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charliecapaldi1 Jun 7th 2019 7:16 am
Perth - accommodation
 
Hello,

Does anyone know where would be a good starting point in Perth to live?

Pollyana Jun 7th 2019 12:11 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12694943)
Hello,

Does anyone know where would be a good starting point in Perth to live?
Definitely more info required - where will you be working, is it just you or a family, do you need schools etc, do you want to be near a beach, etc etc

charliecapaldi1 Jun 7th 2019 1:18 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Hello,
Its great to charmer, I’m going my friend there as both working in holiday, however there is a lot to do!!!!

ideally like to find somewhere cheap till I manage to bail down s job (hopefully) 🙏

Or as there’s to we will have enough more to cover us for 2-3 months.

So in summary somewhere close to industry and transport links were possible!

Thank you :)

spouse of scouse Jun 7th 2019 1:26 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12695082)
Hello,
Its great to charmer, I’m going my friend there as both working in holiday, however there is a lot to do!!!!

ideally like to find somewhere cheap till I manage to bail down s job (hopefully) 🙏

Or as there’s to we will have enough more to cover us for 2-3 months.

So in summary somewhere close to industry and transport links were possible!

Thank you :)

I'm a bit worried that you seem to be relying on finding a job in your profession of engineering. It's very unlikely that this will happen as employers for these types of jobs look for people on permanent visas, not temporary work/holiday visas. The usual types of jobs for work/holiday visa holders are temporary work in service or labour industries such as working in bars, shops and fruit picking. The work/holiday visa is really just for people to have an extended holiday in Australia and pick up a bit of temporary work here and there to supplement their funds.

charliecapaldi1 Jun 7th 2019 1:35 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Hello,

I had considered that however have spoken to 3-4 people who have secured engineering positions on s working holiday visa.....

spouse of scouse Jun 7th 2019 3:29 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12695087)
Hello,

I had considered that however have spoken to 3-4 people who have secured engineering positions on s working holiday visa.....
They were lucky, fingers crossed that you are too but do be prepared to do other work if you need money!

charliecapaldi1 Jun 7th 2019 3:32 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Thank you.

Any advice for where to stay at a reasonable price to good transport links?

:)

spouse of scouse Jun 7th 2019 3:53 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12695097)
Thank you.

Any advice for where to stay at a reasonable price to good transport links?

:)
Perth consists of a small City hub, with sprawling suburban areas stretching to the north, south and east of the City. You wouldn't be able to obtain an ordinary rental property as they almost always require you to sign an agreement to rent for at least 6 months, usually 12 months.

The most cost effective form of temporary housing would be a flat/home share, and they're usually located near the City. Check Airbnb and Gumtree, enter some approximate dates for an idea of the cost.

It's impossible to say which area would be best for you in terms of transport until you know what area you'll be working in.

charliecapaldi1 Jun 7th 2019 3:58 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Excellent l!

That has helped at a lot as I wasn't sure sure myself how they are house tenants with no history!

teza Jun 9th 2019 11:09 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12695087)
Hello,

I had considered that however have spoken to 3-4 people who have secured engineering positions on s working holiday visa.....
depends HUGELY when they did it. If it was boom time, people were head hunted for specific jobs, however mining boom is over and lot more competition per job ad.

Amazulu Jun 10th 2019 12:07 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12695087)
Hello,

I had considered that however have spoken to 3-4 people who have secured engineering positions on s working holiday visa.....
I work in mining project engineering and think that this would be highly unlikely at the moment. The mining industry is roaring back to life and job demand is tightening, but at the moment there are enough people available locally. This will change towards the end of this year and for the next few years but difficult right now

Just come and enjoy Australia - pick fruit, drink beer, travel, shag Danish backpackers

Good luck

Good luck

charliecapaldi1 Jun 10th 2019 1:27 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Hahhahhahahahahhaha

sounds like a god back up plan

charliecapaldi1 Jun 18th 2019 7:01 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Hello,

Could I give you a shout for when I come over? Or do you know any good recruitment agency’s over there mate?

Dorothy Jun 18th 2019 7:19 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12699896)
Hello,

Could I give you a shout for when I come over? Or do you know any good recruitment agency’s over there mate?
Who are you replying to?

charliecapaldi1 Jun 18th 2019 7:23 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Amazulu

Dorothy Jun 18th 2019 8:45 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12700070)
Amazulu
Try using the "QUOTE" button so people know.

teza Jun 18th 2019 10:51 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12699896)
Hello,

Could I give you a shout for when I come over? Or do you know any good recruitment agency’s over there mate?
what people are trying to tell you very gently, you’re planning a good paying job in a place where mining boom went bust and those with heaps of local knowledge and contacts have taken much lower paying jobs hoping for a pick up. So you, on a visa with restrictions and no contacts, brings what to the table against those whose former workmates still holding on to a job want the best workers back? WHV is bar work, fruit picking etc, not what it was at boom time

Amazulu Jun 19th 2019 12:40 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12699896)
Hello,

Could I give you a shout for when I come over? Or do you know any good recruitment agency’s over there mate?
Try:
Technical Resources
Titan Recruitment
Execom
Darryl Mills (on Linkedin)

charliecapaldi1 Jun 19th 2019 1:31 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Thanks

J___Mcewan Jun 19th 2019 3:23 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Why is everybody always so negative towards the whv on this forum? Seems the minute you mention a whv and skilled work, everybody jumps on the bandwagon to say you won't get anything in engineering or other skilled professions.

