Playing ping-pong
Jan 24th 2019, 1:00 pm
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Re: Playing ping-pong
Some great answers, thanks, and some nonsense too. This place doesn't change much, does it?
We left to give our daughter the opportunity to know her grand parents and to have some family support. We found we didn't get the family support we expected and ended up with only 1 out of 4 grandparents alive and in the UK, we don't have any reason to stay. There were some other things that fed into the decision but those things have changed now.
This is definitely something we are worried about but I think the UK has become increasingly xenophobic while we have been away and we just don't like the lifestyle.
I work in IT, delivering organisational change and digital transformation projects. It would be good if we got back to Perth during the construction phase, as this is always a good time for project professionals.
We would end up a reasonable distance from the CBD, given our budget and desire for a decent size house, close to the beach and easily commutable to the city where all he work is. Current thought is safety bay/rocko/warnbro, given the prices, beach and close to down south. We also have friends down south, so would be fairly well set up.
We left to give our daughter the opportunity to know her grand parents and to have some family support. We found we didn't get the family support we expected and ended up with only 1 out of 4 grandparents alive and in the UK, we don't have any reason to stay. There were some other things that fed into the decision but those things have changed now.
This is definitely something we are worried about but I think the UK has become increasingly xenophobic while we have been away and we just don't like the lifestyle.
I work in IT, delivering organisational change and digital transformation projects. It would be good if we got back to Perth during the construction phase, as this is always a good time for project professionals.
We would end up a reasonable distance from the CBD, given our budget and desire for a decent size house, close to the beach and easily commutable to the city where all he work is. Current thought is safety bay/rocko/warnbro, given the prices, beach and close to down south. We also have friends down south, so would be fairly well set up.
We lived south of the river not so far from the city we would not consider the areas you mentioned (unless it's for money/budget reasons), I know that's down to personal taste and preferences and no offence to anyone who lives in those areas, also after living back in the UK those areas just would not suit us. I would check you can gain good employment as by accounts from friends in WA it can be an expensive place to live. Good luck with everything.
Jan 25th 2019, 9:22 am
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Re: Playing ping-pong
Some great answers, thanks, and some nonsense too. This place doesn't change much, does it?
I work in IT, delivering organisational change and digital transformation projects. It would be good if we got back to Perth during the construction phase, as this is always a good time for project professionals.
I work in IT, delivering organisational change and digital transformation projects. It would be good if we got back to Perth during the construction phase, as this is always a good time for project professionals.
The good thing with IT is that even in a downturn or slump there is always plenty of IT work in Perth. Honestly a lot of the time tey are just grateful to find people who actually turn up for work everyday and don't call in sick all the time.
The moneys certainly better than the UK.
The one frustration though I found, while working in local government, was the inability to get projects delivered and the sheer slowness of everything. When you have people crying out for change to help them with their daily work but you're hamstrung by slow management who cannot make a decision it gets very frustrating. The last seven or so projects I have worked on in Perth have all been abandoned mid project due to management changing their minds. It gets very frustrating at the sheer level of disorganised chaos that goes on.
Although frustrating, when you have spent six months or a year working on something just ot see it dropped, you have to learn to be cool with it, to relax and accept thats just how they do things here.
Jan 29th 2019, 12:19 pm
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Re: Playing ping-pong
The last thing WA wants is another mining 'boom'. It inflates the economy and raises prices in most other sectors, even those with nothing to do with mining. The WA economy at the moment is not in good shape. Saying that the loss of population has slowed and migration has increased, but well down on boom time levels in 2012 and 13.(rentals have declined a bit but still plenty around) Qatar Airlines recently cancelled flights out of Perth and the Dubai flagged airline is reducing its daily two services from two to one. Folk not spending anything like before. Good thing more deals about.
What we need is some stability to our economy, which doesn't appear to be on the horizon.
What we need is some stability to our economy, which doesn't appear to be on the horizon.
