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Old Sep 2nd 2002, 4:05 pm
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I have only 23 points and was hoping to get a work visa. Being in the IT field, will it make a difference, Will i be able to get a work visa. I already have got my NZQA report, it says the Bsc i have is equivalent to a Bsc from a Nz Uni. Will it have any adv???
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Originally posted by viper:
I have only 23 points and was hoping to get a work visa. Being in the IT field, will it make a difference, Will i be able to get a work visa. I already have got my NZQA report, it says the Bsc i have is equivalent to a Bsc from a Nz Uni. Will it have any adv???
You need to be within 5 points of the passmark to get a work deferral visa, ie you are 1 point short. However, if you get a job offer, it's worth 8 points to you and you'll qualify for PR.
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily:


You need to be within 5 points of the passmark to get a work deferral visa, ie you are 1 point short. However, if you get a job offer, it's worth 8 points to you and you'll qualify for PR.
Thanks for your reply. Without a work visa, in this case, how can i get a job offer letter.

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Originally posted by viper:


Thanks for your reply. Without a work visa, in this case, how can i get a job offer letter.

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That's a challenge. If you have skills in demand, you might get a job offer Before you have a work permit. An IT professional who is a poster on this forum (Ian Guy) got more than one job offer before going to NZ.

But you're right that for most people it will be tough to get a job offer without a work visa.
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily:


That's a challenge. If you have skills in demand, you might get a job offer Before you have a work permit. An IT professional who is a poster on this forum (Ian Guy) got more than one job offer before going to NZ.

But you're right that for most people it will be tough to get a job offer without a work visa.
Thanks you for the reply. I looked in the members directory. The only Ian whom i found was a person interested in going to Oz. Can U tell me a way of getting a job offer?. Have i got to contact a Job agent ???

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Originally posted by viper:


Thanks you for the reply. I looked in the members directory. The only Ian whom i found was a person interested in going to Oz. Can U tell me a way of getting a job offer?. Have i got to contact a Job agent ???

Thanks again.
I think Ian's a usenet poster, not a member. You have to shout and he'll tell you his experience...IAN GUY! IAN GUY! TELL US HOW YOU GOT IT JOB OFFERS!!!
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Old Sep 3rd 2002, 12:53 pm
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The kind of people who will be able to benefit from a job offer (8 points) with
only 21 points will be those already in New Zealand on a work permit or other
temporary status.

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    >On Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:56:01 +0000, viper <[email protected]> wrote:
    >Originally posted by pleasancefamily:
    >> You need to be within 5 points of the passmark to get a work deferral visa, ie you
    >> are 1 point short. However, if you get a job offer, it's worth 8 points to you and
    >> you'll qualify for PR.
    >Thanks for your reply. Without a work visa, in this case, how can i get a job
    >offer letter.
    >Thanks
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Originally posted by viper:


Thanks you for the reply. I looked in the members directory. The only Ian whom i found was a person interested in going to Oz. Can U tell me a way of getting a job offer?. Have i got to contact a Job agent ???

Thanks again.
There are a number of online job web sites such as www.nzjobs.co.nz also the nz herald has job vacancies on line. I guess its a matter of applying for anything and everything and hoping they need someone with your skills. If you can secure an offer from an established company then you will qualify for residency. Good Luck.

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I speak from experience (my own and that of friends who have visited NZ) that it is nearly impossible to get a job offer when you are outside NZ. What you Will find is that there are plenty of agencies/employers who are willing to offer you an interview in NZ, however as they haven't actually met you offering a job to a person they have never met is a little hard to justify. The exception to this seems to be large corporates who transfer staff to other locations (I work for a large accounting firm...there are an amazing number of poms in the firm who have transfered from the UK).

The best thing to do IMO is to speak to lots of recruitment agencies (who will probably offer you interviews) then come over, hit the ground running & search for a job when you get here. Once you're here it is a very simple process to apply for and obtain a work visa, once you've got a work visa you can then apply for residency. Another point worth noting here is that work experience in NZ actually gives you points towards your PR application - 1yr work experience = 1 point (you can claim a max of 2 points for NZ work exp). Once you've been here a year or so, the passmark will have hopefully stabilised then you could apply for PR. I've heard from a few sources that this approach goes down well with NZIS when it comes to PR applications (eg work permit/visa first, then PR).

