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Old Jan 29th 2005, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by wmoore
At the very least castration.....
I suppose reluctantly i'd agree with that, if my option wasn't available, but using the two bricks method.

Unfortunately you just can't tell these people from normal humans until it's too late. I employed someone for about 2 years once, then one day he didn't come to work, and I found out he had been arrested for this very thing, and later convicted and imprisoned. It makes me shudder to think about it, as my baby daughter at the time was often in close proximity. You can imagine my thoughts, asking myself "had he ever been alone with her ?", but fortunately I am 100% sure he hadn't.
 
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Thankfully the European Union and Oz are civilised enough to not have the death penalty. Prevention of child abuse should be the focus, not the desire for revenge. Sad fact is that most child abuse is done by a known family member, not an outsider.

The problem with releasing photos of child molesters is that it can send them into hiding and somewhere unbeknown to the police. Best to keep an eye on them because they will always be in someones neighbourhood.

The I'm tougher on crime brigade will not prevent my freedom of speech.
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Old Jan 29th 2005, 5:51 am
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Thankfully the European Union and Oz are civilised enough to not have the death penalty. Prevention of child abuse should be the focus, not the desire for revenge. Sad fact is that most child abuse is done by a known family member, not an outsider.

The problem with releasing photos of child molesters is that it can send them into hiding and somewhere unbeknown to the police. Best to keep an eye on them because they will always be in someones neighbourhood.

The I'm tougher on crime brigade will not prevent my freedom of speech.
Child abuse has a much wider scale than just sexual abuse. On the same theme, being in possession of child pornography etc like the sick bastards in Dagboy's article doesnt mean you have to have abused a child. So where does that leave them in the statistics?

And how do you prevent sexual abuse better than by locking up offenders never to be released?

I agree with Sam, they know damn well its wrong - sorry, but theres NO excuse for it.

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Old Jan 29th 2005, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by DagBoy
Glittababe - you or hubby might want to contact the Qld police if you can remember more about the person you saw taking pics. Cheers,
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Agree wholeheartedly - and even if you cannot remember the weasel's features then at least it puts them on alert that there is some nasty git out there who is being active at the moment. Taking a picture of the git taking a picture of your children, mentioned by someone else, is a great idea.

I just find it incomprehensible that men (and it virtually always is a man), get their kicks from this sort of thing. It's an old cliche but; "lock 'em up and throw away the key, gets my vote".
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Old Jan 29th 2005, 7:18 am
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Why not take a picture of those taking the pictures? We visit Southbank regularly and will not stop but the recent news articles will put us on guard.

While not attempting to condone their actions of these people, it should be remembered that MAYBE some people have a LEGITIMATE reason for photographing kids and/or people in swimmers. It would be unfair to these people if they are subject to the embarrassing scrutinary of the police, if a photo you took was handed to them. It opens up a Pandora's Box. I think you would not like it if someone did it to you for innocently taking photos of your family - I certainly wouldn't.

As I have said this DOES NOT excuse their actions if they are guilty of any form of child abuse, but what if we are wrong just that one time?

Someone else said "Kill them all", I think his name was Adolf, and look what happened there!
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Old Jan 29th 2005, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Child abuse has a much wider scale than just sexual abuse. On the same theme, being in possession of child pornography etc like the sick bastards in Dagboy's article doesnt mean you have to have abused a child. So where does that leave them in the statistics?

And how do you prevent sexual abuse better than by locking up offenders never to be released?

I agree with Sam, they know damn well its wrong - sorry, but theres NO excuse for it.

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Yes, it is wrong, as I have said before I do not condone their actions.

The problem with locking all of them up though is the large economic cost on the community as a whole and overcrowding of prisons. The alternative is very much like the Nazi's tried to do to Jews, gypsies, homosexuals etc. Two wrongs unfortunately don't make a right. Maybe in the future there can be some drug to curtail thier fantasies.
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Old Jan 29th 2005, 7:44 am
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Yes, it is wrong, as I have said before I do not condone their actions.

The problem with locking all of them up though is the large economic cost on the community as a whole and overcrowding of prisons. The alternative is very much like the Nazi's tried to do to Jews, gypsies, homosexuals etc. Two wrongs unfortunately don't make a right. Maybe in the future there can be some drug to curtail thier fantasies.
I'm not 100% sure but I think that is the purpose of chemical castration which I believe takes the form of an injection. I think repeat sex offenders in the States can voluteer for the procedure which apparently totally supresses sexual urges.

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Old Jan 29th 2005, 7:54 am
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I'm not 100% sure but I think that is the purpose of chemical castration which I believe takes the form of an injection. I think repeat sex offenders in the States can voluteer for the procedure which apparently totally supresses sexual urges.

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At least they then acknowledge they have a problem.
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At least they then acknowledge they have a problem.
It certainly gives you a lot to think about. Its very difficult as my children love the beach, southbank and the water parks. Do you stop them going because of this risk? We have checked the videos we took that day and sure enough the man concerned is on there, be it in the distance but you can see the distinguishing features. Will contact Qld police and let them see vid for themselves, they can make the decision then.
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Old Jan 29th 2005, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Child abuse has a much wider scale than just sexual abuse. On the same theme, being in possession of child pornography etc like the sick bastards in Dagboy's article doesnt mean you have to have abused a child. So where does that leave them in the statistics?

And how do you prevent sexual abuse better than by locking up offenders never to be released?

I agree with Sam, they know damn well its wrong - sorry, but theres NO excuse for it.

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At least with locking up there is a chance for incorrectly applied justice to be corrected. The death penalty does not leave that chance.

The danger of putting people in prison who have possessed but not abused is leaving them in contact with hard core abusers. Prison is a known to be a training camp for criminals.
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