Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8310432)

I did not say that the entire population of Perth were gossips, I realise that a few people are not. There are also issues of privacy, fairness, nepotism and cronyism.

I did not say that no schools run excursions. Obviously there are some creative and thoughtful teachers out there. I just haven't met any of them. Where did I say that it is entirely up to schools to take children on excursions?

People have to deal with with different circumstances and with different financial situations. In our case these have made it difficult to get outside WA. If you didn't have this simple freedom, you would probably have a different attitude. Some posters here are coming across as smug and mean-spirited :thumbdown:.

I lived in London for a long time, and this is a major factor in my reaction to Perth places such as Scitech and the WA Art Gallery.

Where have I said that there is nothing good about Perth? I think it is important to acknowledge the minuses as well.

I have just as much right as you do to write about my experiences. Why get so vicious about other people's views? It is interesting that so many migrants to Perth seem to think that any criticism of Perth is a attack on their personal decision to come and live in Perth.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8310432)

Where have I said that there is nothing good about Perth? I think it is important to acknowledge the minuses as well.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8310432)

It is interesting that so many migrants to Perth seem to think that any criticism of Perth is a attack on their personal decision to come and live in Perth.

Originally Posted by Bondo (Post 8307575)

We visited for 2 weeks just over a year ago, we pretty much just saw the main suburbs around the centre of perth and fremantle. Ideally I'd like to live in North Fremantle, claremont or cottesloe, although on Phil down under when they went to Perth last week they said Cottesloe was the "Beverly Hills" of Perth, so perhaps that be a wee bit beyond our means :p

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 8310488)

I also lived in London for a long time. Did you seriously think that Scitech and the Art Gallery of WA would be anyway comparable to that of the Science Museum and some of the Galleries in London????? If someone moving from London comes to Perth thinking that just because it is a City that it will be in anyway like London then they deserve everything they get because they must be plain deluded.

Perth isn't for everyone, I am fully aware of that. Life would be exceptionally boring if we all liked the same thing.

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8311055)

Don't get involved in these pointless threads NB. I thought you would have learnt a lesson by now! ;)

Originally Posted by Weebie (Post 8306899)

Perth has become much better for younger people in the last 5 years I've noticed (i'm 25) but to say there is plenty to do for young people in Perth especielly hwen yo ucoem from europe is absolute garbage IMO

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8306916)

Unfortunately not all teachers are creative in seeking school excursion opportunities and mine have been to Perth Zoo and Mundaring Weir (considered very boring by my child), but not the other 2 you mentioned. I wouldn't want them to visit the Holocaust Museum, though, as they are too young. Their teachers haven't yet arranged for any class to go to the Maritime Musem in Freo, or to try bushwalking, or botanical anything, or science anything, or are these all considered high school stuff? My eldest child and I have had as much as we can take of Scitech, a sorry excuse for a science museum.

I was very lucky with school excursions where I grew up in the UK, and I feel sorry for Perth kids for what they miss. Yes, they gain in some ways, eg most kids in the UK don't get to go to surfing beaches. Obviously they are not going to visit Roman palaces here and there's probably not much rock art near Perth, if any.

I did not say that I expected all kids to want to go to art galleries, which is just as well when you live in Perth. I did say that there are many sporting opportunities, which hopefully keeps them busy and engaged.

I wouldn't want to be single in Perth due to its isolation and its insularity. I find Perthites (not the migrants, obviously :p) very gossipy and very inter-connected in a way that you wouldn't find in a city of a similar population elsewhere, such as the UK. There is little confidentiality, little privacy and an avid interest in other people's lives and mishaps.

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 8308011)

I didn't say it wasn't crowded, I said it was a piece of cake compared to commuting in London. I also said that my experience of Joondalup Hospital was good. I was there again today at the Orthopedic Trauma Clinic. We were in and out including an xray in 45 minutes. I sometimes do wonder if I live in a parallel Perth to everyone else because none of what happens to others happens to me. It doesn't mean that other peoples experiences aren't valid just that there are always 2 sides to everything.

Originally Posted by aussietobe (Post 8311677)

Negativity breeds negativey, as does positivity. If you expect positive experiences and people, you usually get it.

Originally Posted by Neil52 (Post 8308663)

I am going back to Oz but not Perth as I outgrew it in the 3 years I was there, I agree some people are suited to Perth but I was not one of them, I am used to getting a cheap trip to Madrid or Prague for a few days 4 or 5 times a year and I just found perth boring and restrictive, you can only do so much in Perth if you are not into sports or the beach etc...I suppose growing up in London did not help to be honest.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8313320)

Narrow-minded, superficial, impatient, judgemental, ignorant yet supremely arrogant – not qualities I value or aspire to. Perhaps that’s why a part of me does not enjoy Perth and why some of you seem so qualified to be here.

