dave99

I never had any problem with getting access to 18+content here in australia

I also am able to watch all the latest UK TV shows like eastenders, corrie, dr who etc
Oh and of course all the USA ones, bit torrent is your friend !

Catch

oooohhh yess

Suet

hehehe yes if only it was that simply.

got he's mum on the case now with the "wouldn't you rather have the sun, sea and life style with these restrictions than the UK"

Tableland

While I am concerned about this, I consider the erosion of civil liberties in the UK is much more widespread. See Privacy International for some figures on this. The UK is very much one of the worse places in the Western world to live in terms of government surveillance. Also, here he will need to carry identity papers sooner, but these won't come into Australia for a while yet because of the ALP's (fake) opposition to them.

Tableland

Because you don't know if you're doing anything wrong or not, and they can change the definition of wrong whenever they like and apply retrospective legislation.

Tableland

If by free we agree to define it as pretty much what we had up to roundabout now (pre identity papers, pre surveillance cameras everywhere, etc.) I would argue that there will be no free nations by 2050. The thing is, there will also be no people left who remember what free nations were like, so it will make no difference as their concept of free will have been redefined by the new governance.

We are lucky to have lived in these times, when government knew it was there to serve the people. This is all changing.

Racht70

Excellent post My opinion exactly

donna

But still a f#%@ker for his family if they dont hold the same values

MartinLuther

To be frank the whole euthanasia/internet thing is not worth worrying about for several reasons:

a) The filter thing probably wont work.
b) Putting euthanasia on the black list has not been proposed by the government. It has been proposed by a couple of left field MPs who are not in government.
c) If euthanasia made it onto the list. I assume it'll be treated like the current items on the black list (e.g. drugs). Sites are not allowed to give detailed instruction on the thing (i.e. how to make an illegal drug) but discussion of the subject is not banned.
d) Talk about these things being banned has not come from the government it has come from the chattering classes. These people are not actually running the country and most of them are sourpuss liberals still in a strop about the ALP win.
e) Aus is more democratic than the UK so you (or rather the people) have more chances/opportunity of changing things.

Unlike the UK, which seems to drive political ideas through regardless (i.e. the dome, poll tax, ID cards, etc.) Aus/Vic does have a habit of mooting something and then dropping it if it's not a good idea (i.e. taxing/charging for water use from private supplies, banning communism, ID cards, etc.). Personally I think the filtering will be dropped or, in the unlikely event it works, it'll be watered down.

In 1992 the High Court confirmed that free speech for political communications is inherent (if not explicit) in the constitution. Their take on it, is that free speech is necessary to meet the provision of the constitution that says the federal government is a representative democracy.

Personally I find Aus less of a nanny state than the UK (and it was demonstrated in a thread on here that Vic has less regulation than the UK). It may be different in Queensland or NSW but I don't have any experience of living there.

Don't listen to people saying it is illegal to change plugs here. Although this may be true (or not) in Queensland; this is definitely not true in Vic. I suspect it's not true in Queensland but Brits that have been duped need to dupe the newbies so they don't feel embarrassed.

Don't worry about the porn. It is not illegal to posses or watch porn. Even if the filter works your OH would not be liable to criminal charges for watching porn on the internet (or elsewhere).

Tableland

This is quite right. I believe in WA they're going to get a referendum on daylight saving, whereas in the UK we didn't even get one on the Lisbon Treaty - a fundamental sovereignty issue, which is absolutely outrageous. The difference in governance between the two nations is large, IMO. Australia is very much a "bottom up" society, or aspires to be, but Britain never really got over its feudal hierarchy stage, so is quite "top down" in many important respects.

Right now I'm praying the ALP don't import the same nasty ideas into Australia that their brethren in the UK did (New Labour). If they don't, then we'll be OK.

hanwilt

Hi,

I caught up with this thread yesterday and have been thinking about it over the day and I would like to add my piece too.

Firstly although I agree with the concept of euthanasia as a power of choice I will not stop myself moving to a country because they as a whole don't I don't think one issue can be a life altering decision.

Secondly though when making the decision to move to the opposite side of the world away from most of your friends and family, uprooting the family from what they know etc it has to be the positives of gaining from the move not what you are running from. If you are running then I think you are less likely to be successful. It has to be a decision based on the bonuses the other country can offer. Like out doors, less busy, more land, their approach to sport, and for us opportunities to do the activities we like doing whilst working in the fields we are both successful in. We would love to live in devon but couldn't afford to live there and earn and actually see each other. If political issues cloud all judgements of other bonuses then actually I think that is quite sad because we are never going to agree with all politicians all of the time and they always move on -eventually- and policies change.

In america they have social policies have changed back and forwards like yoyos depending on who is in power