Past Job references
May 26th 2003, 10:49 pm
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Past Job references
Got 12 yrs experience in my profession.
My problem is job references, are they really required that far back?
I ask because one company doesn't exist anymore, so what do I do to prove I worked there?
Lastly, I've been freelance for last 5.5yrs(Ltd Company), so do I need references of my past clients or a letter from Companies House that I have existed for the time I state in my application.
Ta in advance for any help.
My problem is job references, are they really required that far back?
I ask because one company doesn't exist anymore, so what do I do to prove I worked there?
Lastly, I've been freelance for last 5.5yrs(Ltd Company), so do I need references of my past clients or a letter from Companies House that I have existed for the time I state in my application.
Ta in advance for any help.
May 26th 2003, 10:56 pm
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Hi
We are at same stage as yourself organising paperwork for assessment.
We also have situation where a business no longer exists - in those circumstances I would do a statutory declaration confirming that you worked for this company and that no longer exists.
If you have a limited company - provide them with a certified copy of the Certificate of Incorporation - the certificate proves that the company exists and certifying a copy of it proves that it is a true copy.
Try to get letters from 1 or 2 clients, suppliers and your accountant together with any copy accounts and payslips etc.
Good luck
We are at same stage as yourself organising paperwork for assessment.
We also have situation where a business no longer exists - in those circumstances I would do a statutory declaration confirming that you worked for this company and that no longer exists.
If you have a limited company - provide them with a certified copy of the Certificate of Incorporation - the certificate proves that the company exists and certifying a copy of it proves that it is a true copy.
Try to get letters from 1 or 2 clients, suppliers and your accountant together with any copy accounts and payslips etc.
Good luck
May 26th 2003, 11:03 pm
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Originally posted by rizalan
Hi
We are at same stage as yourself organising paperwork for assessment.
We also have situation where a business no longer exists - in those circumstances I would do a statutory declaration confirming that you worked for this company and that no longer exists.
If you have a limited company - provide them with a certified copy of the Certificate of Incorporation - the certificate proves that the company exists and certifying a copy of it proves that it is a true copy.
Try to get letters from 1 or 2 clients, suppliers and your accountant together with any copy accounts and payslips etc.
Good luck
Hi
We are at same stage as yourself organising paperwork for assessment.
We also have situation where a business no longer exists - in those circumstances I would do a statutory declaration confirming that you worked for this company and that no longer exists.
If you have a limited company - provide them with a certified copy of the Certificate of Incorporation - the certificate proves that the company exists and certifying a copy of it proves that it is a true copy.
Try to get letters from 1 or 2 clients, suppliers and your accountant together with any copy accounts and payslips etc.
Good luck
I'm applying for Nz, could you explain what a "statutory declaration" is? Is it a seperate declaration on the application forms or simply a letter signed by yourself explaining the situation?
May 26th 2003, 11:03 pm
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if you want to be assessed quickly and without much fuss get as much info as possible
proving that you worked for a particular company that's gone bust isn't easy
old payslips?
are you in contact with any other old staff? managerial if poss??
get references from hem stating how long you worked there and what work you did
if you are freelance you will need to prove your ltd company exists accountant letter cert of insurance etc
get 3+ trade ref
(from your suppliers stating stuff bought -make sure it relates to your work tho')
3 + customers ref -
make sure they say how much turnover how long and must state what work you do for them..and it must relate to what you are being assessed for..
i would also include pic's of yourself 'actually at work' etc esp if you wear overalls and have a signed van or whatever..
some may feel this is overkill but it makes their assessment of you easier -seeing is believing'
cheers
richard
proving that you worked for a particular company that's gone bust isn't easy
old payslips?
are you in contact with any other old staff? managerial if poss??
get references from hem stating how long you worked there and what work you did
if you are freelance you will need to prove your ltd company exists accountant letter cert of insurance etc
get 3+ trade ref
(from your suppliers stating stuff bought -make sure it relates to your work tho')
3 + customers ref -
make sure they say how much turnover how long and must state what work you do for them..and it must relate to what you are being assessed for..
i would also include pic's of yourself 'actually at work' etc esp if you wear overalls and have a signed van or whatever..
some may feel this is overkill but it makes their assessment of you easier -seeing is believing'
cheers
richard
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May 26th 2003, 11:09 pm
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Originally posted by r.bartlett
if you want to be assessed quickly and without much fuss get as much info as possible
proving that you worked for a particular company that's gone bust isn't easy
old payslips?
are you in contact with any other old staff? managerial if poss??
if you are freelanc you will need to prove your ltd company exists accountant letter cert of insurance etc
get 3+ trade ref(from your suppliers stating stuff bought -make sure it relates to your work tho')
3 + customers ref -make sure they say how much turnover how long and must stste what work you do for them..and it must relate to what you are being assessed for..
i would also include pic's of yourself 'actually at work etc esp if you wear overalls and have a signed van or whatever..
some may feel this is overkill but it makes their assessment of you easier -seeing is believing'
cheers
richard
if you want to be assessed quickly and without much fuss get as much info as possible
proving that you worked for a particular company that's gone bust isn't easy
old payslips?
are you in contact with any other old staff? managerial if poss??
if you are freelanc you will need to prove your ltd company exists accountant letter cert of insurance etc
get 3+ trade ref(from your suppliers stating stuff bought -make sure it relates to your work tho')
3 + customers ref -make sure they say how much turnover how long and must stste what work you do for them..and it must relate to what you are being assessed for..
i would also include pic's of yourself 'actually at work etc esp if you wear overalls and have a signed van or whatever..
some may feel this is overkill but it makes their assessment of you easier -seeing is believing'
cheers
richard
I may be able to track down an old director, but what do I need off him? A letter simply stating I worked for him and what my role was and that the reason the company does not exist anymore?
