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Old Mar 29th 2009, 1:29 am
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Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.

My accountant isnt experienced with International rules, so I will have to go elsewhere, some accountants want ridiculous fees which I'd like to avoid.

Would the following ruling suggest rental losses overseas can be offset against your domestic income, ie negative gearing.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co....htm&page=5&H5

be good to hear and recieve clarity for anyone else in this boat.
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Originally Posted by La Vida loca
Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.

My accountant isnt experienced with International rules, so I will have to go elsewhere, some accountants want ridiculous fees which I'd like to avoid.

Would the following ruling suggest rental losses overseas can be offset against your domestic income, ie negative gearing.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co....htm&page=5&H5

be good to hear and recieve clarity for anyone else in this boat.

I was asking this a few days ago and I belive you can (not sure about depreciation) The best person to ask would be Alan Collett who is on this site.
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Originally Posted by La Vida loca
Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.

My accountant isnt experienced with International rules, so I will have to go elsewhere, some accountants want ridiculous fees which I'd like to avoid.

Would the following ruling suggest rental losses overseas can be offset against your domestic income, ie negative gearing.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co....htm&page=5&H5

be good to hear and recieve clarity for anyone else in this boat.
I don't think you will get anyone on here to provide clarity or advice in this respect, as in doing so, they may inadvertently be breaking the law.

I've just visited that link and the content seems pretty clear to me. Why not give the ATO a call and ask for their advice.

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Old Apr 2nd 2009, 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by asprilla
I don't think you will get anyone on here to provide clarity or advice in this respect, as in doing so, they may inadvertently be breaking the law.

I've just visited that link and the content seems pretty clear to me. Why not give the ATO a call and ask for their advice.
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I used to be an Accountant, and if I wasn't sure about something I would contact the ATO, get the correct info, and pass it on to the client, billing them $10 for every 6 minutes for my time in doing it, including time waiting on the phone for the ATO person to check with someone else

Sometimes I consider going back into that line, instead of enjoying myself

What do accountants charge these days, I retired from that particular line of work in about 1992.
 
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I used to be an Accountant.


This explains a lot!
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Originally Posted by Tooterelli
This explains a lot!


Actually, it explains a lot more than you think....

My daughter was told at school yesterday that she should try a bit harder at Maths, as she was very good, even though she doesn't try.
The teacher actually said that Maths must be in her genes.

I decided to check the family tree fully...
Excluding myself, her grandmum worked for the UK tax Office.
Her Grandad, we haven't found out what he did yet.
Her Great Grand-dad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Grandad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Great Grandad was.... yes, you guessed it, an Accountant, and very well known in what is now the the Lloyds/HBOS group.

She has a bit to live up to, but has said she doesn't want to be.... an Accountant....
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond


The teacher actually said that Maths must be in her genes.

I decided to check the family tree fully...
Excluding myself, her grandmum worked for the UK tax Office.
Her Grandad, we haven't found out what he did yet.
Her Great Grand-dad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Grandad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Great Grandad was.... yes, you guessed it, an Accountant, and very well known in what is now the the Lloyds/HBOS group.

....

AAaaaaaaaarrrrgghhhhhhhhh!
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Default Re: Negative Gearing for Oversea Property on Aus Domestic Income

Originally Posted by La Vida loca
Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.

My accountant isnt experienced with International rules, so I will have to go elsewhere, some accountants want ridiculous fees which I'd like to avoid.

Would the following ruling suggest rental losses overseas can be offset against your domestic income, ie negative gearing.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co....htm&page=5&H5

be good to hear and recieve clarity for anyone else in this boat.
Yep, we claimed a deduction for overseas rental losses in our 2008 Aussie Returns.

Feel able to contact me by email or PM if you would like a proposal as to costs for assisting with your UK and/or Australian Tax Returns. Click on my name to the left of this posting.

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Default Re: Negative Gearing for Oversea Property on Aus Domestic Income

Originally Posted by La Vida loca
Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.

My accountant isnt experienced with International rules, so I will have to go elsewhere, some accountants want ridiculous fees which I'd like to avoid.

Would the following ruling suggest rental losses overseas can be offset against your domestic income, ie negative gearing.

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co....htm&page=5&H5

be good to hear and recieve clarity for anyone else in this boat.
Have you seen this thread?

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...reign+property
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Default Re: Negative Gearing for Oversea Property on Aus Domestic Income

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond


Actually, it explains a lot more than you think....

My daughter was told at school yesterday that she should try a bit harder at Maths, as she was very good, even though she doesn't try.
The teacher actually said that Maths must be in her genes.

I decided to check the family tree fully...
Excluding myself, her grandmum worked for the UK tax Office.
Her Grandad, we haven't found out what he did yet.
Her Great Grand-dad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Grandad was an Accountant
Her Great Great Great Grandad was.... yes, you guessed it, an Accountant, and very well known in what is now the the Lloyds/HBOS group.

She has a bit to live up to, but has said she doesn't want to be.... an Accountant....
I bet your family get togethers are exciting!
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Originally Posted by La Vida loca
Just wondering, is anyone else claiming negative gearing on their Australian income for foriegn Losses on rental investment properties overseas.
Yep, we do. We've always made a slight loss on our property in the UK (rent didn't cover the mortgage at first, then tenants trashed it...) so we've always claimed that back from the AU tax man. However, I suspect if you make money on your property you pay tax in both places.
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