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JenniGee Mar 24th 2010 1:33 am

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 
Can I suggest creating yourself a couple of accounts & doing a "dummy run" with the online grocery shopping services...should give you a fairly realistic comparison with what you are currently spending :)

http://www.coles.com.au/
http://www.woolworths.com.au/wps/wcm...te/Woolworths/

Deancm Mar 24th 2010 10:08 am

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 8435977)
Less than 10 bucks for a parmie and a pot is good.

It probably tastes like it cost less than 10 bucks as well.

Ruthyman Mar 24th 2010 12:57 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 
[QUOTE=BadgeIsBack;8444274]It's not all bad news mate. The sum total of 7 years living in Australia and reading these forums:

Actually, there are several people that do well in Australia.

Not bad out of 22,282,890

ABCDiamond Mar 24th 2010 1:26 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by Ruthyman (Post 8446452)
Not bad out of 22,282,890

And don't forget the "net overseas migration of 297,400 people, for the year ended September 2009'

Getting a few who hate the place out of that many, must be expected..

Ruthyman Mar 24th 2010 1:35 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8446528)
And don't forget the "net overseas migration of 297,400 people, for the year ended September 2009'

Getting a few who hate the place out of that many, must be expected..

Not so say people hate Australia, but many do better elsewhere, and I wouldnt quibble about that if I had a family to feed. BTW I prefer to make my own cheesecake :-p

Ruthyman Mar 24th 2010 1:37 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by Ruthyman (Post 8446548)
Not so say people hate Australia, but many do better elsewhere, and I wouldnt quibble about that if I had a family to feed. BTW I prefer to make my own cheesecake :-p

Some are only temp visa and when the work runs out they go back to their old lives/jobs. Lucky them - I know others lured out here on fabulous wages/conditions which ends up in redundancy - one within a matter of months.

pomtastic Mar 24th 2010 3:53 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by JAJ (Post 8435216)

How will your kids buy a house? By studying hard, then working hard, and saving up until they can afford one.

This is excellent advice JAJ! My kids are going to have to be doctors or lawyers to be able to afford a house in a bogan suburb if house prices keep on outstripping wage inflation. Also, they'll need a partner who is also on high income.

You do know that people have to work twice as many hours to pay of an average home compared to 10 years ago. In 10 - 20 years time, if prices keep going up then I'm sure my educated kids will bugger off and set up home in some other country. It will be the same reason why so many Poms came here 10+ years ago, because housing was cheap relative to incomes.

Australia is a great place BUT only for those who have little or no mortgage, get paid tons as cost of living has skyrocketed.

joydot Mar 24th 2010 6:42 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 
sometimes i think we all missed the boat and should be looking into places like vietnam, rural china, south america etc. they are where oz was 30 years ago - strange, behind, exotic, cheap...

ABCDiamond Mar 24th 2010 7:15 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by pomtastic (Post 8446750)
You do know that people have to work twice as many hours to pay of an average home compared to 10 years ago.

That is something that I didn't know, and still don't.


Average Male Full Time Earnings NSW
May-1999 $ 899.60
May-2009 $1,353.00
  • up 50% in 10 years

Average NSW First Home Mortgage
Jan-Dec 1999 $160,378
Jan-Dec 2009 $292,734
  • up 83% in 10 years


Average Mortage Repayments
In 1999 $1,124.33 per month or 29% of monthly gross
In 2009 $2,052.21 per month or 35% of monthly gross
  • Mortgage has increased by 21% (as proportion of gross pay) in the last 10 years
Not exactly double. However, some cases may be, although the average isn't.

Another thing not taken into account, in the above...
TAX
In 1999 the average wage earner lost 27% of the gross in tax.
In 2009 the average wage earner lost 21% of the gross in tax.
  • Total Tax take on average wage has decreased by 21% in the last 10 years

Also...
Average House Sizes
A report by BIS Shrapnel has quoted the 1999 floorspace size as 228.1 square metres, and its latest figures are 253.1 square metres.
  • Houses sizes have increased by 11% in the last 10 years

ABCDiamond Mar 24th 2010 7:18 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by Ruthyman (Post 8446548)
Not so say people hate Australia

Some have previously said they do. (including me, at one stage :D )

joydot Mar 24th 2010 7:51 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 
woohoo, diamonds getting rough!

interesting detail though....

Tr1boy Mar 24th 2010 7:54 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Is oz as attractive as it was?
Are you suggesting it ever was attractive? :blink:

Pollyana Mar 24th 2010 8:17 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by Tr1boy (Post 8447151)
Are you suggesting it ever was attractive? :blink:

Scary idea isn't it! :eek:

pproehann Mar 24th 2010 9:06 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by joydot (Post 8447035)
sometimes i think we all missed the boat and should be looking into places like vietnam, rural china, south america etc. they are where oz was 30 years ago - strange, behind, exotic, cheap...

50 years behind UK then?

BadgeIsBack Mar 24th 2010 11:12 pm

Re: Is oz as attractive as it was?
 

Originally Posted by rinkerdink (Post 8444390)
Badge,

Thanks a bunch, I do forget that people can be a bit intolerant but i find a broader range of negative stuff on this forum (compared to others) - bracing myself to be told to f@ck off to the other one then! I probably won't now I've said this but hey.

I would put myself firmly in the list of those that enjoy it based on your parameters, can't wait to sip that first ice cold crap beer, get burned within an inch of my life and whine about the supermarkets and officialdom.

You have lifted my day thanks!

Well be careful because the people who come unstuck are often the people who were neutral initially and there's a middle area of people who often end up hating it or loving it - no middle ground after all..


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