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Old Aug 8th 2003, 1:47 pm
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Originally posted by The Tooth Fairy
I wish for a cosmopolitan nation. The danger of a multicultural one is that people do not take the time to understand each others culture.
Explain the lack of an Australian culture ?

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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Explain the lack of an Australian culture ?

Explain the lack of yours?
 
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Originally posted by The Tooth Fairy
Explain the lack of yours?
Seem to have more than I can handle but still trying to find yours.

http://www.britainexpress.com/Histor...sh-culture.htm

http://know-britain.com/
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Seem to have more than I can handle but still trying to find yours.

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Taken up brewing then?
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Old Aug 9th 2003, 11:58 am
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Originally posted by gOD
Good as long as efforts are made to integrate. Most of these countries' problems come from locals, NOT from immigrants.
The Economist had another of these stupid editorials saying how wonderful immigration into London was, and even that it was good that British people were moving out of London (the so-called 'white flight').

Okay, okay, these precious immigrants have enriched London and the provincial cities of England enough, there is no need or desire for any more. Let them do their enriching in 'hideously white' Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland instead. The UK isn't a nation of immigrants, it just pretends to be. New Zealand is a nation of immigrants, but pretends it isn't.

That's why I much prefer Australia to New Zealand, which is so dour, prim, provincial and anally retentive (and that's just Auckland) it considers white South African immigrants exotic. I haven't been to Adelaide, but it sounds just as bad- rather like the accent of some of the people I've heard from there, who sound like they have difficulty swallowing.

I don't know why Kiwis need to come to London for an OE 'Overseas Experience' (!) They can do that in Australia. Aussies don't need to come to London to realise how lucky they are, all they have to do is go to NZ.

The sad fact, though, is that the English have no pride in what little they actually have that hasn't been sponged off other cultures. English food in restaurants is usually dire, although some of the food in pizza and Chinese places in central London is inedible. Whatever dislikes I have about NZ, at least they produce food that IS edible for a fraction of the price in the UK. Lamb in the UK costs in pounds what you'd pay in dollars in NZ or Aussie.
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Old Aug 9th 2003, 12:17 pm
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That's why I much prefer Australia to New Zealand, which is so ) it considers white South African immigrants exotic. I haven't been to Adelaide, but it sounds just as bad- rather like tdour, prim, provincial and anally retentive (and that's just Aucklandhe accent of some of the people I've heard from there, who sound like they have difficulty swallowing.quote]


Speaking of anal retention..........just because you heard a few of the" Beaumont set" {adelaides society people ,or would like to think so} speak. Dont tar every body with the same brush, Adelaide is probably one of the most livable cities in the world, so dont knock it till you try it..............oh !by the way welcome to the forum............ MM
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Speaking of anal retention..........just because you heard a few of the" Beaumont set" {adelaides society people ,or would like to think so} speak. Dont tar every body with the same brush, Adelaide is probably one of the most livable cities in the world, so dont knock it till you try it..............
Point taken. My experience with Adelaide people has been more Backpacker than Beaumont. A state MP in WA was slagging off Adelaide and Hobart, but they can't be bad as Auckland.

oh !by the way welcome to the forum............
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Being a paid up member of the Klan you should ask will you fit into the new Australia?

Australia has been a multicultural country for a long time. We have so many different ways of living and ways of thinking. There is a myriad of religions, not to mention foods. Other countries have had a huge impact on what we eat, what we wear, and even how we think.

The list of religions is very long. There is Hindu, Shinto, Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism – the latter being the fastest-growing religion in Australia – and there are at least one million Muslims living here. If we can have an awareness of other religions, then we can have an insight into other cultures.

According to The World Socialist Web Site there is a supposed "blacklist" of countries located in the Asian-Pacific, South America, Middle East, and Europe where the residents are not allowed Australian citizenship because they are considered high risk factors. However, statistics from the 1999-2000 population survey refute this information. One of the countries on the "blacklist" is Yugoslavia, however they accounted for 2.4% of the 92.272 immgrants in that year. China was also on the "list" and they accounted for 7.4% of the immigrants (Australian Department of Immigration website; Aboltion of the White Australia Policy). Currently 22 percent (Rowntree, 608) of Australia's 19.4 million people (World Population Data Sheet) are immigrants and approximately one-sixth of the total present population of Australia are originally from other parts of the globe





Look, I know you are the village idiot and I give you more slack than you deserve for being that way. If you've got something to say let it be your own words not the cut 'n' paste waffle (as has been pointed out to you before by others). I read the first sentence, the rest says blah blah blah to me. Original thought (if you are capable)please.
I don't mind 'evidence' to back up an argument, but keep it relevant.
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Originally posted by mr mover
yeah bring it on................. MM
I have no problem with geniune refugees or legal immigrants (I'm gonna be one myself for christ sake).

What I do object to, in this country at least, is refugees traversing most of Europe just to get to the UK. These people are supposed to be desperate. Sorry. Not possible. They would stop at the first safe country.

A day in the life of the typical illegal immo:

10.30 am. Get up, put on Levis, Nikes and Ben Sherman. Switch on mobile phone and strap to belt.

11.00 am. Start up un-insured, un-taxed, un-registered BMW and drive (without a licence) on the wrong side of the road, only slightly beered-up from the night before, down to the cafe to meet fellow illegals. Maybe run over a newly-wed couple on the way.

12.30 pm. Meet more mates and go down to supermarket. Stroll around the place in a large a gang as possible and stock up on frozen legs of lamb, sides of beef, and joints of ham.
Intimidate old ladies on the way.

