Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
I know there have been a few threads recently about the disparity between flights from the UK to Oz being cheaper than heading the other way. There was a detailed reply from someone explaining why this was so, and, try as I might, I still couldn't REALLY get my head round the argument 100%.
Current fare (May departure) on Emirates PER - LHR return = £1,202. Other direction (same days) £598. Don't kid me someone isn't making a killing here ! No wonder WA residents never go anyhwere. Too damned expensive!! I'd have thought that this disparity would have improved over the last 12 months. The AU$ is strong against every currency in the world theoretically making imports (incl intl airfares) cheaper. Not so apparently. Even stuff imported from the US$ zones around the world has not got any cheaper, viz. Bacardi, Corona, tequila, rum...just the same price as 2 years ago when it was 0.65 rather than the current 0.92 US$ exchange rate. Not to mention how expensive drinking out is...$10 for a bottle of Corona...that's £6.25 to us Brits (OK the exchange rate doesnt help!). $2 MORE expensive than a year ago when the AU$ was worth 25% LESS against the US$ than it is now!! Nearly choked on my slice of lime!! :thumbdown: |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by BATS666
(Post 8467126)
I know there have been a few threads recently about the disparity between flights from the UK to Oz being cheaper than heading the other way. There was a detailed reply from someone explaining why this was so, and, try as I might, I still couldn't REALLY get my head round the argument 100%.
Current fare (May departure) on Emirates PER - LHR return = £1,202. Other direction (same days) £598. Don't kid me someone isn't making a killing here ! No wonder WA residents never go anyhwere. Too damned expensive!! I'd have thought that this disparity would have improved over the last 12 months. The AU$ is strong against every currency in the world theoretically making imports (incl intl airfares) cheaper. Not so apparently. Even stuff imported from the US$ zones around the world has not got any cheaper, viz. Bacardi, Corona, tequila, rum...just the same price as 2 years ago when it was 0.65 rather than the current 0.92 US$ exchange rate. Not to mention how expensive drinking out is...$10 for a bottle of Corona...that's £6.25 to us Brits (OK the exchange rate doesnt help!). $2 MORE expensive than a year ago when the AU$ was worth 25% LESS against the US$ than it is now!! Nearly choked on my slice of lime!! :thumbdown: |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by BATS666
(Post 8467126)
I know there have been a few threads recently about the disparity between flights from the UK to Oz being cheaper than heading the other way. There was a detailed reply from someone explaining why this was so, and, try as I might, I still couldn't REALLY get my head round the argument 100%.
Current fare (May departure) on Emirates PER - LHR return = £1,202. Other direction (same days) £598. Don't kid me someone isn't making a killing here ! No wonder WA residents never go anyhwere. Too damned expensive!! I'd have thought that this disparity would have improved over the last 12 months. The AU$ is strong against every currency in the world theoretically making imports (incl intl airfares) cheaper. Not so apparently. Even stuff imported from the US$ zones around the world has not got any cheaper, viz. Bacardi, Corona, tequila, rum...just the same price as 2 years ago when it was 0.65 rather than the current 0.92 US$ exchange rate. Not to mention how expensive drinking out is...$10 for a bottle of Corona...that's £6.25 to us Brits (OK the exchange rate doesnt help!). $2 MORE expensive than a year ago when the AU$ was worth 25% LESS against the US$ than it is now!! Nearly choked on my slice of lime!! :thumbdown: Aussies are now conditioned to overpaying for most airfares - start charging £598 * 1.7, say A$1000 and that sounds so much cheaper than £598 in the other direction - heck, there were times last year when my client was having to pay more than that to get me from Melbourne to Darwin at back - much more! They're running a business - they'll set the fares to achieve the best combination of load factor & profit - can't blame them for that. Now talking of rip offs - I stayed at the Medina Grand in Sydney this week: Minibar prices: Can Premix G&T $12 40g Maltesers $7.50 :eek: ...I managed to abstain! |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Isn't a lot of the flight traffic fly in/fly out workers.
Most people I know in Perth hardly travel, perhaps a Bali holiday or a shopping trip to Melbourne. It is expensive to fly, especially when you add on the flight taxes x 4. The only people I know travelling lots are the cashed up Baby Boomers, spending their kids inheritance :rofl: Everything is rip off here but that what happens when base wages are high, you can't have it all. If you earn and don't spend and go nowhere then you're laughing. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by pomtastic
(Post 8467179)
Isn't a lot of the flight traffic fly in/fly out workers.
