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Old Jul 23rd 2011, 1:19 am
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Yes, if it's easy here it's easier there, if it's bad here it's worse there.
I'm guessing you're replying to me, seeing as you refuse to use the quote system?

Like I said champster, I dunno if it is easier here, but it's very easy over there.

Believe what you want to believe - that's your indaba, not mine.
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Originally Posted by papilon
Sounds like a very good idea to me, They can recruit from all over the EU, so a very large pool of very qualified people to choose from. You often talk of the incredibly high salaries being offered in Perth, so this also makes sense to move to an area with a cheaper cost base. If they do it right they could do very well out of it.
Maybe, who knows. Like I said earlier, I don't think it's a good idea as outsourcing of engineering design has never gone well - wherever it is done.
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If I didn't know better....I would suggest this is simply another 'uber' transparent dig at the UK and it's economy
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If I didn't know better....I would suggest this is simply another 'uber' transparent dig at the UK and it's economy
If you are 'uber' sensitive, like you are, about anything to do with the UK then it is. For everyone else, the thread is for information and debate only.
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If you are 'uber' sensitive, like you are, about anything to do with the UK then it is. For everyone else, the thread is for information and debate only.
From someone as 'uber' hostile to the UK and 'poms' as you are, then it is pretty obvious what it is about.
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From someone as 'uber' hostile to the UK and 'poms' as you are, then it is pretty obvious what it is about.
I like the UK G, it's an okay place, but for me offers an average lifestyle.

I like Brits, but have no time for whinging Poms.

Everything you need to know about me and this topic is in those 2 sentences.

This thread was for info and debate only but think whatever you want to think, a shit is not being given.
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Surely not ?

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If I didn't know better....I would suggest this is simply another 'uber' transparent dig at the UK and it's economy
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Default Re: Perth company looking to open up an office in the UK

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Just bumped into an ex-colleague who is now quite senior at Calibre Projects, which is a Perth-based mining EPCM company. They are looking into opening a design office in the UK, probably in the Reading/Thames Valley area, as engineers and designers are cheap as chips over there compared to Australia, and plenty available (unlike Perth). Also easier and cheaper to close up and sack if/when exchange rate goes back the other way or work dries up.

Probably not a good idea overall, as major design outsourcing always ends in tears - no matter where it is done. Skill shortage is really hurting engineering in Perth though.
Welcome to the world of IT.

Ability of the people employed will be secondary to the fact that the company can save a packet by employing overseas. Current exchange conditions and the availability of skilled staff, makes the UK a very sensible place to be employing professionals.

If engineers in Perth, are being paid anything like the rates being bandied about, then companies with any sort of global footprint, would be bloody stupid to keep employing staff there.
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Default Re: Perth company looking to open up an office in the UK

Originally Posted by Amazulu
Just bumped into an ex-colleague who is now quite senior at Calibre Projects, which is a Perth-based mining EPCM company. They are looking into opening a design office in the UK, probably in the Reading/Thames Valley area, as engineers and designers are cheap as chips over there compared to Australia, and plenty available (unlike Perth). Also easier and cheaper to close up and sack if/when exchange rate goes back the other way or work dries up.

Probably not a good idea overall, as major design outsourcing always ends in tears - no matter where it is done. Skill shortage is really hurting engineering in Perth though.
Surely it would be cheaper just to sponsor engineers to come out to Perth?
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Originally Posted by aussietobe
Surely it would be cheaper just to sponsor engineers to come out to Perth?
...and pay them four times as much?
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We will just start seeing what we have seen with most other industries here, it will be moved offshore. As you say it makes no sense to pay silly money here.

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Welcome to the world of IT.

Ability of the people employed will be secondary to the fact that the company can save a packet by employing overseas. Current exchange conditions and the availability of skilled staff, makes the UK a very sensible place to be employing professionals.

If engineers in Perth, are being paid anything like the rates being bandied about, then companies with any sort of global footprint, would be bloody stupid to keep employing staff there.
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...and pay them four times as much?
Currently an Offshore Structural Designer (can't comment on Engineers as I don't know) could earn roughly 50 GBP an hour in London. Here in Perth the going rate would be roughly mid 90 Australian Dollars. Not much in it really.
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Wow ..... so let me get this straight, .... for all Perth has to offer, big wages, great beaches, fabulous lifestyle, there are no no takers?! WOT!

LOL, perhaps Perth has priced itself out along with almost every other industry here.

Time you got with the program Amazulu and realised what is REALLY GOING on in Perth and Australia.
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Default Re: Perth company looking to open up an office in the UK

Originally Posted by Grayling
From someone as 'uber' hostile to the UK and 'poms' as you are, then it is pretty obvious what it is about.
Simple economics? This has been going on for a long time now, Gorgon & Browse LNG rigs are being designed in London, Pluto had a lot of it's design done in Reading, there's a huge skills base there with a competative wage structure. It's nothing sinister other than what has been going on in other parts of the world for years, just now the pound has made the UK an attractive place to outsource for certain industries. It can only be of a benefit to the UK, so your comment is really quite odd.
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