Nitrox
Jul 23rd 2006, 9:41 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by jayjd12
Hi Centurion, just picked up on your stating not to bring over the Cylnders, is there a particular reason for this, weight etc or are they just fantastically cheap (I bet this aint the answer is it?) 
Cheers
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Jul 23rd 2006, 9:49 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by steve`o
no we fly out on the 8th oct
we are heading for the gold coast at the moment
its school related as we have been doing seaches etc for our daughters schooling and robina high seems very good
but so does albany creek which i know is in the opposite direction but i`m of the opinion that her schooling comes first
we are heading for the gold coast at the moment
its school related as we have been doing seaches etc for our daughters schooling and robina high seems very good
but so does albany creek which i know is in the opposite direction but i`m of the opinion that her schooling comes first
Nitrox easily available.
Still some good schools on North Side, our son goes to
http://www.stpauls.qld.edu.au/06_web/home/home.asp
Good private school does all sorts and have even become first school to sign deal with PGA golf as has separate golf academy although normal students can get lessons.
Jul 23rd 2006, 9:49 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by steve`o
thanks rossifumi
do you get the chance to dive regularly over there ?
do you get the chance to dive regularly over there ?
Matt has just started diving, he's with a club on the northside of Brisbane (BlueZone Scuba). They go out every fortnight on the the bay (Matt doesn't! Probably wishes he could though) They do nitrox refilling ($15/tank I think).
Jul 23rd 2006, 11:22 pm
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by matt-and-jenny
Hi Steve
Matt has just started diving, he's with a club on the northside of Brisbane (BlueZone Scuba). They go out every fortnight on the the bay (Matt doesn't! Probably wishes he could though) They do nitrox refilling ($15/tank I think).
Matt has just started diving, he's with a club on the northside of Brisbane (BlueZone Scuba). They go out every fortnight on the the bay (Matt doesn't! Probably wishes he could though) They do nitrox refilling ($15/tank I think).
Jul 23rd 2006, 11:30 pm
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by jayjd12
Hi Centurion, just picked up on your stating not to bring over the Cylnders, is there a particular reason for this, weight etc or are they just fantastically cheap (I bet this aint the answer is it?)
Cheers
Cheers
I have donated 6 such steel objects to recycling in the last few months
Basically - sell it before you come here and buy a new one here. Will save a heap of money. They are not cheap here tho. Faber steel 12lt about 500AUD.
If you need to know anything specific please feel free to PM me.
Jul 23rd 2006, 11:56 pm
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by Centurion
its because - as many have found to our woe - that the cylinders in the UK are not compliant to Australian regulations. Namely they lack burst disks in the valves and unless it was manufactured about less than 18 months ago will carry the wrong BS mark.
I have donated 6 such steel objects to recycling in the last few months
Basically - sell it before you come here and buy a new one here. Will save a heap of money. They are not cheap here tho. Faber steel 12lt about 500AUD.
If you need to know anything specific please feel free to PM me.
I have donated 6 such steel objects to recycling in the last few months
Basically - sell it before you come here and buy a new one here. Will save a heap of money. They are not cheap here tho. Faber steel 12lt about 500AUD.
If you need to know anything specific please feel free to PM me.
Centurion,
do you know anything about getting UK cylinders inspected and stamped to AU standards & valves being adapted? Is it right that in Oz cylinders have to have a hydro every year?
I popped into Pro Dive in Sydney last year while I was on holiday to ask them about UK cylinders, and they informed me that UK ones can be adapted and have buest discs fitted, but not sure on the cost. Could work out cheeper than $500 a pop, especially for a couple of 15s, twin 12s (including isolating manifold) and a pony! However, if there really isn't any point bringing them I will try and sell them here while the weather is warm and everyone is actually diving! The other thing I noticed was that there didn't seem to be any DIN valves over there, and all my regs are DIN.
I was also looking at doing a bit of teaching (am moving to Geelong), as much to meet people people in the local area as anything. Insurance is compulsory in the UK as well now as well as a yearly HSE medical, so doesn't look like I will save any money when I eventually move.
DWT
Jul 24th 2006, 12:48 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by DWT
Centurion,
do you know anything about getting UK cylinders inspected and stamped to AU standards & valves being adapted? Is it right that in Oz cylinders have to have a hydro every year?
I popped into Pro Dive in Sydney last year while I was on holiday to ask them about UK cylinders, and they informed me that UK ones can be adapted and have buest discs fitted, but not sure on the cost. Could work out cheeper than $500 a pop, especially for a couple of 15s, twin 12s (including isolating manifold) and a pony! However, if there really isn't any point bringing them I will try and sell them here while the weather is warm and everyone is actually diving! The other thing I noticed was that there didn't seem to be any DIN valves over there, and all my regs are DIN.
