JackTheLad

Yeah, I agree, I set myself an impossible task, trying to list IT jobs. Probably didn't do it too well, missed loads of areas. Apologies to sysadmins, sellers, and all the others I missed. I guess you kind work out the area I work in.

When you say Aus its not the place to be for IT... what do you mean for life in general. I know we will get paid less. What are the drawbacks other than that?

Thanks,
JTL

JackTheLad

Sooooo.... If you work in App support, how come there is no vote for Support? What did you vote for?

Cheers,

JTL

Sandra

Forget what you forgot in the poll questions - a very nice start of information!

In My Own Opinion - IMOP! or whatever - IT market is limited in Australia, you are dealing with a country who has 20M - so for IT jobs it is never going to be booming. The industries here for the most part are Aus/NZ centric. Countries and businesses are already using India as a source of cheap labour for the IT industry in terms of techies. So given all this, make sure you are working for a global country industry if career and prospects are important and be prepared to expand your horizons!

If you have a niche talent - use it, keep up knowledge world wide and argue your stand point. Keep looking outward and do not except 'lifestyle' in Aus as your answer.

There are loads of jobs here IT wise that will keep 'our generation' of immigrants - approx 29-45 year olds going but not necessarily on increasing wages in line with what we might like - so what next? Make sure you are choosing to emigrate for you not profession.

All of this is my personal beliefs, I work for an excellent global company and get excellent input and opportunities - I also believe if I wanted to expand my knowledge while working for an Aus centric company opportunity would be limited.

In terms of backing/slagging off up my opinion - does anyone know a world wide company who has its HQ in Aus? Qantas is not accepted!!!

Aus has many riches but in terms of IT leaders and opportunities it is sadly lacking.

I keep stating this is my opinion only - cause no doubt I will get every response to my 'negatives' proving statistically I am wrong - so in terms of my 14 year old, "Whatever"!

Cheers

JackTheLad

Thank you very much for your opinions Sandra. I know you have good experience and I'd love to tap into that (unfortunately I've already sent you a PM which you've just answered with your last post here! If they had a slap your head icon I'd use it)

I do work for an Aussie company, but we've taken the decision not to work them when we move to Oz. Its hard to explain, I love the company, the culture, everything, but no... we won't work for them in Oz

So we're taking the biggest leap of our lives, no safety net, other than our years of IT experience and the money from selling my house

Let me know how its going there,

Cheers,
JTL

Sandra

Take your leap....and enjoy it

This opnion of mine is only about the IT work, the rest of it I will not comment on cause that is so personal to what each and all of us want.

And cause I possibly left that last statement negative - I hate and love this sodding place all at the same time equally, depends what day and what topic we are discussing much like I felt about England!

Cheers

JackTheLad

I can't believe theres no helldesk jobs in Oz. Are people saying they've ALL gone to India.

I don't mind helpdesk. I've been pushed into it since my company knew I was leaving. Its alright. Your brain does atrophy a bit but I keep up to speed on .NET, C# Jave C++ atc. So as a starting point I don't mind the brain numbing stuff

Cheers,
JTL

MarkMyWords

If you're up to speed on all that lot then you're probably a damn sight more employable than us programmers! (Hmm, sorry, can't remember how you classify yourself!)

JackTheLad

Alright....

New rule....

You can't click 'other' unless you tell us what 'other' is.

Or a detailed description of penetrative testing

Cheers,
JTL

wmoore

I chose Support (General) because my job involves many items on the list (and several more ). I work in a public school (that's private school to any Australians reading. Don't ask why, I didn't make it up) and I cover everything from building / configuring / upgrading servers / PCs / laptops, helpdesk, support & training, database / VB / web development, network / server admin, looking after 2 PBXs and infrastructure, internal pager sytem .... anyone asleep yet Now I never said I was any good at any of this but I'm just hoping the ACS think so!

Sandra

So once ACS do the biz and accept your qualifications and you pass them into your 136 application. What and where are you planning next (meaning in Aus?)

I am really interested in the IT applicants and how well they do, we do not seem to hear how well those that come over on IT are currently faring. Renth is one who is doing well, Bondi Pom was a spouse applicant.....have I missed others who entered the big wide world not gone on their own?

Hoping to be disallusioned!?

MikeStanton

World-wide company with HQ in Oz? Given my Oz rose-tinted spectacles vaporised some years ago, it's odd that I'll put in a nomination! But, hey....

If by world-wide you mean a company with significant operations in at least UK, Europe, USA, Canada, South Africa - how about Computershare (HQ'd in Melbourne) ?

Your point is well made. There are very few of these companies - and getting fewer.

The recent move by the originally very-Oz company News Corporation (Sky, The Times, The Australian etc) by Murdoch to stop trading on the Oz stock exchange - is a big thumbs-down for large, international corporates in Oz. And the Oz stock exchange.

Company HQs tend to be situated where the markets and capital are - and that ain't Oz or NZ.

wmoore

All being well, heading for Brisbane. Job-wise, I'm open to offers really. Might do a bit of contracting so as to get about a bit and make contacts, etc. Also for the variety, which is one of the things I enjoy about my current job. Ultimately I think I want to do more development (VB) or web (ASP, PHP, MySQL) but I'm quite flexible (oo-er!)

JackTheLad

National Australia Bank

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Clydesdale Bank

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Yorkshire Bank

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Northern Bank

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National Irish Bank



You knew that was coming Sandra! And the new boss of NAB is a Scot!

Cheers,JTL

Sandra

Right then - taking this as an inside tip! My daughter and I might well swop her 'individual' shares this Saturday. What do NAB trade as on the AUS stock exchange?

Not that I am a high flyer at all, my daughters current school project is to invest $20K and make a profit after 6 months. She is Year 6 here and we are having great fun! She chose to invest 10K in a deposit account paying 5.5% for three months and 6.5% for the remaining three. The other 10K she has in shares which she choose based on what she knew - clothes, shopping centres (Westfield), virgin blue, and some companies she heard her Dad talk about!

If these shares do well - my daughter might well owe you a pint (translated into schooner/midi etc) if you come Sydney way!

Cheers

JackTheLad

As my wifes uncle always says, Scots make the best bankers

and annoyingly its true! Look at HBOS, small scots bank... now one of the biggest in the world. hsbc, citibank, look out!

And this is in no way a recommendation to invest in NAB.

I'm leaving them, so hope that balances everything out.

JTL