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Ianevs Jan 5th 2011 7:58 pm

Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
Just wondering has anyone obtained a mortgage without permanent residency or citizenship,thanks

northernbird Jan 5th 2011 8:10 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Ianevs (Post 9081279)
Just wondering has anyone obtained a mortgage without permanent residency or citizenship,thanks

Yes we obtained a mortgage whilst on a 457 visa. It was 5 years ago so I can't say whether the banks still do it.

spottydog Jan 6th 2011 10:17 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
The best thing is to find a mortgage broker with experience in mortgages for temporary residents. It is possible but there isn't as much choice as there is for PRs or citizens

Red_V_Roger Jan 6th 2011 1:11 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
We went with Westpac (as we had been banking with them) whilst on our 457 and they never asked about visa status, nor did we we have to sign anything about visa status.

We did have a very big deposit, so may be they thought it was low risk and and the Westpac mortgage woman just wanted her easy commission.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 6th 2011 1:26 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9083101)
We went with Westpac (as we had been banking with them) whilst on our 457 and they never asked about visa status, nor did we we have to sign anything about visa status.

We did have a very big deposit, so may be they thought it was low risk and and the Westpac mortgage woman just wanted her easy commission.

Substitute Comm Bank for Westpac and you have our story as well.

Melbourne bound Mark Jan 6th 2011 3:33 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
Yes,

we went with HSBC - you need a 20% deposit which I think is the same across all banks.

Dreamy Jan 6th 2011 7:47 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by spottydog (Post 9082832)
The best thing is to find a mortgage broker with experience in mortgages for temporary residents. It is possible but there isn't as much choice as there is for PRs or citizens

Our bank (Commonwealth) wasn't the slightest bit interested in our migrant status and were happy to give us two mortgages while we were on a 457. You have more problems getting a credit card.

Our first mortgage we had at least 20% deposit - the second (as we were waiting to sell the first when we moved interstate) we didn't - they were still happy but we had to pay the mortgage insurance.

Hotton Jan 7th 2011 7:38 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
Dont want to be the party pooper but could something like Duty of disclosure present a problem if the shite hit the fan, as the question is asked on most applications for almost any credit or insurance ,:confused:

LittleKittyCat Jan 7th 2011 8:38 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
We went through a broker for our mortgage (on a 457), and went with ANZ. We had a big deposit (50%) and they wanted all of our visa details etc. Maybe it varies from bank to bank.

Red_V_Roger Jan 7th 2011 8:56 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Hotton (Post 9084831)
Dont want to be the party pooper but could something like Duty of disclosure present a problem if the shite hit the fan, as the question is asked on most applications for almost any credit or insurance ,:confused:

No question on the Westpac forms. Wouldn't have tried to hide truth if I had been asked or needed to sign otherwise.

Dreamy Jan 7th 2011 9:06 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Hotton (Post 9084831)
Dont want to be the party pooper but could something like Duty of disclosure present a problem if the shite hit the fan, as the question is asked on most applications for almost any credit or insurance ,:confused:

The bank knew our migrant status, it just wasn't any kind of issue for them.

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jan 7th 2011 9:09 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 9084965)
The bank knew our migrant status, it just wasn't any kind of issue for them.

Yep, they don't care. It's harder to get a personal loan or credit card than it is a mortgage. I assume the banks work on the basis that you can't really run off with the house, so if you can't pay or do a runner, they still have the asset.

Hotton Jan 7th 2011 10:56 am

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 
Backpacker finance what next :) i would say more of a loophole I wonder if
it could be said to be in some cases an overseas investment ????????

Red_V_Roger Jan 7th 2011 1:40 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Hotton (Post 9085197)
Backpacker finance what next :) i would say more of a loophole I wonder if
it could be said to be in some cases an overseas investment ????????

Not since FIRB approval requirement was removed in Feb 2009 for temp visa holders buying the single property they will live in.

Temp visa holders buying a second property or investment home is a whole other issue under FIRB rules.

spottydog Jan 7th 2011 2:45 pm

Re: Obtaining mortgage without PR
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 9085488)
Not since FIRB approval requirement was removed in Feb 2009 for temp visa holders buying the single property they will live in.

Temp visa holders buying a second property or investment home is a whole other issue under FIRB rules.

I think this requirement was reinstated last year and temporary residents have to again get FIRB approval


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