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Old Feb 26th 2007, 8:07 pm
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Just heard on Sky News that the govt. has passed the bill to the citizenship act requiring 4 years as PR before you can apply for citizenship.
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Old Feb 26th 2007, 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by renth
Just heard on Sky News that the govt. has passed the bill to the citizenship act requiring 4 years as PR before you can apply for citizenship.
And here's a link:

http://www.skynews.com.au/story.asp?id=156448

ETA: And, if you're particularly bored, here's a link to the Dynamic Red from yesterday, too:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/DynamicRed/Index.html

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Old Feb 26th 2007, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Geordie George
And here's a link:

http://www.skynews.com.au/story.asp?id=156448

ETA: And, if you're particularly bored, here's a link to the Dynamic Red from yesterday, too:

http://www.aph.gov.au/senate/DynamicRed/Index.html
Does anyone know if this affects people who've already been here 6 months on PR and were planning on applying for citzenship in 2009?
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Old Feb 26th 2007, 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Pommie Granite
Does anyone know if this affects people who've already been here 6 months on PR and were planning on applying for citzenship in 2009?
Not had time to read everything yet (still way to early to be doing that!), but here's one link that might be useful:

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/law-an...irementsQA.htm
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Just have to add that if you are really serious about becoming citizens does it matter if its 2/4/10 years?

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Old Feb 26th 2007, 9:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Pommie Granite
Does anyone know if this affects people who've already been here 6 months on PR and were planning on applying for citzenship in 2009?

From web site:

Will they affect current permanent residents?
The proposed residence requirements would only apply to people who become permanent residents on or after commencement of the legislation.

People who are permanent residents before the commencement of the new legislation would only need to meet the current residence requirements (presence in Australia as a permanent resident for periods amounting to two years in the last five years including one year in the last two immediately prior to making the application) provided they applied within three years from the day the legislation commences.
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Originally Posted by Barron Fam
Just have to add that if you are really serious about becoming citizens does it matter if its 2/4/10 years?

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Of course it matters!..............to some.
PR residents don't have the right to vote. Would you want to live in a country, working and pay taxes, where you had no say in what your taxes were spent on for ten years?
Would you want to be unable to work in your chosen field because the law dictates that PR's cannot work in that employment?
How about spending ten years living in limbo because the next government may just decide to kick out all the non-nationals?
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The changes are good for me because it recognises the time I spent here as temp resident. For us it means that we only have to do 1 year as a PR before being eligible to apply. Great news.
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Originally Posted by cresta57
Of course it matters!..............to some.
PR residents don't have the right to vote. Would you want to live in a country, working and pay taxes, where you had no say in what your taxes were spent on for ten years?
Would you want to be unable to work in your chosen field because the law dictates that PR's cannot work in that employment?
How about spending ten years living in limbo because the next government may just decide to kick out all the non-nationals?
For me its just security of tenure. PR makes me nervous - kind of feel a security climate could reverse any decision.

I wanted citizenship as soon as and applied on the day I first became eligible.

Having said that, there was never any doubt as to my motive.
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Anybody know the date of implementation?
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Originally Posted by Barron Fam
Just have to add that if you are really serious about becoming citizens does it matter if its 2/4/10 years?

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Yes it does. Your prohibited from certain government jobs as a PR, cant vote and as Badge mentioned its a kind of sense of belonging and security. To finally say you are "Australian" rather than a convoluted I'm British but a PR.

That said I think its a good thing on the other hand since it might stop the peoplle who stick out two years just so they can get a blue passport when they never had any intention of staying or making contributions to the country.
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Originally Posted by windog
Anybody know the date of implementation?
I belive it is effective immediately, now that the legislation has been passed. but i am sure that someone with more knowledge that me on the subject will correct me if i'm wrong

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Old Feb 26th 2007, 9:51 pm
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Does anyone know what they class as a Permanent Resident?

Is it having a PR visa granted - or does it have to be validated - or do you have to be living in Australia?
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Originally Posted by ws99
Does anyone know what they class as a Permanent Resident?

Is it having a PR visa granted - or does it have to be validated - or do you have to be living in Australia?
If you are not already in the country you have to have lived here for 4 (full) out of 5 years from when PR visa granted to be able to apply for citizenship, or if you are already here its 2 (full) out of 5 years.

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Originally Posted by northernbird
The changes are good for me because it recognises the time I spent here as temp resident. For us it means that we only have to do 1 year as a PR before being eligible to apply. Great news.
Unless you are already a PR. In that case (as I read the website) then you will have to meet the requirements of the old legislation - i.e. 2 years as PR.

In my case, I have been here for nearly 6 years, but only PR since September, so as far as I can tell, I will not be eligible for citizenship until Sept 08.

Ah well - I was not going anywhere anyway...

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