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andrew63 Mar 29th 2012 9:38 am

Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 
Anyone done this yet and got the $250 rebate? (end mid-May)
Trying to find a sparkie here that "knows" the new rules that hard wiring is no longer mandatory.

jad n rich Mar 29th 2012 12:40 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by andrew63 (Post 9979330)
Anyone done this yet and got the $250 rebate? (end mid-May)
Trying to find a sparkie here that "knows" the new rules that hard wiring is no longer mandatory.

We switched just before the flippin rebate, however it did drop the power bill by about $50 per 90 days.

Max&Ozzy Mar 29th 2012 4:41 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by andrew63 (Post 9979330)
Anyone done this yet and got the $250 rebate? (end mid-May)
Trying to find a sparkie here that "knows" the new rules that hard wiring is no longer mandatory.

Hi

Yep I did it but from a new pool build so I had the lines put in ready. I'm sure I got $350 back from Ergon?

Anyway, there are two important things to know. Whilst true that the pump doesn't need to be hard wired and can be linked to the tariff by a regular power socket (preferably an all weather one) the actual power line feed will probably have to be a new one and dedicated just to that tariff with its own safety switch in the main fuse box.

andrew63 Mar 29th 2012 6:32 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by Max&Ozzy (Post 9979730)
Hi

Yep I did it but from a new pool build so I had the lines put in ready. I'm sure I got $350 back from Ergon?

Anyway, there are two important things to know. Whilst true that the pump doesn't need to be hard wired and can be linked to the tariff by a regular power socket (preferably an all weather one) the actual power line feed will probably have to be a new one and dedicated just to that tariff with its own safety switch in the main fuse box.

Yes, cheers. Noticed Ergon are $350 and Origin $250! Going to take the 33 feed from the hot water tank as it is next to the pool pump (or should I say, trying to find a Sparkie to do it! First one didn't believe me that the T33 can be an ordinary socket! He wanted to hard wire.)

denzil73 Mar 30th 2012 2:39 am

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 
Can see no reason to hard wire. So long as you have a feed on T33 then you can run whatever you want off it. Sparkies really aren't the quickest of cats ;)

andrew63 Mar 30th 2012 9:41 am

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by denzil73 (Post 9980295)
Can see no reason to hard wire. So long as you have a feed on T33 then you can run whatever you want off it. Sparkies really aren't the quickest of cats ;)

For sure there is no reason at all - but it was law until a few months back - so far I haven't found a sparkie who knows the law has changed (despite the Ergon and Origin web sites talking about hard-wiring is n longer mandatory.

moneypenny20 Apr 2nd 2012 11:00 am

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by andrew63 (Post 9981102)
For sure there is no reason at all - but it was law until a few months back - so far I haven't found a sparkie who knows the law has changed (despite the Ergon and Origin web sites talking about hard-wiring is n longer mandatory.

Can you give me the link on the Origin site please? I've been looking but can't find it.:)

datamile Apr 2nd 2012 4:35 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 
http://www.energex.com.au/residentia...f-33-faq#39967

moneypenny20 Apr 3rd 2012 10:25 am

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by datamile (Post 9986243)

Thank you! :thumbup:

NedKelly Apr 3rd 2012 9:44 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 
This all sounds very interesting but my chlorinator has a built in time switch so if we connect it to a Tariff 33 outlet the time switch will keep losing time.

PaulandNic Apr 4th 2012 7:21 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9988592)
This all sounds very interesting but my chlorinator has a built in time switch so if we connect it to a Tariff 33 outlet the time switch will keep losing time.

:popcorn:

andrew63 Apr 4th 2012 9:18 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9988592)
This all sounds very interesting but my chlorinator has a built in time switch so if we connect it to a Tariff 33 outlet the time switch will keep losing time.

Easy to get around that.
Under the new regs - you have a simple plug
So you buy a timer plug! Not the $7.99 clunky ones but the $25 ones that are digital 7-day timers that INCLUDE a re-chargeable battery back up.
Quest for a knoweldgeable sparkie continues.....

NedKelly Apr 4th 2012 9:30 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 
Can I connect it to the envirocycle plant as well?

andrew63 Apr 4th 2012 10:54 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by NedKelly (Post 9990263)
Can I connect it to the envirocycle plant as well?

See FAQ 8th and 7th from the bottom - http://www.energex.com.au/residentia...f-33-faq#40037
You are "not allowed" but it's not illegal! They will never know!
Similarly, you are "not allowed" to plug in your washing machine or tumble drier onto this tariff.
The only thing to be wary of is the amount of amps on that circuit. Typically, it will be a 15 amp circuit so whatever you plug in shouldn't exceed 15 amps in total. Any one know how many amps a typical pool pump is? Spa pump? Tumble drier?

NedKelly Apr 5th 2012 1:50 pm

Re: Pool & Spa to Tariff 33
 

Originally Posted by andrew63 (Post 9979799)
Yes, cheers. Noticed Ergon are $350 and Origin $250! Going to take the 33 feed from the hot water tank as it is next to the pool pump (or should I say, trying to find a Sparkie to do it! First one didn't believe me that the T33 can be an ordinary socket! He wanted to hard wire.)

Do you have a link to the Origin rebate, I can't find it.


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