Originally Posted by Caligulove (Post 8313502)

Am I coming across that way??? 'Ignorant yet extremely arrogant'?? I merely feel the need to defend my beautiful state. Sorry to not have read your other posts...:confused:
It is so easy to misunderstand others via the net.
If you find western Australians so offensive, perhaps move somewhere where the people are less 'ignorant, arrogant, superficial and judgemental, etc.'

Won't pretend i'm not offended on behalf of all the Perth residents whom have just been labelled in this manner

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8313320)

Where on earth did any of you get the idea that I expected Perth to have the same facilities as London? All I’m saying is that if you’ve really enjoyed a feature of life in another place, it can be hard living with something of lesser quality. Just like really enjoying fantastic, hand-made Belgian chocolates, then having nothing but cheap and nasty supermarket cooking chocolate – why bother?

I have posted in other threads about having children with special needs. If you have to walk along that path, then you do the best you can for your children to see that they get what they need. Perth can be a hard place to access assistance, let alone being in rural areas. Yes, as parents and as individuals, we’ve had to make sacrifices. Some of these measures have meant that we have been outside WA only once in 12 years. Try doing that and you soon realise that Perth can be restrictive with a lack of facilities and services – when it really comes down to it, there are more important things in life than sunshine for 9 months of the year.

As to some of your other comments, they’re pretty nasty and say more about you than me.

Narrow-minded, superficial, impatient, judgemental, ignorant yet supremely arrogant – not qualities I value or aspire to. Perhaps that’s why a part of me does not enjoy Perth and why some of you seem so qualified to be here.

Originally Posted by aussietobe (Post 8311687)

Fair enough. I am 47 now and not into travelling to Paris or Prague every second weekend. I visited those cities, had a great time, but now I want to live a nice comfortable life and walk my dog at the beach, meet my friends for coffee, and enjoy the sunshine. Sounds like Melbourne or Sydney would be more to your liking.

Originally Posted by aussietobe (Post 8311649)

Surely it depends on what you like to do????? Not many young people in Europe spend their weekend touring art galleries and visiting castles.

Originally Posted by Nu-Shooz (Post 8314044)

I don't think you were quoted.

Moral of the story, Perth isn't for everyone, get over it;)

Originally Posted by aussietobe (Post 8311687)

Fair enough. I am 47 now and not into travelling to Paris or Prague every second weekend. I visited those cities, had a great time, but now I want to live a nice comfortable life and walk my dog at the beach, meet my friends for coffee, and enjoy the sunshine. Sounds like Melbourne or Sydney would be more to your liking.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8313320)

Where on earth did any of you get the idea that I expected Perth to have the same facilities as London? All I’m saying is that if you’ve really enjoyed a feature of life in another place, it can be hard living with something of lesser quality. Just like really enjoying fantastic, hand-made Belgian chocolates, then having nothing but cheap and nasty supermarket cooking chocolate – why bother?

I have posted in other threads about having children with special needs. If you have to walk along that path, then you do the best you can for your children to see that they get what they need. Perth can be a hard place to access assistance, let alone being in rural areas. Yes, as parents and as individuals, we’ve had to make sacrifices. Some of these measures have meant that we have been outside WA only once in 12 years. Try doing that and you soon realise that Perth can be restrictive with a lack of facilities and services – when it really comes down to it, there are more important things in life than sunshine for 9 months of the year.

As to some of your other comments, they’re pretty nasty and say more about you than me.

Narrow-minded, superficial, impatient, judgemental, ignorant yet supremely arrogant – not qualities I value or aspire to. Perhaps that’s why a part of me does not enjoy Perth and why some of you seem so qualified to be here.

Originally Posted by HelenTD (Post 8313320)

Where on earth did any of you get the idea that I expected Perth to have the same facilities as London? All I’m saying is that if you’ve really enjoyed a feature of life in another place, it can be hard living with something of lesser quality. Just like really enjoying fantastic, hand-made Belgian chocolates, then having nothing but cheap and nasty supermarket cooking chocolate – why bother?

I have posted in other threads about having children with special needs. If you have to walk along that path, then you do the best you can for your children to see that they get what they need. Perth can be a hard place to access assistance, let alone being in rural areas. Yes, as parents and as individuals, we’ve had to make sacrifices. Some of these measures have meant that we have been outside WA only once in 12 years. Try doing that and you soon realise that Perth can be restrictive with a lack of facilities and services – when it really comes down to it, there are more important things in life than sunshine for 9 months of the year.

As to some of your other comments, they’re pretty nasty and say more about you than me.

Narrow-minded, superficial, impatient, judgemental, ignorant yet supremely arrogant – not qualities I value or aspire to. Perhaps that’s why a part of me does not enjoy Perth and why some of you seem so qualified to be here.

Originally Posted by donki (Post 8343011)

hi we just has a gas bill which was for nearly four months that was $200.00 which i thought was cheap we have das one electricity bill $120 again cheap thatwas four nearly four months too... our rent is 380.00 per week, food you cant say cos you can make it cheap if you want to! and dont mention the phone i'm totally over Telstra.dont get inton a contract with them they are >$it :)