The Ltd company prove can be obtained from my Accountants or accounts(I have 4yrs), and a Companies House certificate, is that enough or do I need client refereces aswell?
May 26th 2003, 11:12 pm
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Agree with Richard go for the overkill as no positive assessment no visa. Stat Dec - letter confirming situation and sworn before a legally qualified person.
statutory declaration basically something like this (failing that do search on site and should have other examples and comments on same):-
I [your name] of [your address] do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows:-
[state here who your worked for how long, what you did (lots of detail) and confirm that they are no longer in business provide dates]
Sworn by the said [your name] at [place of signing e.g. City in which you are at] on [date]
.....................
[print name and sign above on dotted line]
before [name of solicitor/notary public] - solicitor is a notary public - confusing I know but NP has own seal either way as long as before legally qualified person.
.....................
[name of solicitor in print signs above on dotted line]
Hope that is of some use
statutory declaration basically something like this (failing that do search on site and should have other examples and comments on same):-
I [your name] of [your address] do solemnly and sincerely declare as follows:-
[state here who your worked for how long, what you did (lots of detail) and confirm that they are no longer in business provide dates]
Sworn by the said [your name] at [place of signing e.g. City in which you are at] on [date]
.....................
[print name and sign above on dotted line]
before [name of solicitor/notary public] - solicitor is a notary public - confusing I know but NP has own seal either way as long as before legally qualified person.
.....................
[name of solicitor in print signs above on dotted line]
Hope that is of some use
May 26th 2003, 11:13 pm
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Client references should also be supplied - you can draft a style and all they have to do is sign it - detailing what you did for them etc
May 26th 2003, 11:15 pm
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Originally posted by rizalan
Client references should also be supplied - you can draft a style and all they have to do is sign it - detailing what you did for them etc
Client references should also be supplied - you can draft a style and all they have to do is sign it - detailing what you did for them etc
May 26th 2003, 11:26 pm
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email me an email address and i'll send you a copy
May 26th 2003, 11:28 pm
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Sorry not at that stage yet so dont have any styles - could ask forum but I thought basically
Address of client, DATE (important)
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Your name
Then in as much detail as possible job you undertook what it entailed, happy with service provided etc would recommend you/employ your services again (important part is what you did and how you did it and when you did it I guess)
your faithfully
If anyone has anything to add to this or correct me feel free to do so as would be interested to know
I would also provide CV summarising all the jobs you have done etc, - normal CV keep that fairly short - your letters will back up CV.
Get letter from at least 3 suppliers but if your a small business like ours then (we only use 2) so say in a separate letter attached to the two suppliers letters why only two (that is what TRA told me when I emailed them) basically saying how long they have dealt with you, what kind of business you have what they supply you with etc.
Address of client, DATE (important)
TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
Your name
Then in as much detail as possible job you undertook what it entailed, happy with service provided etc would recommend you/employ your services again (important part is what you did and how you did it and when you did it I guess)
your faithfully
If anyone has anything to add to this or correct me feel free to do so as would be interested to know
I would also provide CV summarising all the jobs you have done etc, - normal CV keep that fairly short - your letters will back up CV.
Get letter from at least 3 suppliers but if your a small business like ours then (we only use 2) so say in a separate letter attached to the two suppliers letters why only two (that is what TRA told me when I emailed them) basically saying how long they have dealt with you, what kind of business you have what they supply you with etc.
May 26th 2003, 11:30 pm
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Hey Richard
Would I be being very cheeky and also asked for a style? Sent you a PM but apparently your a very popular fella - your inbox is full!!
regards
Would I be being very cheeky and also asked for a style? Sent you a PM but apparently your a very popular fella - your inbox is full!!
regards
May 26th 2003, 11:32 pm
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Originally posted by rizalan
Client references should also be supplied - you can draft a style and all they have to do is sign it - detailing what you did for them etc
Client references should also be supplied - you can draft a style and all they have to do is sign it - detailing what you did for them etc
PM sent.
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May 27th 2003, 1:05 am
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I have 17 years of work experience and 11 employers plus self employed for 3 years. Just contact the inland revenue and asked them for all my p60 records that stated all the previous companies I worked for and all my self assessment tax records.
May 27th 2003, 1:12 am
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Originally posted by stooly
I have 17 years of work experience and 11 employers plus self employed for 3 years. Just contact the inland revenue and asked them for all my p60 records that stated all the previous companies I worked for and all my self assessment tax records.
I have 17 years of work experience and 11 employers plus self employed for 3 years. Just contact the inland revenue and asked them for all my p60 records that stated all the previous companies I worked for and all my self assessment tax records.
Thanks anyway for a decent suggestion.
I think I can get a personal letter of a former director of the company I worked for. Its if they want further prove thats all.
My CV will have all the duties I performed. This should be enough I hope
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May 27th 2003, 2:01 am
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Only thing ids it needs to be on headed paper has I found out.
