Perth its going to be 😊
Jan 10th 2016, 8:06 am
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Re: Perth its going to be 😊
As for Sydney, cannot ever see a reason to live there (and I have lived there before). Take away the Opera House and the Sydney Harbour Bridge and Sydney would be even less known in the world than Melbourne...
Heck, without those two architectural wonders I'd take Auckland over Sydney any day as far as the city centre is concerned.
Also, Brisbane has come a long way so I'd easily take 2016 Brisbane over today's Sydney.
Heck, without those two architectural wonders I'd take Auckland over Sydney any day as far as the city centre is concerned.
Also, Brisbane has come a long way so I'd easily take 2016 Brisbane over today's Sydney.
Jan 10th 2016, 8:12 am
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Jan 10th 2016, 10:33 am
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Re: Perth its going to be 😊
Ah I see. Yeah Long Reef is a different kettle of fish than Collaroy, nice views from the hill. I'm a rubbish golfer but have played at Long Reef a few times. As a golfer, I make a decent surfer
When we were looking for properties, loads of R/E places would say that a property was in Narrabeen but more often than not it was in Collaroy, especially Clarke St.
I'm getting nostalgic now
Jan 10th 2016, 10:49 am
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Re: Perth its going to be 😊
everything is rising in price at a horrific rate, etc - I won't go on, you can read them in the individual posts.
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Australia has changed and its no longer the country most of us moved to, or the one pictured on TV and talked about in the UK. If you want to see how its changed, go back through the BE posts from 5-6-7 years ago and you'll see a different world!
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Australia has changed and its no longer the country most of us moved to, or the one pictured on TV and talked about in the UK. If you want to see how its changed, go back through the BE posts from 5-6-7 years ago and you'll see a different world!
As for Australia changing, I think that is true of most of the world. I prefer the US in the 90's to today, and the UK is a shadow of what I remember in the early 2000's due to the global financial crisis, students getting stripped of their "free money", etc. Seems like there is much less money going around and young people have gotten the wrong end of the stick with the govt's student cuts. Overall though the country has braced itself and tackled the crisis better than many other European countries from Spain to Hungary.
What hurts the most is that when the UK was implementing harsh austerity and whacking students with it (not that I'm against curbing spending), Germany was going the other way and making studies free, giving bonuses to students, enticing youngsters from as far away as the US or Australia to come over for a free (yes - free for foreigners even!) education, etc.
Jan 10th 2016, 12:21 pm
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Years ago professional people seemed to agonise whilst the bricklayers and tradies shrugged. A mining boom ends and all of a sudden it seems that the established professionals seem to be shrugging....crazy in some ways..
Jan 10th 2016, 12:30 pm
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So something like this then.
http://www.domain.com.au/13-palara-p...-10281114?sp=3
Nice pad. Nice Area. Personally I think the Northern Beaches are a bit overrated. If it didn't take so long to get to and from the city then the Northern Beaches is doable.
Sounds to me like your living situation is at completely different levels now. By you glowing assessment of life in Collaroy it sounds you might be sacrificing a bit of what you had in order to live mortgage free in Hertfordshire in what I assume was a previously owned house? Would it be fair to say that if you had bought a house in Collaroy 15-20 years ago and had paid down the mortgage like the one in Hertfordshire then you might see housing in Sydney in a different light? I'm sure if I was to start fresh today in Hertfordshire I might have it a little bit easier when it comes to housing than I would in Collaroy, but Hertfordshire is hardly Collaroy on the "best places in the world to live" list. On the other hand if I was to start in London I can pretty much guarantee I'd be light years away to purchasing a property in a decent area.
Also you should take into account that Australia has negative gearing and the UK doesn't, meaning renting can be so much cheaper in Oz, with regard to the rent vs mortgage scale.
Also again, the UK has commuter belts. Australia doesn't really. So you can live relatively cheaply outside cities in the UK and still commute in to the big smoke.
For a lot of people, you and me included, living by the beach in Sydney is worth every penny and we just have to accept that sometimes a good life comes with some sacrifices - like being mortgage free let someone else take up that burden of paying all that wasted bank interest
http://www.domain.com.au/13-palara-p...-10281114?sp=3
Nice pad. Nice Area. Personally I think the Northern Beaches are a bit overrated. If it didn't take so long to get to and from the city then the Northern Beaches is doable.
Sounds to me like your living situation is at completely different levels now. By you glowing assessment of life in Collaroy it sounds you might be sacrificing a bit of what you had in order to live mortgage free in Hertfordshire in what I assume was a previously owned house? Would it be fair to say that if you had bought a house in Collaroy 15-20 years ago and had paid down the mortgage like the one in Hertfordshire then you might see housing in Sydney in a different light? I'm sure if I was to start fresh today in Hertfordshire I might have it a little bit easier when it comes to housing than I would in Collaroy, but Hertfordshire is hardly Collaroy on the "best places in the world to live" list. On the other hand if I was to start in London I can pretty much guarantee I'd be light years away to purchasing a property in a decent area.
Also you should take into account that Australia has negative gearing and the UK doesn't, meaning renting can be so much cheaper in Oz, with regard to the rent vs mortgage scale.
Also again, the UK has commuter belts. Australia doesn't really. So you can live relatively cheaply outside cities in the UK and still commute in to the big smoke.
For a lot of people, you and me included, living by the beach in Sydney is worth every penny and we just have to accept that sometimes a good life comes with some sacrifices - like being mortgage free
let someone else take up that burden of paying all that wasted bank interest
Jan 10th 2016, 6:58 pm
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It should also be noted that commuter belters in the UK get whacked with massive yearly ticket costs. There's 3000 pounds you can't put into the mortgage.
