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PaulandNic Jul 15th 2010 8:47 am

No dole unless sacked - right?
 
Can someone please confirm?!?

A guy at my work a few years back wouldn't just leave as he'll not get dole apparantly. He HAD to be sacked he kept telling me, but need to know if this is true.

Also, can you actually get dole as a PR, not a citizen. I'm thinking it's 2 years as a PR which we qualify, but just not citizens (pffft) yet.

Cheers

kjc Jul 15th 2010 8:52 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
I have just sent you a pm if you are looking for work?
Cheers

ABCDiamond Jul 15th 2010 9:55 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
As a PR you can definitely get benefits, after the 2 year waiting period.

Bix Jul 15th 2010 9:58 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
Yes Paul, the qualifying time is 104 weeks on PR.

I believe dole is effectively what is called Newstart Allowance here which is income support while you are out of work but actively seeking employment.

The guy was correct.
There is an 8 week non payment period if you resign or are dismissed on grounds of misconduct.

The payment is subject to other possible waiting periods.

Like taking into account any pay-off you received = Maintenance Waiting Period.

Assets are means tested = Liquid Assets Waiting Period.

These periods can vary in number of weeks but run concurrently.

Payment is conditional on the individual complying with laid down job seeker criteria.

PaulandNic Jul 15th 2010 10:02 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
So tomorrow when I ask to get sacked, as long as they play ball I can get some money pretty much straight off?

ABCDiamond Jul 15th 2010 10:06 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8702939)
Can someone please confirm?!?

A guy at my work a few years back wouldn't just leave as he'll not get dole apparantly. He HAD to be sacked he kept telling me, but need to know if this is true.

Cheers

If you are not sacked there is a waiting period before you can get any benefits.

The length of this waiting period may be flexible depending on your reason for leaving.

PaulandNic Jul 15th 2010 10:08 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8703077)
If you are not sacked there is a waiting period before you can get any benefits.

The length of this waiting period may be flexible depending on your reason for leaving.

Oh I won't leave ... there's sweet FA work out there, hence gonna ask to be sacked.

I'll take from this government no worries, have give them enough since arriving.

ABCDiamond Jul 15th 2010 10:11 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8703081)
Oh I won't leave ... there's sweet FA work out there, hence gonna ask to be sacked.

I'll take from this government no worries, have give them enough since arriving.

Are you prepared for the queues at Centrelink :blink:

They may be happy to hand it out, but :shudder: at claiming it.

PaulandNic Jul 15th 2010 10:13 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8703086)
Are you prepared for the queues at Centrelink :blink:

They may be happy to hand it out, but :shudder: at claiming it.

No other choice, so yeah.

coolshadows Jul 15th 2010 10:15 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8703081)
there's sweet FA work out there

Surely that doesn't fit with the 'full employment' scenario?

Bix Jul 15th 2010 10:19 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8703071)
So tomorrow when I ask to get sacked, as long as they play ball I can get some money pretty much straight off?

When you leave an employer they should give you a Separation Certificate which is a Centrelink document you will need to give to Centrelink.

It could depend on what they put on that cert.

Even if there is no pay-off as such you will still have the Liquid Assets test which judges you jointly. Nic will be sent a Mod P questionnaire to varify information you give in a phone interview.

Theoretically the minimum waiting time is 1 week.
ie 1 week with nothing.

ABCDiamond Jul 15th 2010 10:22 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by coolshadows (Post 8703094)
Surely that doesn't fit with the 'full employment' scenario?

The Queensland unemployment rate is 5.2%, which is still quite high when compared to the 2007-08 average of 3.7%

It has only come down a little from the peak of 6.3% last September.

PaulandNic Jul 15th 2010 10:35 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by Bix (Post 8703099)
ie 1 week with nothing.

A week I can handle, but just been lookin on the web and it's looking like I'll get pretty much FA anyway so lookin like a waste of time.

'a waste of time' ... 'a waste of space'?

****, the story of my life of what!

Vash the Stampede Jul 15th 2010 10:50 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
I lost my job as a result of redundancy, but was able to claim Newstart immediately.

ABCDiamond Jul 15th 2010 10:59 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
I got of the plane from the UK in 1986, and I was sent straight to the Centrelink of the day. Things have a changed a bit since then. ;)

Kim67 Jul 15th 2010 4:12 pm

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 8703164)
I lost my job as a result of redundancy, but was able to claim Newstart immediately.

My husband was made redundant a few years ago and was unable to claim for something like ten weeks as he had technically received a payout (hadn't actually received it as he disputed it and eventually they settled out of court) so we had to live off our savings for six weeks until he got another job. Things may have changed since then though.

Cheetah7 Jul 16th 2010 12:41 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8702939)
Can someone please confirm?!?

A guy at my work a few years back wouldn't just leave as he'll not get dole apparantly. He HAD to be sacked he kept telling me, but need to know if this is true.

Also, can you actually get dole as a PR, not a citizen. I'm thinking it's 2 years as a PR which we qualify, but just not citizens (pffft) yet.

Cheers

Could you hang in there till you have the cost of your flight tickets and enough money to get your little dog home?

You wont raise the flight costs on dole money Paul nor pay your mortage. But if you hang in just enough to get your flights and your dog flights, you will at least not get kicked out of your house and then you get your plane tickets and go back to the UK and have enough to put down a deposit on a rental and tide you over till you both get a job.:(

I dont think dole money goes very far, its hard when you dont like your job but if you have a light at the end of the tunnel in the form of a new life set up in the UK and plan it well then the job you dislike so much will be worth it because you have your escape plan.

Just having enough to pay rent for a few months in the UK till you get jobs would see you right.

Hugs to you Paul.:wub:

jad n rich Jul 16th 2010 1:14 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by Professional Princess (Post 8704647)

Could you hang in there till you have the cost of your flight tickets and enough money to get your little dog home?



Paul agree with above, besides if your married defacto, your wifes income will probably mean you dont get the dole anyway. I know when son was made redundant:rolleyes: after his apprenticeship, he couldnt get dole, they took into account his defacto girlfriend, holiday pay he had received. I am not really up on this stuff but I did think your wife worked?

PaulandNic Jul 16th 2010 8:56 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 
All good, goin to see a BE member tomorrow about a job. The dole is $400 per fortnight and prob net eligible anyway.

Handed in me notice today with current mob

PaulandNic Jul 16th 2010 8:58 am

Re: No dole unless sacked - right?
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8704691)
but I did think your wife worked?

Doesn't everyone's wife work over here?

Gotta be earning top dollar to get by on one I reckon.


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