SalmanM

Hi, I would add the concerns shown by the host are fairly correct and no need to compare your own case. Of course if anyone gets 175 Visa, he's doing some reasonable job in his country and capable to contirbute Ozzies economy however, it's natural for several ones that they consider the worst case scenario, like what if dont get any job at all especially in recession, do i get any assistance then as there are no ways back. i had the same concerns after getting Ozzies PR and waiting for the right time

romeosd

You said what I wanted to say since the begining of this thread, beside if you are securiing food and housing for 6 months and you are searching for job all that time and you cannot find any opportunity for any reason. Should we be theives, or beg in streets, or return back to our country after loosing all our money we brought it to OZ.

For example, asking about the requierments of being president of OZ doesn't mean I am inteded to be, It is very normal question. And by any how, why to attack others for asking a question like that, it is something no breaking the site rules and it is a Legal benefit from the OZ goverment, so It would be better to send an inquiry to center link asking them why they are doing that and for sure they have answer for that question.

Thanks
Romeosd

aman_sharma2k1

Dear Zenshin,

You got it totally wrong....Every migrant who is going to some other country should know all this...this poster never said he does not want to work or something like this ..but he wants all the knowledge...

I am also AUS PR holder and even I am interested in all the benifits for what I am eliigible..this does not mean that I indent to drain the public funds. Its just that I should have knowledge .. You never know what's there is future..and what will come on the way..so knowledge is must...

May be you were lucky and you worked your butt off and opened a new company..I appreciate that..but All people are no so lucky...They may face some unexpected situations in a country where they have just arrived and they may need help from that country for which they left their home land..

So please don't take it wrong...Poster and even I am also interested in the benfits those we can get when we arrive in the new country..afterall we all gonna contribute to that country's economy and growth...

aman_sharma2k1

I agree with you!!! You never know what's on your way in future.

DownUnderPaddy

Yes. Good point. It should never get to that stage I would hope.

By understanding in advance that a PR visa holder will not get access to any unemployment assistance for a period of 2 years, it puts the onus on the immigrant to research the cost of food and housing and to ensure they have the funds in their bank account to support themselves independently for a worst case scenario of 2 yearys of unemployment.

People should not 'gamble' with their futures by immigrating without having a clear plan for the 'worst case' scenario.

Asking the questions that people are asking here is merely a way for them to do their full research in this regard. Good for them. Better then some who have not bothered to do their 'homework' only to come over to Australia and be completely disillusioned and returne to their country of origin with broken dreams.

Plan for the worst, hope for the best. It's an age old proverb that servers as very good advise.

SalmanM

Very well explained all the concerns of new comers

Thanks Aman

Ajay.Venk

hey Aman i agree with u.

Guys can we get medicare benefits with in initial 2 years in 176 sub class visa?
pls enlighten me?

Thanks,

Ajay

aman_sharma2k1

YEs Ajay...As a PR holder, you are entitled for the medical benifits...ie..Medicare..

Zenshin

Not sure if the laws have changed but we have a family friend who was Indonesian and in order for him to get into Australia with his 6 kids he had to have $500k sitting in a bank account before coming.

Surely if you are going to immigrate to a new country where you don't know if things will work out you should have some substantial savings behind you like at least a years wages and not use it as soon as you land. It would then also give you enough to go back should you feel it was not working out.

I doubt you would call what I have been through in the UK with founding my own company as lucky. Luck does not come into it but sheer determination that I would not fail. We have hit every obstacle imaginable but found ways around it without resorting to public funds. My motto is "If you fail to plan, then you plan to fail!"

Don't rely on social security to back you up but your own funds.

wannabe in oz

well said Zenshin. i myself am self-employed and have been for a few years, if i get sick i don't get sick pay, if i get injured at work, unlucky, if i want to take a holiday, guess what? no holiday pay. i have to plan ahead and keep control of my finances. i've never been on state benefits, is that down to luck or bloody hard work. i also pay an insurance policy every month just incase something serious does happen that will keep my head above water,just. not sure if original poster has moved yet but i just thought it strange to ask how many benefits and how long before they can get them. to me it comes across they will work for 2years then hey ho i need benefits of ever kind please. thankyou. but i might wrong

aman_sharma2k1

Well...What if you land up in a new country and get sick before you could get a job..or something else bad happen to you before you could WELL plan...then what will you do? Offcourse you will have some back money to cover you back..but what if your cannot get out of that bad situation very soon...at that don't you think so it would have been better if you would have searched some information about benefits you could get from govt.? after all if a country is allowing you to come to their country and work, live and benifit their economy...that govt has some liabilites towards you...they cannot just say..ohh..come ...but u are alone..either you PLAN WELL (like you did)..or DIE....

I don't see any fishy thing poster asking for this information..He is (even I am) gonna leave his country behind, his family, his job and going to land up in a country where he does not know anyone and in case of something bad happens to him..he must know what are the possible wayouts to get out of that situation...Poster never said he does not wana work or someting like this..he just asked few question for information..and even me ( I am sure other posters also, who are gonna leave they country behind ) are interested in the posters questions....

So if you don't have answers to his questions, don't tell him not to ask questions..he has all the rights to ask questions and also to get the benifits (whatever govt will provide to him) when he lands in Ozz...

wannabe in oz

i never once told him not to ask questions

theotherphil

The only person responsible for your own welfare is yourself! The government should stay out of healthcare etc and stick to law and order and the military.

If you want healthcare, get insurance or pay for it...the same as any other service. If you want a payout if you lose your job, purchase unemployment insurance. If you want kids, ensure you have the money to support them or practice safe sex. The individual should be soley responsible for themselves. Those who put the effort in will get the rewards. Those who want to bum around can do....but a bum they will remain. As has been said, fail to plan then plan to fail.

Why should I take my hard earned cash, cash that I have worked hard for for the benefit of my family, to pay for somebody elses misfortune/ laziness?

I've moved to Aus and have no intention of using the benefits scheme. I plan ahead for the unforseen circumstances to ensure I have enough for my family in times of trouble. It'd be nice nice not to have to pay to ensure everybody else's as well. Socialism sucks.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Just to add my bit....

I'm a Brit, on PR, working full time and earning over $100k... and I claim every possible cent I can. Why?, because I would be a bloody fool not to.

I pay a packet in tax and if the government feel that I should be getting some of that back in benefits because I have kids and my wife doesn't work then I would be stupid not to claim them.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Given that you list your profession as a paramedic, that's an incredibly stupid point of view to have. What about people who can't pay?. When you rush to their aid are you going to start checking peoples insurance and if they don't have enough just kick them back into the gutter?.