NVQ Recognition
May 21st 2004, 4:04 pm
#1
Carramar Perth
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NVQ Recognition
Hi to you all
I have a question regarding qualifications. We r applying for a 139 designated Sponsored Visa
My 16 year old son is currently on an apprenticeship between a Hubbys Comp and the CITB. He should have his NVQ Level 1 by September 2004 and hopefull NVQ Level 2 by July 2005.
Ideally we would like to wait for him to complete his Level 2 before we move to OZ if we r lucky enough to get Visa. Awaiting TRA approval at the moment, Hoping to send Visa App off Early Aug 2004.
My question is how does Australia view NVQ qualifications, would he have to start training from scratch. I have heard that it takes 6 years to train as a Wall & Floor Tiler in Oz. Would they only Recognise Level 3 maybe?
When we visited Perth in Feb 2004 we spoke to some owners of Tile Shops and they said my son would have to work for Hubby until he was 18.
Can anyone advise me as to how these things work in Oz
Many thanks
Springo
I have a question regarding qualifications. We r applying for a 139 designated Sponsored Visa
My 16 year old son is currently on an apprenticeship between a Hubbys Comp and the CITB. He should have his NVQ Level 1 by September 2004 and hopefull NVQ Level 2 by July 2005.
Ideally we would like to wait for him to complete his Level 2 before we move to OZ if we r lucky enough to get Visa. Awaiting TRA approval at the moment, Hoping to send Visa App off Early Aug 2004.
My question is how does Australia view NVQ qualifications, would he have to start training from scratch. I have heard that it takes 6 years to train as a Wall & Floor Tiler in Oz. Would they only Recognise Level 3 maybe?
When we visited Perth in Feb 2004 we spoke to some owners of Tile Shops and they said my son would have to work for Hubby until he was 18.
Can anyone advise me as to how these things work in Oz
Many thanks
Springo
May 21st 2004, 8:56 pm
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I don't think they recognise NVQ's but I'm sure I've read somewhere that City & Guilds are recognised(Wierd
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May 21st 2004, 9:18 pm
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Im on the same "boat" i have an NVQ Level 2 in IT and imnot sure it is recognised is Oz.
May 21st 2004, 9:19 pm
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Re: NVQ Recognition
Originally posted by Springo
Hi to you all
I have a question regarding qualifications. We r applying for a 139 designated Sponsored Visa
My 16 year old son is currently on an apprenticeship between a Hubbys Comp and the CITB. He should have his NVQ Level 1 by September 2004 and hopefull NVQ Level 2 by July 2005.
Ideally we would like to wait for him to complete his Level 2 before we move to OZ if we r lucky enough to get Visa. Awaiting TRA approval at the moment, Hoping to send Visa App off Early Aug 2004.
My question is how does Australia view NVQ qualifications, would he have to start training from scratch. I have heard that it takes 6 years to train as a Wall & Floor Tiler in Oz. Would they only Recognise Level 3 maybe?
When we visited Perth in Feb 2004 we spoke to some owners of Tile Shops and they said my son would have to work for Hubby until he was 18.
Can anyone advise me as to how these things work in Oz
Many thanks
Springo
Hi to you all
I have a question regarding qualifications. We r applying for a 139 designated Sponsored Visa
My 16 year old son is currently on an apprenticeship between a Hubbys Comp and the CITB. He should have his NVQ Level 1 by September 2004 and hopefull NVQ Level 2 by July 2005.
Ideally we would like to wait for him to complete his Level 2 before we move to OZ if we r lucky enough to get Visa. Awaiting TRA approval at the moment, Hoping to send Visa App off Early Aug 2004.
My question is how does Australia view NVQ qualifications, would he have to start training from scratch. I have heard that it takes 6 years to train as a Wall & Floor Tiler in Oz. Would they only Recognise Level 3 maybe?
When we visited Perth in Feb 2004 we spoke to some owners of Tile Shops and they said my son would have to work for Hubby until he was 18.
Can anyone advise me as to how these things work in Oz
Many thanks
Springo
Kind Regards
ACE
May 22nd 2004, 4:40 pm
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They definately recognise NVQ L3 for immigration purposes, so I would imagine that employers would too.
You, were very lucky then because my skills assessment originally failed because the skills assessor didn't recognise my NVQ 3..yes I know hard to believe!..
Anyway, all was well after a phone call explaining to them that they stopped C&Guilds in my trade from about 1992. Now in my CV/Resume I put in my NVQ 3 but also in brackets I put in what Australian qualification it is equavilent to. It seems to help enourmously.
Let's face it if the officials don't really recognise it then how can expect Aussie employers to.
Wenz
You, were very lucky then because my skills assessment originally failed because the skills assessor didn't recognise my NVQ 3..yes I know hard to believe!..
Anyway, all was well after a phone call explaining to them that they stopped C&Guilds in my trade from about 1992. Now in my CV/Resume I put in my NVQ 3 but also in brackets I put in what Australian qualification it is equavilent to. It seems to help enourmously.
Let's face it if the officials don't really recognise it then how can expect Aussie employers to.
Wenz
May 22nd 2004, 5:04 pm
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According to my certificates City and Guilds rub NVQ's or some of them, of course mine are horicultural, cant speak for other trades.
I was told NVQ 3 is eqivilent to Cert 4.
I was told NVQ 3 is eqivilent to Cert 4.