Qatar still has a daily A380 flight. EK has suspended (not cut) their daily B777-LR flight - and a daily A380 flight to SYD. Overall incoming international PAX numbers into PER have increased slightly, so this shows us that PAX are using airlines other than EK. Tim Clark said last year that the new daily QF PER-LHR B787 flight would have a negative effect on PAX numbers between the ME and PER. This flight is proving to be a runaway success for QF. ANA are starting a daily B787 service PER-NRT in September
Resource construction activity is ramping up - and will continue to do so for a few more years yet. Everyone in Australia (apart of course from the obvious few loser/jokers who will never get ahead - aka life's victims) will be a winner
House prices I don't give a shit about - they are what they are and the average punter has no control over them
Hope this helps
Jan 29th 2019, 9:51 pm
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Re: Playing ping-pong
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Qatar still has a daily A380 flight. EK has suspended (not cut) their daily B777-LR flight - and a daily A380 flight to SYD. Overall incoming international PAX numbers into PER have increased slightly, so this shows us that PAX are using airlines other than EK. Tim Clark said last year that the new daily QF PER-LHR B787 flight would have a negative effect on PAX numbers between the ME and PER. This flight is proving to be a runaway success for QF. ANA are starting a daily B787 service PER-NRT in September
Resource construction activity is ramping up - and will continue to do so for a few more years yet. Everyone in Australia (apart of course from the obvious few loser/jokers who will never get ahead - aka life's victims) will be a winner
House prices I don't give a shit about - they are what they are and the average punter has no control over them
Hope this helps
Qatar still has a daily A380 flight. EK has suspended (not cut) their daily B777-LR flight - and a daily A380 flight to SYD. Overall incoming international PAX numbers into PER have increased slightly, so this shows us that PAX are using airlines other than EK. Tim Clark said last year that the new daily QF PER-LHR B787 flight would have a negative effect on PAX numbers between the ME and PER. This flight is proving to be a runaway success for QF. ANA are starting a daily B787 service PER-NRT in September
Resource construction activity is ramping up - and will continue to do so for a few more years yet. Everyone in Australia (apart of course from the obvious few loser/jokers who will never get ahead - aka life's victims) will be a winner
House prices I don't give a shit about - they are what they are and the average punter has no control over them
Hope this helps
While you may not give a 'shit' about house prices, it remains a major drain on personal income resources in the nation and yes as is happening presently, punters can have an influence by not partaking in it, resulting in falling prices. Without government interference, market forces would long ago have 'corrected' inflated values.
Jan 30th 2019, 8:51 am
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Perth city is located on the Swan River and overlooks the vast expanse of the Indian Ocean, so water is the heart and soul of this city.
Pros:
Cons:
Pros:
- The weather is great
- The airport’s easy to get to
- It’s surrounded by awesome beaches
- The scenery is beautiful
Cons:
- It’s expensive
- It’s one of the most isolated cities in the world
I lived in Perth, I didn't feel isolated. Isolated from what anyway?
Jan 30th 2019, 10:46 am
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The isolation of Perth, does help create a specific mindset. Probably less noticeable today than a generation ago, thanks to increased diversity within the ever growing population. But it still remains and reflected for example in areas of profession. Perth is still small in many ways, people too often will know or know off a person in a work related area, at least in my experience, which can prove beneficial or indeed contrary. Never found this to such an extent previously, but likely depends what one does I suppose.
Isolation can induce a Perth centric attitude at the expense of new ideas, if an over keenness on conformity is insisted upon, which remains, but not perhaps to the degree once experienced as well.
Being isolated can create on the other hand allow some home grown creation , where Perth has produced some good bands and a definite signs that Perth is increasingly opening to the world are not hard to find.
Isolation can induce a Perth centric attitude at the expense of new ideas, if an over keenness on conformity is insisted upon, which remains, but not perhaps to the degree once experienced as well.
Being isolated can create on the other hand allow some home grown creation , where Perth has produced some good bands and a definite signs that Perth is increasingly opening to the world are not hard to find.
Jan 31st 2019, 4:30 am
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Etihad will cease flights out of Perth. (not Qatar) Resource construction will unlikely be the big employment factor it was last 'boom' . No not everybody is a winner, far from it. The previous 'boom' raised prices to such an extent that a minority profited. Post boom we are left with inflated prices and stagnant income.
While you may not give a 'shit' about house prices, it remains a major drain on personal income resources in the nation and yes as is happening presently, punters can have an influence by not partaking in it, resulting in falling prices. Without government interference, market forces would long ago have 'corrected' inflated values.
