nz hospitals
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nz hospitals
Has anyone been offered any relocation incentives by NZ hospitals?
OZ hospitals seem to offer paid flights and visa applications but I have not found a NZ hospital vacancy that advertised this?
Can anyone help?
Thanks
OZ hospitals seem to offer paid flights and visa applications but I have not found a NZ hospital vacancy that advertised this?
Can anyone help?
Thanks
#2
Quite possibly because they don't have the cash. Auckland District Health Board expects a mere $55 million deficit this year.
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Ah! That would explain it! Thanks for the reply. It sounds a little like my bank account!
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People complain about the UK NHS, but the NZ system is appaling - they simply don't have the money to pay their staff a decent wage. There have been several high profile strikes by nursing staff (most notably in Christchurch) and by Radiologists in Auckland recently. Rates of pay for nursing/med school grads are so bad (don't forget the huge student loans they have to pay off as well!) that large numbers leave for Oz or the UK where they can earn a better wage.
What you suggest is a good idea though - if health boards did a bit of lateral thinking and advertised for staff in the UK or elsewhere, with incentives like paid flights/help with permit applications they would most certainly get highly qualified and experienced staff, most of whom would be prepared to take a lower salary because they want a better lifestyle. A friend of mine works in paediatrics at waitakere hospital, he said the low pay doesn't bother him...he loves his job & wanted to get out of the UK...said that money always came second!
What you suggest is a good idea though - if health boards did a bit of lateral thinking and advertised for staff in the UK or elsewhere, with incentives like paid flights/help with permit applications they would most certainly get highly qualified and experienced staff, most of whom would be prepared to take a lower salary because they want a better lifestyle. A friend of mine works in paediatrics at waitakere hospital, he said the low pay doesn't bother him...he loves his job & wanted to get out of the UK...said that money always came second!
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Wellington offering me $3000.
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Do they actually have a hospital in Welly? thought it was just a first aid post dispensing Panadol & Plasters?
Russ
(NB this reply was meant Very tongue in cheek!!!)
Russ
(NB this reply was meant Very tongue in cheek!!!)
#7
Did anybody see that dozens of UK policemen were recruited en mass to emigrate to Auckland. They have to stay there for 2 years before moving on, but essentially they had this massive support group and they all did the paperwork and the move etc together. The first lot are I think in the middle of their conversion training course now.
So this type of lateral thinking has been used before.
Maybe they should do the same for nursing and other key professions.
So this type of lateral thinking has been used before.
Maybe they should do the same for nursing and other key professions.
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and now for some useful info
contrary to britboys oh so accurate info who by the way is contributing to the problem by moving to one of the worlds fastest growing cities, i can tell you hospital depts throughout the country do advertise internationally - check your specialist journal/magazine, back pages of med magazines are almost always dedicated to recruitment.
yes they almost always reimburse relocation expenses (flights, freight, sometimes accomodation for 2-4 weeks) and you should always try to negotiate to cover reasonable costs anyway.
yes new grads start on lower salary, this reflects their experience. pay jumps up each year in set increments and may plataeu anywhere from 5-10 years.
medical salaries stagnated after the international finance crash in 80's naturally the govt wouldn't pay anymore than they had to. with so many migrating to the cities (auckland perfect example)driving up basic costs of living (eg housing) and populating cities where infrastructure couldn't be built fast enough, the system suffers & likewise pay didnt increase proportionally so good on the various groups for striking - its a basic workers right which is often 'illegal' in other unionised western democracies.
i also find internationally, net income doesn't differ as dramatically as the gross counterpart.
i cant work out why you want to leave crime, unemployment, healthcare problems & all the rest people whine about only to move to the biggest cities in australasia which have all the same issues.
do the system a favour and don't move to the big cities.
yes they almost always reimburse relocation expenses (flights, freight, sometimes accomodation for 2-4 weeks) and you should always try to negotiate to cover reasonable costs anyway.
yes new grads start on lower salary, this reflects their experience. pay jumps up each year in set increments and may plataeu anywhere from 5-10 years.
medical salaries stagnated after the international finance crash in 80's naturally the govt wouldn't pay anymore than they had to. with so many migrating to the cities (auckland perfect example)driving up basic costs of living (eg housing) and populating cities where infrastructure couldn't be built fast enough, the system suffers & likewise pay didnt increase proportionally so good on the various groups for striking - its a basic workers right which is often 'illegal' in other unionised western democracies.
i also find internationally, net income doesn't differ as dramatically as the gross counterpart.
i cant work out why you want to leave crime, unemployment, healthcare problems & all the rest people whine about only to move to the biggest cities in australasia which have all the same issues.
do the system a favour and don't move to the big cities.
Last edited by travelling_kiwi; Jun 26th 2003 at 5:58 pm.
#10
I have been offered a job with taranaki district health board. i asked if they offered any relocation package but all they will give is one weeks motel accomodation. Ah well!!!
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Any relocation package is incidental. I just wondered why Australia can make such huge packages when both countries are desperate for nursing staff. The recruitment agency that we are currently with are pushing us towards the cities - even though we are pushing for a different region and you feel that you should heed their advice.
Although saying that, they will probably get paid more from the hospitals in the city.
But I would have thought that offering an overseas nurse a package would be cheaper than paying the huge fees that agencies cost.
Although saying that, they will probably get paid more from the hospitals in the city.
But I would have thought that offering an overseas nurse a package would be cheaper than paying the huge fees that agencies cost.