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Old Jun 12th 2008, 11:49 am
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Well this post sure has got side tracked !
It wasn’t my intention to have a post where people complain about what is wrong with Australia, there’s plenty of posts like that, or get into an expenses argument, personally i dont care about money.

What I really wanted was to get to the bottom of wether people ever fit in and if they still get treated like outsiders. Thanks for some great replys, most intrestingly are those from people who have lived for 5+years and knew exactly what I was talking about, having experinced similer feelings

Sometimes its almost like being a second class citizen and looked down upon.
Some people are great, they accept you as you are. There seems to be far more who either openly put down 'poms' or there are those who at first seem ok but over time let many nasty comments slip and you start to get to know how they really feel.

It really makes me question wether I should stay, I don’t want to live as a second class citizen to be looked down on....
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Old Jun 12th 2008, 11:51 am
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Originally Posted by dave99
Well this post sure has got side tracked !
It wasn’t my intention to have a post where people complain about what is wrong with Australia, there’s plenty of posts like that, or get into an expenses argument, personally i dont care about money.

What I really wanted was to get to the bottom of wether people ever fit in and if they still get treated like outsiders. Thanks for some great replys, most intrestingly are those from people who have lived for 5+years and knew exactly what I was talking about, having experinced similer feelings

Sometimes its almost like being a second class citizen and looked down upon.
Some people are great, they accept you as you are. There seems to be far more who either openly put down 'poms' or there are those who at first seem ok but over time let many nasty comments slip and you start to get to know how they really feel.

It really makes me question wether I should stay, I don’t want to live as a second class citizen to be looked down on....
I haven't found it amongst my friends. I found it more when I moved from lancashire to London when I was 19. People asked where my whippet was, was I having hotpot for dinner etc etc. It is no different. I never truly settled in London and that was my own country. I managed 4 years before moving away.
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Great thread even if it has been flogged to death ...

Shame about the idiotic ramblings.

I despair with some on here, I really f***ing do.

What do people honestly expect when they get here ... ? A big f*** off cuddle at customs and an invite to dinner ... sheesh?

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Get the f*** on with it, dry your eyes, stop whining like a ho and take the place for what it is.

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How do you view the Poles in Britain ... ?

Originally Posted by dave99
Well this post sure has got side tracked !
It wasn’t my intention to have a post where people complain about what is wrong with Australia, there’s plenty of posts like that, or get into an expenses argument, personally i dont care about money.

What I really wanted was to get to the bottom of wether people ever fit in and if they still get treated like outsiders. Thanks for some great replys, most intrestingly are those from people who have lived for 5+years and knew exactly what I was talking about, having experinced similer feelings

Sometimes its almost like being a second class citizen and looked down upon.
Some people are great, they accept you as you are. There seems to be far more who either openly put down 'poms' or there are those who at first seem ok but over time let many nasty comments slip and you start to get to know how they really feel.

It really makes me question wether I should stay, I don’t want to live as a second class citizen to be looked down on....
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Old Jun 12th 2008, 3:00 pm
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Originally Posted by dave99
Well this post sure has got side tracked !
It wasn’t my intention to have a post where people complain about what is wrong with Australia, there’s plenty of posts like that, or get into an expenses argument, personally i dont care about money.

What I really wanted was to get to the bottom of wether people ever fit in and if they still get treated like outsiders. Thanks for some great replys, most intrestingly are those from people who have lived for 5+years and knew exactly what I was talking about, having experinced similer feelings

Sometimes its almost like being a second class citizen and looked down upon.
Some people are great, they accept you as you are. There seems to be far more who either openly put down 'poms' or there are those who at first seem ok but over time let many nasty comments slip and you start to get to know how they really feel.

It really makes me question wether I should stay, I don’t want to live as a second class citizen to be looked down on....
Your basis of second class citizenship comes from the people around you? If this matters more to you, if in paper you are admitted, you just have to change your mindset then. I give up looking for the promise land,economically every nation now treats citizens as tax units, we exists because we contribute, and the big boss is happy, who cares you be happy or not.... sigh. Its a material world, and we are becoming sardines in a can!!!
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Old Jun 13th 2008, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by Three Legs
Great thread even if it has been flogged to death ...

Shame about the idiotic ramblings.

I despair with some on here, I really f***ing do.

What do people honestly expect when they get here ... ? A big f*** off cuddle at customs and an invite to dinner ... sheesh?