Who in their right mind is going to pick fruit when they have an engineering degree and experience?

I have been in Melbourne for 4 days and secured an interview the second day I was here...

spouse of scouse Jun 19th 2019 3:41 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700529)
Why is everybody always so negative towards the whv on this forum? Seems the minute you mention a whv and skilled work, everybody jumps on the bandwagon to say you won't get anything in engineering or other skilled professions.

Who in their right mind is going to pick fruit when they have an engineering degree and experience?

I have been in Melbourne for 4 days and secured an interview the second day I was here...
No one has said it's impossible, but rather have pointed out that given the restrictions of a WHV it's far from easy to walk into a professional position - and it is far from easy.

Nothing to do with 'bandwagons' and everything to do with providing the facts. Not sure why you seem have a problem with that.

J___Mcewan Jun 19th 2019 4:30 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12700531)
No one has said it's impossible, but rather have pointed out that given the restrictions of a WHV it's far from easy to walk into a professional position - and it is far from easy.

Nothing to do with 'bandwagons' and everything to do with providing the facts. Not sure why you seem have a problem with that.
All the facts are located on the home affairs website, I'm pretty sure people familiarise themselves with the visa before going ahead with it, unless they are stupid of course.

Skilled work is far from impossible, if you intend to just do casual work, instead of pursuing a longer term visa, such as the 482 - then yes it may be difficult. But if you are intending on securing long term work then it is not difficult.

I feel any post I go on regarding a whv and skilled work, its the same everytime "you wont get work" "just do bar work or fruit picking" do you honestly believe someone who is degree educated in engineering is going to come over and pick fruit?

Anyway, rant over ;)

Amazulu Jun 19th 2019 4:36 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700529)
Why is everybody always so negative towards the whv on this forum? Seems the minute you mention a whv and skilled work, everybody jumps on the bandwagon to say you won't get anything in engineering or other skilled professions.

Who in their right mind is going to pick fruit when they have an engineering degree and experience?

I have been in Melbourne for 4 days and secured an interview the second day I was here...
Relax

Many engineering/project companies won't consider you if you don't have, at least, PR. That's a fact. In my backpacking days, I also managed to get engineering work - for ABB at their HV switchgear factory in Sydney (I had a few years of experience in this area at the time, so it worked out well), but I was the exception, not the norm. Most of the other backpackers I hung out with were doing menial work - despite many of them having degrees. It can happen but is not common. Backpackers can sometimes get really well paid jobs on mine sites, but again, it's not normal

What's wrong with picking fruit? We've had a Belgian backpacker doing some work for us at home (via HelpX). He's also been doing plenty of fruit picking and farm work - even though he has a masters degree in electrical engineering. He's made pretty good coin and has just bought a really nice Mitsubishi Pajero to travel around Australia in. And if you want to get an extra year in Australia, you've got to go rural for at least 3 months

J___Mcewan Jun 19th 2019 4:46 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12700540)
Relax

Many engineering/project companies won't consider you if you don't have, at least, PR. That's a fact. In my backpacking days, I also managed to get engineering work - for ABB at their HV switchgear factory in Sydney (I had a few years of experience in this area at the time, so it worked out well), but I was the exception, not the norm. Most of the other backpackers I hung out with were doing menial work - despite many of them having degrees. It can happen but is not common. Backpackers can sometimes get really well paid jobs on mine sites, but again, it's not normal

What's wrong with picking fruit? We've had a Belgian backpacker doing some work for us at home (via HelpX). He's also been doing plenty of fruit picking and farm work - even though he has a masters degree in electrical engineering. He's made pretty good coin and has just bought a really nice Mitsubishi Pajero to travel around Australia in. And if you want to get an extra year in Australia, you've got to go rural for at least 3 months
Maybe its just me, but to do 4 - 5 years in uni and whatever expereince you have - to come to australia to then do fruit picking is mind boggling lol. Surely you come to australia to better your life, career wise and standard of living. Just me?

Amazulu Jun 19th 2019 5:16 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700543)
Maybe its just me, but to do 4 - 5 years in uni and whatever expereince you have - to come to australia to then do fruit picking is mind boggling lol. Surely you come to australia to better your life, career wise and standard of living. Just me?
But if you're here as a backpacker, it's just to travel, experience new stuff and have fun. Now this can certainly better your life, sometimes in ways that are not immediately measurable - but it is decidedly not about your career and SOL. The stated purpose of the WHV is most definitely not about your career and SOL - so I'd say it's just you

spouse of scouse Jun 19th 2019 5:18 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700543)
Maybe its just me, but to do 4 - 5 years in uni and whatever expereince you have - to come to australia to then do fruit picking is mind boggling lol. Surely you come to australia to better your life, career wise and standard of living. Just me?
I do understand what you're saying, but if people want to move to Australia to progress their career and they're degree educated, then applying for a permanent resident visa rather than a temporary holiday visa is the way to go.

spouse of scouse Jun 19th 2019 5:21 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700539)
All the facts are located on the home affairs website, I'm pretty sure people familiarise themselves with the visa before going ahead with it, unless they are stupid of course.

