Are Poms, British or English?
Aug 28th 2004, 3:09 pm
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Are Poms, British or English?
I was born in Manchester and im white but I never acknowledge that Im English. I feel and am proudly British, so why all the hype and nonsense about 'we are all english'?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Aug 28th 2004, 3:13 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by Lathlain
I was born in Manchester and im white but I never acknowledge that Im English. I feel and am proudly British, so why all the hype and nonsense about 'we are all english'?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Traditionally i think poms are english.
Aug 28th 2004, 3:23 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by Lathlain
I was born in Manchester and im white but I never acknowledge that Im English. I feel and am proudly British, so why all the hype and nonsense about 'we are all english'?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/pommy.htm
Aug 28th 2004, 3:48 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by Lathlain
I was born in Manchester and im white but I never acknowledge that Im English. I feel and am proudly British, so why all the hype and nonsense about 'we are all english'?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
It annoys me also when people refer to the whole of the UK as "England'.
So are poms Brits or Anglos? Same thing?
English is what I am, they can never water that down or take it away from me.
Keel
Aug 28th 2004, 3:56 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by keel
I used to be proud to be British but now realise that British is now just something the government puts on the passport which they give to all and sundry (wherever they originate).
English is what I am, they can never water that down or take it away from me.
Keel
English is what I am, they can never water that down or take it away from me.
Keel
well i am Scottish but still proud to be British.
Aug 28th 2004, 4:04 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by madsad
well i am Scottish but still proud to be British.
Plus those from the Overseas Territories - Gibraltarians, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc.
And in response to someone else - yes, British is an open nationality like American and Australian, and has absorbed many different groups of people over the centuries.
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Aug 28th 2004, 4:07 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by JAJ
'British' encompassess a lot more than just the English. Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish, Manx and Channel Islanders who are all part of the British <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=family&v=55">family</a>.
Plus those from the Overseas Territories - Gibraltarians, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc.
And in response to someone else - yes, British is an open nationality like American and Australian, and has absorbed many different groups of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> over the centuries.
Jeremy
Plus those from the Overseas Territories - Gibraltarians, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc.
And in response to someone else - yes, British is an open nationality like American and Australian, and has absorbed many different groups of <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=people&v=55">people</a> over the centuries.
Jeremy
Aug 28th 2004, 4:15 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by JAJ
'British' encompassess a lot more than just the English. Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish, Manx and Channel Islanders who are all part of the British family.
Plus those from the Overseas Territories - Gibraltarians, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc.
And in response to someone else - yes, British is an open nationality like American and Australian, and has absorbed many different groups of people over the centuries.
Jeremy
Plus those from the Overseas Territories - Gibraltarians, Falkland Islanders, Bermudians etc.
And in response to someone else - yes, British is an open nationality like American and Australian, and has absorbed many different groups of people over the centuries.
Jeremy
an open nationality? please explain?
Aug 28th 2004, 4:16 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
[QUOTE=Lathlain]
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
QUOTE]
ha ha ha ha oh that just made me laugh. aye right u gave up what??????
anyway. poms are both, we were all prisoners once and thats where it comes from.
soapy
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
QUOTE]
ha ha ha ha oh that just made me laugh. aye right u gave up what??????
anyway. poms are both, we were all prisoners once and thats where it comes from.
soapy
Aug 28th 2004, 4:26 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
[QUOTE=soapy]
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
QUOTE]
ha ha ha ha oh that just made me laugh. aye right u gave up what??????
anyway. poms are both, we were all prisoners once and thats where it comes from.
soapy
awright soapy, had two lovely rolls & square this morning, top banana.
Originally Posted by Lathlain
Wasnt England an ancient nation, but gave up its sovereignty when the Union was created?
QUOTE]
ha ha ha ha oh that just made me laugh. aye right u gave up what??????
anyway. poms are both, we were all prisoners once and thats where it comes from.
soapy
awright soapy, had two lovely rolls & square this morning, top banana.
Aug 28th 2004, 4:33 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by madsad
an open nationality? please explain?
Or children born in the UK are British even though the parents are not (although since 1983 at least one parent does have to be a permanent resident of the UK).
Some other nationalities (eg Swiss, Japanese, German) are ethnically based and are much harder to acquire if not born with it, although it's not impossible. And birth in the country usually makes no difference, although the Germans have relaxed their naturalisation processes and the situation for children born in Germany to foreign residents as part of a reform program in 1999/2000.
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Aug 28th 2004, 4:42 pm
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by JAJ
In other words, it's possible for a non-British person to become British by going through the immigration and naturalision process.
Or children born in the UK are British even though the parents are not (although since 1983 at least one parent does have to be a permanent resident of the UK).
Some other nationalities (eg Swiss, Japanese, German) are ethnically based and are much harder to acquire if not born with it, although it's not impossible. And birth in the country usually makes no difference, although the Germans have relaxed their naturalisation processes and the situation for children born in Germany to foreign residents as part of a reform program in 1999/2000.
Jeremy
Or children born in the UK are British even though the parents are not (although since 1983 at least one parent does have to be a permanent resident of the UK).
Some other nationalities (eg Swiss, Japanese, German) are ethnically based and are much harder to acquire if not born with it, although it's not impossible. And birth in the country usually makes no difference, although the Germans have relaxed their naturalisation processes and the situation for children born in Germany to foreign residents as part of a reform program in 1999/2000.
Jeremy
Aug 29th 2004, 2:18 am
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by madsad
awright soapy, had two lovely rolls & square this morning, top banana.
i think i ate a bit too much though lol
Aug 29th 2004, 2:21 am
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by keel
I used to be proud to be British but now realise that British is now just something the government puts on the passport which they give to all and sundry (wherever they originate).
English is what I am, they can never water that down or take it away from me.
Keel
English is what I am, they can never water that down or take it away from me.
Keel
Aug 29th 2004, 8:42 am
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Re: Are Poms, British or English?
Originally Posted by debbiemc
i was lead to believe by an a friend living in aus ,that the term pom..pome...meant 'prisoner of mother england', anyone else heard that ?
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