You asked in your original post if working in IT gives you any advantage for PR applications. There is an IT specialists scheme which makes things easier for IT people who don't have a degree, you are awarded 10 points providing you have industry training (eg something like a CNE/MCSE qual) plus at least 3 years relevant experience (which incidentally cannot count towards the gen. skills work experience requirement). As you already have a BSc you don't have any advantage over other occuptations, although IT IS still listed on the NZ occupational shortages list, which is unlike Australia and the UK, both of which have removed IT jobs from their lists of skills in short supply.

Some IT job agencies in NZ:

www.candle.co.nz
www.dewinter.co.nz
www.nz.tmp.com
www.spherion.co.nz

www.nzherald.co.nz (job days are Mon & Weds)
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Originally posted by BritboyNZ:
As you already have a BSc you don't have any advantage over other occuptations, although IT IS still listed on the NZ occupational shortages list, which is unlike Australia and the UK, both of which have removed IT jobs from their lists of skills in short supply.
An additional advantage is that with IT on the occ shortages list, employers do not need to satisfy the requirement that no NZ'er could do the job before offering it to you.
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hi again guys
im really confused now..looking at the new acs guidelines lookslike it will be very difficult for me to get through to OZ,does looking at NZ make more sense?i have 2 years IT exp and a 4 year engineering degree..will NZ be an easier and faster option?







Originally posted by pleasancefamily:


An additional advantage is that with IT on the occ shortages list, employers do not need to satisfy the requirement that no NZ'er could do the job before offering it to you.
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Originally posted by rohit_tar:
hi again guys
im really confused now..looking at the new acs guidelines lookslike it will be very difficult for me to get through to OZ,does looking at NZ make more sense?i have 2 years IT exp and a 4 year engineering degree..will NZ be an easier and faster option?
I would not advise you to choose NZ just because it is an easier option - DYOR first.

But check out the www.immigration.govt.nz site first to see your points under gen skills. If you have the points, you can get immigration approval.

NZIS London - no appreciable delay (say, 3 months max). NZIS New Delhi - considerable delays, up to 2 years (pressure of demand).
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NO WE DON'T WANT YOU. Don't come here because you cant get in to oz, this is such a
wonderful country we want people who want to be here and make every effort to fit it,
not people who come because they cant get in anywhere else.

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"rohit_tar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > hi again guys im really confused now..looking at the new acs guidelines lookslike
    > it will be very difficult for me to get through to OZ,does looking at NZ make more
    > sense?i have 2 years IT exp and a 4 year engineering degree..will NZ be an easier
    > and faster option?
    > Originally posted by pleasancefamily:
    > >
    > >
    > An additional advantage is that with IT on the occ shortages list, employers do
    > not need to satisfy the requirement that no NZ'er could do the job before offering
    > it to you.
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Old Sep 4th 2002, 8:31 pm
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With a pass mark of 29, at this point NZ is going to be harder for many people than
Australia.

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    >On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 08:12:14 +1200, "Emmy & Phil" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >NO WE DON'T WANT YOU. Don't come here because you cant get in to oz, this is such a
    >wonderful country we want people who want to be here and make every effort to fit
    >it, not people who come because they cant get in anywhere else.
    >Emily
    >"rohit_tar" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >> hi again guys im really confused now..looking at the new acs guidelines lookslike
    >> it will be very difficult for me to get through to OZ,does looking at NZ make more
    >> sense?i have 2 years IT exp and a 4 year engineering degree..will NZ be an easier
    >> and faster option?
 
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Originally posted by Jaj:
With a pass mark of 29, at this point NZ is going to be harder for many people than
Australia.

Jeremy
Don't get me wrong - the Pleasances did a lot of research on the NZ or Aus question and NZ won for us! But a major drawback for Aus for us was the waiting time before PR approval. Not true for NZ! Life's too short when you're a fast-approaching middle-ager like me to put everything on hold for so long with a non-priority Aus application.
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