I was also looking at doing a bit of teaching (am moving to Geelong), as much to meet people people in the local area as anything. Insurance is compulsory in the UK as well now as well as a yearly HSE medical, so doesn't look like I will save any money when I eventually move.
DWT
do you know anything about getting UK cylinders inspected and stamped to AU standards & valves being adapted? Is it right that in Oz cylinders have to have a hydro every year?
I popped into Pro Dive in Sydney last year while I was on holiday to ask them about UK cylinders, and they informed me that UK ones can be adapted and have buest discs fitted, but not sure on the cost. Could work out cheeper than $500 a pop, especially for a couple of 15s, twin 12s (including isolating manifold) and a pony! However, if there really isn't any point bringing them I will try and sell them here while the weather is warm and everyone is actually diving! The other thing I noticed was that there didn't seem to be any DIN valves over there, and all my regs are DIN.
I was also looking at doing a bit of teaching (am moving to Geelong), as much to meet people people in the local area as anything. Insurance is compulsory in the UK as well now as well as a yearly HSE medical, so doesn't look like I will save any money when I eventually move.
DWT
Jul 24th 2006, 3:03 am
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Re: Nitrox
Is this any use to anyone? http://www.diveoz.com.au/
The nearest thing I've found to Divernet in the UK.
I'll be arriving in Melbourne in Sept, but the kit won't arrive til Oct sometime
The nearest thing I've found to Divernet in the UK.
I'll be arriving in Melbourne in Sept, but the kit won't arrive til Oct sometime
Jul 24th 2006, 7:07 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by Centurion
its because - as many have found to our woe - that the cylinders in the UK are not compliant to Australian regulations. Namely they lack burst disks in the valves and unless it was manufactured about less than 18 months ago will carry the wrong BS mark.
I have donated 6 such steel objects to recycling in the last few months
Basically - sell it before you come here and buy a new one here. Will save a heap of money. They are not cheap here tho. Faber steel 12lt about 500AUD.
If you need to know anything specific please feel free to PM me.
I have donated 6 such steel objects to recycling in the last few months
Basically - sell it before you come here and buy a new one here. Will save a heap of money. They are not cheap here tho. Faber steel 12lt about 500AUD.
If you need to know anything specific please feel free to PM me.
I was diving in Wales last week (Anglesey) in just my faithful shortie, water was excellent, can you believe it?
Cheers
Jul 24th 2006, 7:15 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by jayjd12
Cheers for that Centurion, I knew they would'nt be cheap! I will sell them over here, they are nearing Test date anyhow.
I was diving in Wales last week (Anglesey) in just my faithful shortie, water was excellent, can you believe it?
Cheers
I was diving in Wales last week (Anglesey) in just my faithful shortie, water was excellent, can you believe it?
Cheers
Not so much the temp but the wind when you get out.
On the plus side of things we do see these most dives. You'll love it here
Jul 24th 2006, 7:23 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by thebears
Steve have you had a chat with Buzzy Bee yet? Although they may end up in Melbourne sounds like he would be interesed in chatting about the diving.
Some great spots across the water in NZ - Poor Knights etc.
Some great spots across the water in NZ - Poor Knights etc.
Ah-ha!
Thanks mate! Yes Steve and I have chatted about the diving before. There seems to be great diving in Melbourne as well as QLD - just a bit colder.
I've dived QLD (Flinders reef, Moreton Island) and NSW (Byron Bay). Can't wait to dive Melbourne and see the leafy sea dragons. But if I was going to choose anywhere to live in Oz based on diving alone it would be Ningaloo Reef, WA. mmmmm whale sharks.
slightly p155ed Buzzy
Jul 24th 2006, 7:24 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by steve`o
yeah still help alittle with studants at our local padi centre
( i`m a padi DM )
that and my daughter terri ( 13 ) is just doing her open water
some of our aussie BE members suggested that it would be cheaper to kit her up in the UK so i got her enrolled nad bought her her first set of gear ( she loves it )
also got myself a new dive comp at he same time
just to save money of course
nope you must be confusing me with some one else
rich
regards steve
( i`m a padi DM )
that and my daughter terri ( 13 ) is just doing her open water
some of our aussie BE members suggested that it would be cheaper to kit her up in the UK so i got her enrolled nad bought her her first set of gear ( she loves it )
also got myself a new dive comp at he same time
just to save money of course
nope you must be confusing me with some one else
rich
regards steve
Glad to hear things are coming together. Thanks for the help with schools etc...looks like we have both come full circle with this and put miles of effort in too...we must be pretty good parents eh?
all the best
kelly
Jul 24th 2006, 7:24 am
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by DWT
Centurion,
do you know anything about getting UK cylinders inspected and stamped to AU standards & valves being adapted? Is it right that in Oz cylinders have to have a hydro every year?