Pretty sure you won't find current, relevant advice from 'people on the ground' such as Amazulu on the home affairs website.

J___Mcewan Jun 19th 2019 5:26 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12700548)
I do understand what you're saying, but if people want to move to Australia to progress their career and they're degree educated, then applying for a permanent resident visa rather than a temporary holiday visa is the way to go.
True

teza Jun 19th 2019 11:21 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700543)
Maybe its just me, but to do 4 - 5 years in uni and whatever expereince you have - to come to australia to then do fruit picking is mind boggling lol. Surely you come to australia to better your life, career wise and standard of living. Just me?
i get what you’re saying, and that’s what skilled migration is for. WHV is to help rural areas to gain workers, they don’t care about your degree, they rely on young travelers to help with work. Don’t take it personally. You want something more permanent, aim for skilled migration.

J___Mcewan Jun 19th 2019 11:42 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by teza (Post 12700628)


i get what you’re saying, and that’s what skilled migration is for. WHV is to help rural areas to gain workers, they don’t care about your degree, they rely on young travelers to help with work. Don’t take it personally. You want something more permanent, aim for skilled migration.
I understand what the majority do with a WHV, but it can also be used to get ur foot on the ground, and seek out opportunities that can lead to sponsorship. Gaining the necessary points for skilled pr is a lengthy process, going the WHV to employer sponsorship is just another route to gaining pr. Not everyone who gets a WHV, intends to do bar work or fruit picking

teza Jun 19th 2019 11:56 pm
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700634)
I understand what the majority do with a WHV, but it can also be used to get ur foot on the ground, and seek out opportunities that can lead to sponsorship. Gaining the necessary points for skilled pr is a lengthy process, going the WHV to employer sponsorship is just another route to gaining pr. Not everyone who gets a WHV, intends to do bar work or fruit picking
Understood, however in current economical climate, that’s a pipe dream by many on WHVs. Plenty of local people, with local contacts, who’ve spent years in mines earning big bucks, only to see end of mining boom and working now smaller jobs waiting for upturn. My question is, how do you compare? Australia is very much “who do you know” and everyone knows someone who knows someone and a resident or citizen will always come first as employers don’t have to pay nothing. All the luck for trying, just pointing the facts. WHV USED to be a door in, it hasn’t been in years.

J___Mcewan Jun 20th 2019 12:11 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by teza (Post 12700643)

Understood, however in current economical climate, that’s a pipe dream by many on WHVs. Plenty of local people, with local contacts, who’ve spent years in mines earning big bucks, only to see end of mining boom and working now smaller jobs waiting for upturn. My question is, how do you compare? Australia is very much “who do you know” and everyone knows someone who knows someone and a resident or citizen will always come first as employers don’t have to pay nothing. All the luck for trying, just pointing the facts. WHV USED to be a door in, it hasn’t been in years.
If engineers weren't wanted in Australia, they wouldn't be on the MLTSSL. Therefore, there is clearly a requirement for engineers in Australia regardless of the visa you are on. Yes the WHV route is risky, but I personally know people who have recently been offered sponsorship on a WHV. I went for an interview today, and we spoke about sponsorship after 6 months. It is certainly possible

charliecapaldi1 Jun 20th 2019 12:13 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700647)
If engineers weren't wanted in Australia, they wouldn't be on the MLTSSL. Therefore, there is clearly a requirement for engineers in Australia regardless of the visa you are on. Yes the WHV route is risky, but I personally know people who have recently been offered sponsorship on a WHV. I went for an interview today, and we spoke about sponsorship after 6 months. It is certainly possible

This is good to hear

teza Jun 20th 2019 12:38 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by J___Mcewan (Post 12700647)
If engineers weren't wanted in Australia, they wouldn't be on the MLTSSL. Therefore, there is clearly a requirement for engineers in Australia regardless of the visa you are on. Yes the WHV route is risky, but I personally know people who have recently been offered sponsorship on a WHV. I went for an interview today, and we spoke about sponsorship after 6 months. It is certainly possible
but my point being, if you want PR, you go for skilled migration, it’s on the list for a reason. What you want is sponsoring, company has to fork out, Versus you have to fork out for skills assessment, visa etc. Think about it, will company

fork out with plenty of locals (citizens and PRs) around?

Dorothy Jun 20th 2019 11:28 am
Re: Perth - accommodation
 
Originally Posted by charliecapaldi1 (Post 12700650)



This is good to hear
Bear in mind that person is not in Perth. Perth is very much a small, "who you know, not what you know" place where there's a glut of mining professionals/trades who are all looking for work after they've been laid off. Why would an employer who doesn't know you from a bar of soap hire you, on a WHV where you can only work there for 6 month max and have no hope of being permanent, over his brother's mate's son who's a citizen and won't require sponsorship?


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