sally1968

Currently watching what passes for entertainment - the Eurovision song contest!!!!! (Sad i know!)

As i type the UK have yet to score a single point - and Turkey are winning!!!

We can't win anything to do with sport and we can't even win a song contest!! :scared:

No, actually i stand corrected - we're good at ...... rowing!!! Hmmmm......

scoobydooathome

Yeah this is what we thought, it's nice to be popular eh !!!

Arron

And curling.

sally1968

Please accept my apologies.... Are you scottish by any chance??

scoobydooathome

We are the only one's left without any points he he he, bad new eh !!!

Arron

No, but it was the last time anyone remotely "local" won anything

scoobydooathome

Zero Points,

Now Tony, do you want to join the EURO ???

karawara88

The idiot Blair will see the fact that Europe hates UK as a reason to be in it. At least they will get PB as a consolation prize.

etlniwd

I fear that the UK is coming close to being as hated by the international community as the US is. It seems that Blair can't see what everybody else can - that he is Bush's puppet. If we are not careful then the UK will be left behind by the rest of Europe as well as becoming a permanent terrorist target.

Eurovision is a joke competition but that vote is scary. Or was the song just really really shite ?

megawho

As opposed to oz, of course
As for being left behind by europe...that includes germany, which has four and half million unemployed, and is currently in recesion? Get a sense of perspective please....

bryank

ignore megawho. he's one of those sad people returning to the UK

karawara88

it was bad but no worse than the one that won. I wanted Russia to win just for the hell of it.

megawho

actually still pondering the ups and downs of staying/leaving ....but good to see the spirit of free speech lives on in this forum

jockney

Hey hold on what about the skier on drugs?

etlniwd

That's the basis of my point. You don't pick and choose your friends on the basis of whether they are currently going through a bad patch or not. The UK Euro debate is centred on self interest. Germany has a massive price to pay for reunification. Other EU countries are currently in one of the 'dips' of the economic cycle. In comparison the UK is doing relatively well in economic terms. But you can't say we'll be part of Europe when it's doing well but not if it's going through a bad patch which seems to be the basis of the current Euro debate.

Now my personal view is that the US is shit scared of a powerful Europe. I hate to think what George has promised Tony in order to keep him onside. We all know what Australia gets out of being part of George's gang but it's probably a lot more complex with the US-UK.