I popped into Pro Dive in Sydney last year while I was on holiday to ask them about UK cylinders, and they informed me that UK ones can be adapted and have buest discs fitted, but not sure on the cost. Could work out cheeper than $500 a pop, especially for a couple of 15s, twin 12s (including isolating manifold) and a pony! However, if there really isn't any point bringing them I will try and sell them here while the weather is warm and everyone is actually diving! The other thing I noticed was that there didn't seem to be any DIN valves over there, and all my regs are DIN.
I was also looking at doing a bit of teaching (am moving to Geelong), as much to meet people people in the local area as anything. Insurance is compulsory in the UK as well now as well as a yearly HSE medical, so doesn't look like I will save any money when I eventually move.
DWT
do you know anything about getting UK cylinders inspected and stamped to AU standards & valves being adapted? Is it right that in Oz cylinders have to have a hydro every year?
I popped into Pro Dive in Sydney last year while I was on holiday to ask them about UK cylinders, and they informed me that UK ones can be adapted and have buest discs fitted, but not sure on the cost. Could work out cheeper than $500 a pop, especially for a couple of 15s, twin 12s (including isolating manifold) and a pony! However, if there really isn't any point bringing them I will try and sell them here while the weather is warm and everyone is actually diving! The other thing I noticed was that there didn't seem to be any DIN valves over there, and all my regs are DIN.
I was also looking at doing a bit of teaching (am moving to Geelong), as much to meet people people in the local area as anything. Insurance is compulsory in the UK as well now as well as a yearly HSE medical, so doesn't look like I will save any money when I eventually move.
DWT
Mine were BS5045/1 but were still refused by the testers. Basically the long and short of it is that its not a Australian Standard then its not going to happen. Despite the technical correctness of what your trying to do in crossing them over it simply doesnt work in reality.
As to the Yoke or DIN issue. You can usually simply unscrew the insert of your cylinder with an alan key. Hey presto DIN cylinder. I dive with DIN and not yoke since its a more secure seal.
On the plus side we dont have the HSE medical
Jul 24th 2006, 7:57 pm
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by Centurion
Firstly. The whole cylinder stamping thing. Your tanks have to be BS5045/1 and not /7 to stand any hope of being compliant. Then you have to have new burst disks machined into the valve at around $90 each. Then hydro'd and then restamped etc. Cost per cylinder $300 or so in total.
Mine were BS5045/1 but were still refused by the testers. Basically the long and short of it is that its not a Australian Standard then its not going to happen. Despite the technical correctness of what your trying to do in crossing them over it simply doesnt work in reality.
As to the Yoke or DIN issue. You can usually simply unscrew the insert of your cylinder with an alan key. Hey presto DIN cylinder. I dive with DIN and not yoke since its a more secure seal.
On the plus side we dont have the HSE medical
Mine were BS5045/1 but were still refused by the testers. Basically the long and short of it is that its not a Australian Standard then its not going to happen. Despite the technical correctness of what your trying to do in crossing them over it simply doesnt work in reality.
As to the Yoke or DIN issue. You can usually simply unscrew the insert of your cylinder with an alan key. Hey presto DIN cylinder. I dive with DIN and not yoke since its a more secure seal.
On the plus side we dont have the HSE medical
I did look for the inserts last year but on the hired cyclinders I used they didn't have any. Fortunately I had taken an adapter with me. I guess when I buy new cyclinders I will at least be able to get valves to take DIN. I'm with you 100% on them being more secure.
Jul 24th 2006, 8:05 pm
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Re: Nitrox
Originally Posted by Centurion
Firstly. The whole cylinder stamping thing. Your tanks have to be BS5045/1 and not /7 to stand any hope of being compliant. Then you have to have new burst disks machined into the valve at around $90 each. Then hydro'd and then restamped etc. Cost per cylinder $300 or so in total.
Mine were BS5045/1 but were still refused by the testers. Basically the long and short of it is that its not a Australian Standard then its not going to happen. Despite the technical correctness of what your trying to do in crossing them over it simply doesnt work in reality.
As to the Yoke or DIN issue. You can usually simply unscrew the insert of your cylinder with an alan key. Hey presto DIN cylinder. I dive with DIN and not yoke since its a more secure seal.
On the plus side we dont have the HSE medical
Mine were BS5045/1 but were still refused by the testers. Basically the long and short of it is that its not a Australian Standard then its not going to happen. Despite the technical correctness of what your trying to do in crossing them over it simply doesnt work in reality.
As to the Yoke or DIN issue. You can usually simply unscrew the insert of your cylinder with an alan key. Hey presto DIN cylinder. I dive with DIN and not yoke since its a more secure seal.
On the plus side we dont have the HSE medical
I/we now run 12ltr Aluminiums, but the heavier version - all 4 are O2 clean and we get nitrox easily whenever we need it - which right now isn't too often as we're not getting out much. Visitors go this week so it looks like diving is back on the cards.