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Get the f*** on with it, dry your eyes, stop whining like a ho and take the place for what it is.
I'm surprised at what you say...

On entry to the country the passport officer wished us a great life in Australia.

The customs officer was similarly polite, whizzing our cases through and saying welcome to God's own country.

Having walked the red carpet out of the airport the sun was shining and a taxi drive pulled up. "Poms?", he asked. "Jump in, the first one's on me!"

The whole street turned out to meet us...

And the house was fully furnished and Sky digital installed...

My neighbours clean the pool, my boss let's me start work late, my local serves me free beer and my thirteen investment properties are fetching top rent...

Come to Australia and live YOUR dream life!
Even though you might have to fake it every now and then.
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Old Jun 13th 2008, 8:22 am
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pmsl!!

If only! I dream that our imminent arrival will be like that!

In reality it'll be just like the last time we landed.... 'g'day, welcome to Australia.' stamp stamp!!


'have you got any food or live material in your bags? pop 'em on the xray then....'
and out into the sunshine, to find some transport to our temp accommodation!
Whether you 'fit in' or not is entirely up to you!

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Originally Posted by PC Pom
I'm surprised at what you say...

On entry to the country the passport officer wished us a great life in Australia.

The customs officer was similarly polite, whizzing our cases through and saying welcome to God's own country.

Having walked the red carpet out of the airport the sun was shining and a taxi drive pulled up. "Poms?", he asked. "Jump in, the first one's on me!"

The whole street turned out to meet us...

And the house was fully furnished and Sky digital installed...

My neighbours clean the pool, my boss let's me start work late, my local serves me free beer and my thirteen investment properties are fetching top rent...

Come to Australia and live YOUR dream life!
Even though you might have to fake it every now and then.

Blimey i cant wait to get to oz if everyone is like this.

seriously believe life is what you make it and everyone is different. It does get me down sometimes when all people do on here is moan about their new lives. If its that crap then come back, things /people are bound to be a bit different after all thats what most of us want (except those who want the uk in the sun).
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Australia was the only country where I saw a young hoon driving down Marmion Ave, Perth with a sticker on his car which told people ' if you don't like it here then F off back to your own country' . Nice and classy -Not!
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Originally Posted by Mikeyc
Not my fault the average wage is lower than Europe
Not my fault the rent is so overpriced
Not my fault the mortage prices are so unaffordable so many people are loosing their homes.
Not my fault the food is expensive and bland
Not my fault domestic and international flights are so expensive
Not my fault the government would not allow “real” broadband cable to be laid


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Not my fault your deal is worse than mine.
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Old Jun 13th 2008, 11:41 am
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Just read some of these.

Some of us have such crap deals we'll never realise how good it is for others.

I was just reflecting to my wife how great the work drinks (and people) were tonight.

Some of you really hang out in crap jobs or company. I've been there in the past. Never forget a 6 week temp job I had in the UK. All the bad things people say here were there.
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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
I find some of the more selfish Australians I meet (at work but not in my division as our division attracts self-confessed intellectuals! now there's a thing) remind me of some of the people you find living on the edges of London. Lots of money, sort of successful but not very enlightened. Areas like Essex and some tiny parts of SW London spring to mind.

Hi Badge so where do I fit in?

A self reliant Essex boy who can mix with anybody, have been all around the World and is probably as qualified and intellectual as yourself?

I don't rely on anyone but my Family and can sort out most problems myself.

It is just that I find the average aussie to be quite nice but very shallow and very boring. By the way I don't think it has anything to do with where we live.

I have a lot of aussie mates, but no aussie friends.

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Mate - all I can say is that there are people like *you*, who *do* have Aussie friends(!) I would not consider myself intellectual or qualified. But Australians I work with are and are enjoyable!

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Originally Posted by donovandenese
Has anyone noticed the even more annoying people - the "fake aussies" - migrants who act more local than the locals?
Yes. They are an even bigger pain in the arse than the whinging Poms
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Originally Posted by JRB
Australia was the only country where I saw a young hoon driving down Marmion Ave, Perth with a sticker on his car which told people ' if you don't like it here then F off back to your own country' . Nice and classy -Not!
we have friends that have that sticker.......its true tho...if u dont like it then **** of back to where u came from
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Old Jun 13th 2008, 1:06 pm
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Originally Posted by biggy
we have friends that have that sticker.......its true tho...if u dont like it then **** of back to where u came from
I tend to agree, it may not be classy but I think they tend to have the right idea.
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