PB Tabloid: Eurostar's 208mph record
Jul 30th 2003, 10:51 pm
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The UK does not just consist of London, wow you can get to paris by train in however short a time it takes, yet the east coast main line is not electrified north of Edinburgh and will not be in the near future leaving most of scotland with a rail system one step up from steam! Now i know you are all going to come back at me with "well Scotland doesnt matter" you are entitled to your opinion but those of you so desperate to return to the UK may well find services in more rural areas not to the standard you expect from reading press reports whose idea of the UK is London.
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Jul 30th 2003, 11:29 pm
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A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
Jul 30th 2003, 11:38 pm
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I work in the rail industry & can tell you that the network is knackered. The amount of investment needed is scary (good news for those of us in engineering). For example the project that I am working on is to upgrade the power supply to the network in the south east because the new trains that are being delivered draw too much current & overheat the transformers (how's that for planning, currently there are 100's of brand new state of the art trains sitting in sidings rusting away), it's going to cost 1 billion plus to rectify.
The channel tunnel link is a project that is politically motivated prestigious project & thus is getting the funding needed.
Crossrail is a brilliant scheme that has been off & on for at least 15 years & is expected to cost 7 billion plus & it is yet to be seen if the funding will be there.
It is yet to be seen if the network will get what it needs, the government talks big but has yet to put it's money where it's mouth is.
The channel tunnel link is a project that is politically motivated prestigious project & thus is getting the funding needed.
Crossrail is a brilliant scheme that has been off & on for at least 15 years & is expected to cost 7 billion plus & it is yet to be seen if the funding will be there.
It is yet to be seen if the network will get what it needs, the government talks big but has yet to put it's money where it's mouth is.
Jul 30th 2003, 11:42 pm
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Re: Eurostar's 208mph record
The mark was set during a test run along a section of the Channel Tunnel Rail Link, a new line being built between the Tunnel mouth and London.
The previous record was 162.2 mph, set in 1979. The world record, set by a French TGV train in 1990, is 322 mph.
Eurostar trains will not be able to break records in normal service -- with the extra weight of passengers to carry -- but the company said they should be able to touch 186 mph, which would cut journey times from London to Paris, Lille and Brussels by 20 minutes.
The previous record was 162.2 mph, set in 1979. The world record, set by a French TGV train in 1990, is 322 mph.
Eurostar trains will not be able to break records in normal service -- with the extra weight of passengers to carry -- but the company said they should be able to touch 186 mph, which would cut journey times from London to Paris, Lille and Brussels by 20 minutes.
Don't get me wrong I am proud to be British but our rail and transport network sucks. Take this from someone who travels around 30000 miles per year
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Jul 31st 2003, 1:45 am
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Originally posted by lynnj
The UK does not just consist of London, wow you can get to paris by train in however short a time it takes, yet the east coast main line is not electrified north of Edinburgh and will not be in the near future leaving most of scotland with a rail system one step up from steam! Now i know you are all going to come back at me with "well Scotland doesnt matter" you are entitled to your opinion but those of you so desperate to return to the UK may well find services in more rural areas not to the standard you expect from reading press reports whose idea of the UK is London.
Lynn
The UK does not just consist of London, wow you can get to paris by train in however short a time it takes, yet the east coast main line is not electrified north of Edinburgh and will not be in the near future leaving most of scotland with a rail system one step up from steam! Now i know you are all going to come back at me with "well Scotland doesnt matter" you are entitled to your opinion but those of you so desperate to return to the UK may well find services in more rural areas not to the standard you expect from reading press reports whose idea of the UK is London.
Lynn
The first part of my journey is shared with electric trains, and they suck big time. The sooner they all go back to diesel the better
A suppose electric lines with inbuilt redundency would be nice but it doesn't seem to happen.
Jul 31st 2003, 1:46 am
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Originally posted by tinaj
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
Trains have to slow for curves. We have a lot of them. The French don't.
Jul 31st 2003, 1:53 am
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Sorry God you're getting too technical for me, i guess we are all agreed though, why the hell spend so much money for fast trains to Paris when your domestic service is in such a state, i guess 200mph cross border doesnt sound so good in the international press does it? It wouldnt make Britain look so impression in the eyes of the world.
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Jul 31st 2003, 3:36 am
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Originally posted by lynnj
Sorry God you're getting too technical for me, i guess we are all agreed though, why the hell spend so much money for fast trains to Paris when your domestic service is in such a state, i guess 200mph cross border doesnt sound so good in the international press does it? It wouldnt make Britain look so impression in the eyes of the world.