Most people I know in Perth hardly travel, perhaps a Bali holiday or a shopping trip to Melbourne. It is expensive to fly, especially when you add on the flight taxes x 4. The only people I know travelling lots are the cashed up Baby Boomers, spending their kids inheritance :rofl: Everything is rip off here but that what happens when base wages are high, you can't have it all. If you earn and don't spend and go nowhere then you're laughing. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by mulben
(Post 8467198)
Flight taxes have to be in the airfare price , not added on, so what is quoted is the actual price. Most I know do a lot of flying and there are those special Air Asia flights which are very cheap - return UK under $800 (just mucking around with connections can be a hassle ) or occasionally $358 one way
they (Air Asia) have an awful record for reliability and you never get your money back even if it's their fault you missed the flight. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8467162)
Sure the airfare thing is annoying, but it really is a case of supply and demand - the complication, and what makes airfares different from other physical products is that an airline has to work out how most efficiently to fill seats from every market along the way.
Aussies are now conditioned to overpaying for most airfares - start charging £598 * 1.7, say A$1000 and that sounds so much cheaper than £598 in the other direction - heck, there were times last year when my client was having to pay more than that to get me from Melbourne to Darwin at back - much more! They're running a business - they'll set the fares to achieve the best combination of load factor & profit - can't blame them for that. Now talking of rip offs - I stayed at the Medina Grand in Sydney this week: Minibar prices: Can Premix G&T $12 40g Maltesers $7.50 :eek: ...I managed to abstain! Perth biggest increase in traffic...probably the Brits coming here on holiday coz the airfare's so cheap....and immigrants !! (Not so cheap when u get here tho!). More likely to be the huge increase in FIFO mines as stated elsewhere. The only Aussies I know going to Europe are cashed up from mining or on the back of mining. That's where the money is. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8467162)
Sure the airfare thing is annoying, but it really is a case of supply and demand - the complication, and what makes airfares different from other physical products is that an airline has to work out how most efficiently to fill seats from every market along the way.
Aussies are now conditioned to overpaying for most airfares - start charging £598 * 1.7, say A$1000 and that sounds so much cheaper than £598 in the other direction - heck, there were times last year when my client was having to pay more than that to get me from Melbourne to Darwin at back - much more! They're running a business - they'll set the fares to achieve the best combination of load factor & profit - can't blame them for that. Now talking of rip offs - I stayed at the Medina Grand in Sydney this week: Minibar prices: Can Premix G&T $12 40g Maltesers $7.50 :eek: ...I managed to abstain! Out of idle interest, how much did you pay for the room per night? |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by The Bloke
(Post 8467303)
Just by the name, I guess the Medina Grand caters for the well-heeled traveller, who would consider $12.50 per can, petty cash.
Out of idle interest, how much did you pay for the room per night? |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by mulben
(Post 8467198)
Flight taxes have to be in the airfare price , not added on, so what is quoted is the actual price. Most I know do a lot of flying and there are those special Air Asia flights which are very cheap - return UK under $800 (just mucking around with connections can be a hassle ) or occasionally $358 one way
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Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8467308)
No it's not all that....was $175/night. Cheap(ish) for Sydney CBD.
BTW, how big was the can mls and what's G &T? So I can get a rough idea. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by BATS666
(Post 8467260)
I just dont buy that. The demand is exactly the same....same flight, same seat, same airline, double the price. I can understand the maximising profit thing but DOUBLE the airfare ???
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Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by The Bloke
(Post 8467315)
Fair comment.
BTW, how big was the can mls and what's G &T? So I can get a rough idea. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by bcworld
(Post 8467332)
375 ml premix Gin & Tonic.
I was at the Quest East St Kilda from last Tuesday, and they had 375 Jack Daniels/Jim Beam and Cola for $24 a six pack, and that was delivered to suite. |
Re: Oz rip off flight prices......and other stuff
Originally Posted by The Bloke
(Post 8467350)
That is expensive. :scaredhair:
I was at the Quest East St Kilda from last Tuesday, and they had 375 Jack Daniels/Jim Beam and Cola for $24 a six pack, and that was delivered to suite. The same G&T costs $7.50 on Virginblue....so the Medina price is pretty outrageous...I think I was more shocked by the Maltesers tbh! |
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