Jan 11th 2016, 12:16 am
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Take away the opera house and bridge and there's nothing special about the place - in fact the first two words that come to mind when I think of Sydney are "dirty" and "old." 95% of the place needs to establish close and personal relations with a bulldozer.
Downtown is over-touristy so no good places for actual residents to go to, just $8/schooner tourist traps. The suburbs are all lousy. The climate sucks too compared to the Gold Coast.
As I said, I'd live there if I had to work there, but I would never move there if I could choose where to live in all of Australia. Not a chance.
Jan 11th 2016, 3:56 am
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You don’t rate Sydney Harbour, Middle Harbour, Pittwater, Lane Cove River, Parramatta River, Port Hacking, the 40-odd surf beaches, the multitude of harbour beaches and National Parks all of which are within a few kilometres of the CBD then?
Jan 11th 2016, 6:17 am
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And just to show it's all horses for courses, you couldn't drag me to live in the Gold Coast.
We are in two minds about whether to end up in Sydney or Adelaide mind you.... having lived in and liking both.
Jan 11th 2016, 6:31 am
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Fair enough if you live in Sydney because you work there, but other than that why would you want to?
Take away the opera house and bridge and there's nothing special about the place - in fact the first two words that come to mind when I think of Sydney are "dirty" and "old." 95% of the place needs to establish close and personal relations with a bulldozer.
Downtown is over-touristy so no good places for actual residents to go to, just $8/schooner tourist traps. The suburbs are all lousy. The climate sucks too compared to the Gold Coast.
As I said, I'd live there if I had to work there, but I would never move there if I could choose where to live in all of Australia. Not a chance.
Take away the opera house and bridge and there's nothing special about the place - in fact the first two words that come to mind when I think of Sydney are "dirty" and "old." 95% of the place needs to establish close and personal relations with a bulldozer.
Downtown is over-touristy so no good places for actual residents to go to, just $8/schooner tourist traps. The suburbs are all lousy. The climate sucks too compared to the Gold Coast.
As I said, I'd live there if I had to work there, but I would never move there if I could choose where to live in all of Australia. Not a chance.
I think you are just justifying your existence on the Gold Coast here. You know that tourist trap for bogans. I remember a time when you used to talk up Cronulla like it was gods country. I think you are just trying to make your decision look good.
How we doing on the Auckland thing?
Jan 11th 2016, 8:35 am
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I don't disagree with your opinion of Sydney ( although P'matta River is a stretch) but I surfed competitively for over 20 years all over NSW and beyond and I can only get to 26 surf beaches in Sydney, using Palmy and and Cronulla as boundaries and that includes counting Cabbage Patch, Freshy and Little Narra as separate breaks.
Jan 11th 2016, 10:25 am
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I don't disagree with your opinion of Sydney ( although P'matta River is a stretch) but I surfed competitively for over 20 years all over NSW and beyond and I can only get to 26 surf beaches in Sydney, using Palmy and and Cronulla as boundaries and that includes counting Cabbage Patch, Freshy and Little Narra as separate breaks.
1. Palm
2. Whale
3. Avalon
4. Bilgola
5. Newport
6. Bungan
7. Mona Vale
8. Warriewood
9. Turrimetta
10. North Narrabeen
11. Narrabeen
12. South Narrabeen
13. Collaroy
14. Long Reef
15. Dee Why
16. North Curl Curl
17. South Curl Curl
18. Freshwater
19. Queenscliff
20. North Steyne
21. South Steyne
22. Fairy Bower
23. Shelly
24. Bondi
25. Tamarama
26. Bronte
27. Clovelly
28. Gordons
29. Coogee
30. Maroubra
31. Malabar
32. Little Bay
33. Greenhills
34. Boatharbour
35. Wanda
36. Elouera
37. North Cronulla
38. South Cronulla
39. Shelly Beach
40. Oak Park
Jan 11th 2016, 10:38 am
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Admittedly a couple of these can't really be called surf beaches - I think Gordon's Bay and Oak Park are stretching it and there does seem to be rather a lot of Narrabeens - but here's the list of 40 that I was working from:
1. Palm
2. Whale
3. Avalon
4. Bilgola
5. Newport
6. Bungan
7. Mona Vale
8. Warriewood
9. Turrimetta
10. North Narrabeen
11. Narrabeen
12. South Narrabeen
13. Collaroy
14. Long Reef
15. Dee Why
16. North Curl Curl
17. South Curl Curl
18. Freshwater
19. Queenscliff
20. North Steyne
21. South Steyne
22. Fairy Bower
23. Shelly
24. Bondi
25. Tamarama
26. Bronte
27. Clovelly
28. Gordons
29. Coogee
30. Maroubra
31. Malabar
32. Little Bay
33. Greenhills
34. Boatharbour
35. Wanda
36. Elouera
37. North Cronulla
38. South Cronulla
39. Shelly Beach
40. Oak Park
1. Palm
2. Whale
3. Avalon
4. Bilgola
5. Newport
6. Bungan
7. Mona Vale
8. Warriewood
9. Turrimetta
10. North Narrabeen
11. Narrabeen
12. South Narrabeen
13. Collaroy
14. Long Reef
15. Dee Why
16. North Curl Curl
17. South Curl Curl
18. Freshwater
19. Queenscliff
20. North Steyne
21. South Steyne
22. Fairy Bower
23. Shelly
24. Bondi
25. Tamarama
26. Bronte
27. Clovelly
28. Gordons
29. Coogee
30. Maroubra
31. Malabar
32. Little Bay
33. Greenhills
34. Boatharbour
35. Wanda
36. Elouera
37. North Cronulla
38. South Cronulla
39. Shelly Beach
40. Oak Park
Sydney - City and Suburbs: Cronulla, Oak Park
What about the harbour beaches like Balmoral and Neilson Park
Jan 11th 2016, 11:10 am
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