Lynn
Sorry God you're getting too technical for me, i guess we are all agreed though, why the hell spend so much money for fast trains to Paris when your domestic service is in such a state, i guess 200mph cross border doesnt sound so good in the international press does it? It wouldnt make Britain look so impression in the eyes of the world.
Lynn
Of course I use to work in Reading and even saw Japanese tourists taking photos of the arrivals board because they couldn't believe that half of them were late!!
Jul 31st 2003, 6:00 am
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Originally posted by gOD
Of course I use to work in Reading and even saw Japanese tourists taking photos of the arrivals board because they couldn't believe that half of them were late!!
Of course I use to work in Reading and even saw Japanese tourists taking photos of the arrivals board because they couldn't believe that half of them were late!!
Jul 31st 2003, 9:28 am
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Originally posted by tinaj
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Moan moan whinge whinge (but not too much....)
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Jul 31st 2003, 12:29 pm
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Re: Eurostar's 208mph record
[QUOTE]Originally posted by porkchop
That compares to the channel tunnel , grow up , this line is already been labeled a dead duck.
Originally posted by pommie bastard
You jest South of the river in Perth is no mans land and trains interstate are not worth using , again you show how naive you are .
The Northern line is good but the population have been forced to bunch together to live near it , Perth is a small city connected to nowhere this line connects London to Paris a major engineering project nothing in Australia compares to it.
What about the construction of the $1.4billion rail link between Perth and Mandurah?
PC
You jest South of the river in Perth is no mans land and trains interstate are not worth using , again you show how naive you are .
The Northern line is good but the population have been forced to bunch together to live near it , Perth is a small city connected to nowhere this line connects London to Paris a major engineering project nothing in Australia compares to it.
What about the construction of the $1.4billion rail link between Perth and Mandurah?
PC
That compares to the channel tunnel , grow up , this line is already been labeled a dead duck.
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Jul 31st 2003, 12:32 pm
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Originally posted by tinaj
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
A EUROSTAR train reached 208mph to smash the UK speed record yesterday — but it was still late.
Yeah the French only beat us to it 15 YEARS AGO. How sad is that for England. Their trains reach something like 100km faster than ours.
And remember there is probably only 1 train that can go this fast!!They didn't mention that did they ?
Jul 31st 2003, 12:36 pm
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Re: Eurostar's 208mph record
Originally posted by h garrett
Heres another look at the new record. We ain't been able to better it since 1979. The French kicked our butts 13 years ago. The train won't really be able to go that fast.
Don't get me wrong I am proud to be British but our rail and transport network sucks. Take this from someone who travels around 30000 miles per year
Matt
Heres another look at the new record. We ain't been able to better it since 1979. The French kicked our butts 13 years ago. The train won't really be able to go that fast.
Don't get me wrong I am proud to be British but our rail and transport network sucks. Take this from someone who travels around 30000 miles per year
Matt
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Jul 31st 2003, 3:33 pm
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Originally posted by Amazulu
I work in the rail industry & can tell you that the network is knackered. The amount of investment needed is scary (good news for those of us in engineering). For example the project that I am working on is to upgrade the power supply to the network in the south east because the new trains that are being delivered draw too much current & overheat the transformers (how's that for planning, currently there are 100's of brand new state of the art trains sitting in sidings rusting away), it's going to cost 1 billion plus to rectify.
The channel tunnel link is a project that is politically motivated prestigious project & thus is getting the funding needed.
Crossrail is a brilliant scheme that has been off & on for at least 15 years & is expected to cost 7 billion plus & it is yet to be seen if the funding will be there.
It is yet to be seen if the network will get what it needs, the government talks big but has yet to put it's money where it's mouth is.
I work in the rail industry & can tell you that the network is knackered. The amount of investment needed is scary (good news for those of us in engineering). For example the project that I am working on is to upgrade the power supply to the network in the south east because the new trains that are being delivered draw too much current & overheat the transformers (how's that for planning, currently there are 100's of brand new state of the art trains sitting in sidings rusting away), it's going to cost 1 billion plus to rectify.
The channel tunnel link is a project that is politically motivated prestigious project & thus is getting the funding needed.
Crossrail is a brilliant scheme that has been off & on for at least 15 years & is expected to cost 7 billion plus & it is yet to be seen if the funding will be there.
It is yet to be seen if the network will get what it needs, the government talks big but has yet to put it's money where it's mouth is.
Well you should have fun in Australia same crap different place.
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Jul 31st 2003, 8:23 pm
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily
I saw some Brits taking photos because they couldn't believe that ONLY half were late.
I saw some Brits taking photos because they couldn't believe that ONLY half were late.
That has me almost pissing myself. Sounds like you have dealt with First Great Western as well!!