May 22nd 2004, 7:09 pm
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Originally posted by Lathlain
According to my certificates City and Guilds rub NVQ's or some of them, of course mine are horicultural, cant speak for other trades.
I was told NVQ 3 is eqivilent to Cert 4.
According to my certificates City and Guilds rub NVQ's or some of them, of course mine are horicultural, cant speak for other trades.
I was told NVQ 3 is eqivilent to Cert 4.
Thanks for all your replys to my thread
It looks like we shouldn't worry about delaying our departure for son to complete Level 2 then.
Perhaps he will have to start again in Oz.
I don't think he is going to be too chuffed about that.
Springo
May 25th 2004, 11:13 am
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Originally posted by Wenz
They definately recognise NVQ L3 for immigration purposes, so I would imagine that employers would too.
You, were very lucky then because my skills assessment originally failed because the skills assessor didn't recognise my NVQ 3..yes I know hard to believe!..
Anyway, all was well after a phone call explaining to them that they stopped C&Guilds in my trade from about 1992. Now in my CV/Resume I put in my NVQ 3 but also in brackets I put in what Australian qualification it is equavilent to. It seems to help enourmously.
Let's face it if the officials don't really recognise it then how can expect Aussie employers to.
Wenz
They definately recognise NVQ L3 for immigration purposes, so I would imagine that employers would too.
You, were very lucky then because my skills assessment originally failed because the skills assessor didn't recognise my NVQ 3..yes I know hard to believe!..
Anyway, all was well after a phone call explaining to them that they stopped C&Guilds in my trade from about 1992. Now in my CV/Resume I put in my NVQ 3 but also in brackets I put in what Australian qualification it is equavilent to. It seems to help enourmously.
Let's face it if the officials don't really recognise it then how can expect Aussie employers to.
Wenz
We haven't actually applied yet but we are relying on the word of a migration agent at Ian Harrop.
Hopefully my hubby will be accepted as he works in the very specialised field of Process control Operations in the oil refining industry his NVQ is in PCO and this is offered as a City & Guilds qualification. in the event of any problems we would be able to get in on my qualifications, I graduate from my Bsc Hons in Computing next week, but by the time I have completed my Post Grad Cert Ed and my induction our plans would have been put back by a year or so as we would not be able to apply until 2006.
I'm glad it worked out for you in the end.
Kind regards
ACE
May 25th 2004, 7:00 pm
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The Pork Pie man!
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Hi Ace.
I have over 17 years of experience in Bakery Management and have scores of different qualifications including assessment and teaching qualifications( yes, I even teach it to NVQ bakery students part time in a local FE College) ..you could imagine I was floored when my skills assessment came back initally saying I 'wasn't skilled enough'. I thought jeez how bloody good do you have to be for OZ.
Anyway, I was just lucky that I got a skills assessor with the balls to go back on his initial assessment and accept my NVQ as being the new national vocational standard for certification in my trade..(so saving me a painfully long winded and expensive appeal process). The skills assessment was the hardest part I reckon ...I must have been the first Bakery Manager they'd ever had to assess Anyway alls well that ends well.
Hope you have a much easier ride through the process.
Wenz
I have over 17 years of experience in Bakery Management and have scores of different qualifications including assessment and teaching qualifications( yes, I even teach it to NVQ bakery students part time in a local FE College) ..you could imagine I was floored when my skills assessment came back initally saying I 'wasn't skilled enough'. I thought jeez how bloody good do you have to be for OZ.
Anyway, I was just lucky that I got a skills assessor with the balls to go back on his initial assessment and accept my NVQ as being the new national vocational standard for certification in my trade..(so saving me a painfully long winded and expensive appeal process). The skills assessment was the hardest part I reckon ...I must have been the first Bakery Manager they'd ever had to assess
Anyway alls well that ends well.Hope you have a much easier ride through the process.
Wenz
May 25th 2004, 7:00 pm
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The Pork Pie man!
Joined: Aug 2003
Location: Gold Coast,
Posts: 77
Hi Ace.
I have over 17 years of experience in Bakery Management and have scores of different qualifications including assessment and teaching qualifications( yes, I even teach it to NVQ bakery students part time in a local FE College) ..you could imagine I was floored when my skills assessment came back initally saying I 'wasn't skilled enough'. I thought jeez how bloody good do you have to be for OZ.
Anyway, I was just lucky that I got a skills assessor with the balls to go back on his initial assessment and accept my NVQ as being the new national vocational standard for certification in my trade..(so saving me a painfully long winded and expensive appeal process). The skills assessment was the hardest part I reckon ...I must have been the first Bakery Manager they'd ever had to assess Anyway alls well that ends well.
Hope you have a much easier ride through the process.
Wenz
I have over 17 years of experience in Bakery Management and have scores of different qualifications including assessment and teaching qualifications( yes, I even teach it to NVQ bakery students part time in a local FE College) ..you could imagine I was floored when my skills assessment came back initally saying I 'wasn't skilled enough'. I thought jeez how bloody good do you have to be for OZ.
Anyway, I was just lucky that I got a skills assessor with the balls to go back on his initial assessment and accept my NVQ as being the new national vocational standard for certification in my trade..(so saving me a painfully long winded and expensive appeal process). The skills assessment was the hardest part I reckon ...I must have been the first Bakery Manager they'd ever had to assess
Anyway alls well that ends well.Hope you have a much easier ride through the process.
Wenz