While you may not give a 'shit' about house prices, it remains a major drain on personal income resources in the nation and yes as is happening presently, punters can have an influence by not partaking in it, resulting in falling prices. Without government interference, market forces would long ago have 'corrected' inflated values.
More winners than losers. There are always losers - some are basically just life's losers. Mining has been of such a massive benefit to Australia, you'd have to basically be a retard not to see it. It's all good
I rarely discuss house prices as it is pointless, none of us have any control over them and, like you, don't know what they are going to do. I'm annoyed with myself for getting involved. This is the last I will post on the topic
Jan 31st 2019, 10:29 pm
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More winners than losers. There are always losers - some are basically just life's losers. Mining has been of such a massive benefit to Australia, you'd have to basically be a retard not to see it. It's all good
I rarely discuss house prices as it is pointless, none of us have any control over them and, like you, don't know what they are going to do. I'm annoyed with myself for getting involved. This is the last I will post on the topic
I rarely discuss house prices as it is pointless, none of us have any control over them and, like you, don't know what they are going to do. I'm annoyed with myself for getting involved. This is the last I will post on the topic
Mining has made segments rich, certainly provided foreign share holders fat returns, sadly contributed to bringing down a government, as well, when they attempted to get a fairer share of the royalties. Not all good by a country mile.
AS for housing, one hardly needs to be an economist , just a reflective nature to understand the bind the housing market has got the nation into. .
Feb 1st 2019, 10:43 am
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You appear very happy to use terms such as losers. We are not, or shouldn't be at least living in a casino. where winners and losers will be found. The system is of course set up in such a way though that it can indeed be hard to determine it is not run along the lines of some giant casino.
Mining has made segments rich, certainly provided foreign share holders fat returns, sadly contributed to bringing down a government, as well, when they attempted to get a fairer share of the royalties. Not all good by a country mile.
AS for housing, one hardly needs to be an economist , just a reflective nature to understand the bind the housing market has got the nation into. .
Mining has made segments rich, certainly provided foreign share holders fat returns, sadly contributed to bringing down a government, as well, when they attempted to get a fairer share of the royalties. Not all good by a country mile.
AS for housing, one hardly needs to be an economist , just a reflective nature to understand the bind the housing market has got the nation into. .
Feb 1st 2019, 4:11 pm
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Have to agree, WA might be larger than some European countries but I personally felt enclosed....by the sameness of everything....it may have changed after the years I have been away, I know it's my own personnel preference and each to their own but the reality it's a long and expensive way from another city and other countries.....that's a fact.
Feb 1st 2019, 6:22 pm
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Just noticed this. My experience of Perth was limited to one year, in Claremont, in 1971. I used to buy "The Financial Review" and "The Australian" at the local newsagent every morning. One time they weren't there, and the agent said apologetically, "Sorry, but the overseas papers aren't in yet". Was he winding me up, or not? I'll never know...!
Feb 2nd 2019, 11:37 am
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It is just down to preference. I didn't feel isolated in Perth and others do. It purely depends on what you feel isolated from, thus I genuinely asked the question 'isolated from what'. I personally loved the white sand beaches, wide open spaces, wineries further down the State, Albany, walking around Kings Park, cycling along the coast, lovely cafes/restaurants on the beach, rollerblading around the Swan, taking my friend's kids to the great playparks, seeing movies under the stars, pre-dawn boat ride to see the penguins, day trips to Rotto, camping in Margaret River etc. etc. If I lived in a barren desert somewhere I would feel isolated from the things I mentioned above. But I didn't feel isolated as I was doing many of the things I loved in Perth.
Feb 2nd 2019, 12:19 pm
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It is just down to preference. I didn't feel isolated in Perth and others do. It purely depends on what you feel isolated from, thus I genuinely asked the question 'isolated from what'. I personally loved the white sand beaches, wide open spaces, wineries further down the State, Albany, walking around Kings Park, cycling along the coast, lovely cafes/restaurants on the beach, rollerblading around the Swan, taking my friend's kids to the great playparks, seeing movies under the stars, pre-dawn boat ride to see the penguins, day trips to Rotto, camping in Margaret River etc. etc. If I lived in a barren desert somewhere I would feel isolated from the things I mentioned above. But I didn't feel isolated as I was doing many of the things I loved in Perth.
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Feb 2nd 2019, 12:37 pm
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