1.00 pm. Visit dole office, and upon a rapturous reception, ensure fresh supplies of cash and sympathy are rolling in. Collect Oscar for ever-better play-dead acting.

2.30 pm. Visit local park, and bbq some swans, all washed down with lashings of special brew. Luverly.

6.00 pm. Zig-zag back to base in the beemer, stopping off for a few jars en-route. Pat self on back for a good days work done, and break into uncontrollable hysterics at the English welfare system. Get head down for a good day tommorrow.
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Originally posted by chippy
Look, I know you are the village idiot and I give you more slack than you deserve for being that way. If you've got something to say let it be your own words not the cut 'n' paste waffle (as has been pointed out to you before by others). I read the first sentence, the rest says blah blah blah to me. Original thought (if you are capable)please.
I don't mind 'evidence' to back up an argument, but keep it relevant.
BTW, had a nice day in the stocks?
Keep deluding yourself this country only wants Poms dream on.


Australia is one of few countries in the world to provide a planned and managed program – Australia's Humanitarian Program – for people needing humanitarian resettlement.

The Australian Government, through the Department of Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs (DIMIA), provides a number of specialised services aimed at helping new Humanitarian Program arrivals settle in Australia quickly and effectively.

These include Department’s Integrated Humanitarian Settlement Strategy (IHSS), under which settlement services are provided to newly-arrived refugees (see Fact Sheet 66 Integrated Humanitarian


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Originally posted by chippy
I have no problem with geniune refugees or legal immigrants (I'm gonna be one myself for christ sake).

What I do object to, in this country at least, is refugees traversing most of Europe just to get to the UK. These people are supposed to be desperate. Sorry. Not possible. They would stop at the first safe country.

A day in the life of the typical illegal immo:

10.30 am. Get up, put on Levis, Nikes and Ben Sherman. Switch on mobile phone and strap to belt.

11.00 am. Start up un-insured, un-taxed, un-registered BMW and drive (without a licence) on the wrong side of the road, only slightly beered-up from the night before, down to the cafe to meet fellow illegals. Maybe run over a newly-wed couple on the way.

12.30 pm. Meet more mates and go down to supermarket. Stroll around the place in a large a gang as possible and stock up on frozen legs of lamb, sides of beef, and joints of ham.
Intimidate old ladies on the way.

1.00 pm. Visit dole office, and upon a rapturous reception, ensure fresh supplies of cash and sympathy are rolling in. Collect Oscar for ever-better play-dead acting.

2.30 pm. Visit local park, and bbq some swans, all washed down with lashings of special brew. Luverly.

6.00 pm. Zig-zag back to base in the beemer, stopping off for a few jars en-route. Pat self on back for a good days work done, and break into uncontrollable hysterics at the English welfare system. Get head down for a good day tommorrow.

You say you have no problems with immigrants but it is so clear from your posts that you are scared of them to an alarming extent. You mention gangs of blokes walking around the supermarket - you are like an old lady lifting her skirt up at the signs of a mouse. You sound to me as if you are terrified of a few immigrants (especially big nasty men) - they are not going to hurt you, Chipstick, trust me son. If you are scared of a few nasty men in your supermarket or so scared at the thought of some begging girls or whatever it is that makes you want to post about it like this, you will not be right for emigration. Take my advice, son, and stay home with mum. Emigration is not for you.
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Old Aug 10th 2003, 7:35 pm
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Originally posted by jayr
From your previous postings I am safely assured you mean this in a negative way and presumably you mean the 100, 000 taxpayers leaving are of the white flavour, like your good self. What will you be doing to integrate with the original peoples of Australia once you become one of the ethnic majorities on arrival?
Good question, I hadn't thought about integrating with the Aboriginies, is that what we're supposed to do? Maybe I will be happy about them bludging, getting interest free loans etc. after all they are the indiginous people of Australia, like the Celtic people of Britain.
Yes, sorry it is a negative post, but I along with what I understand is 80% (guesstimate) of the population in this country are fed up with being second in line to housing, schooling, medical care, free transport, free mobiles etc. etc. etc., it has become absolute madness, we can't refuse any request from these people claiming asylum in fear of being labelled racist. It seems that as soon as they arrive in this country, instead of being sent back to the first safe country in which they arrived, and the only country that they can legally claim asylum, our lawers (mostly named khan) get onto their cases, and effectively milk the system. Forget all other expenses, I would like a Government figure on what the legal bill is. It would not surpise me if the same Asian lawers who are making millions out of our system are not paying to bring more of these people here just to represent them!!!!!!!
The small people on this forum suggest that because we have a view, or because we can see the big picture, we should not be going to Oz. This is not the reason we want to emigrate, just a view on this thread..
I am not racist, people from other cultures add flavour and spice to all to countries, they are also some of the nicest people that I know.
Can I just finish with an observation, we all base our opinions on our personal experiences, I don't read newspapers, but I do not hear any ill of Chinese or Japanese people who come to live in Britain. Why is this?, do they come here and work, get on with their lives without sponging off the system. If this is so, why can't the other so called ethnic minorities?


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. It seems that as soon as they arrive in this country, instead of being sent back to the first safe country in which they arrived, and the only country that they can legally claim asylum, our lawers (mostly named khan) get onto their cases, and effectively milk the system.
It would not surpise me if the same Asian lawers who are making millions out of our system are not paying to bring more of these people here just to represent them!!!!!!!


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Yeah none of them Muslims in Australia you are off the planet without a clue.

Sydney, Dhul Hijja 23/Mar 7 (IINA) -While Australia was established on Western patterns, it has now become multi-ethnic and multi-cultural, after waves of immigration from a number of countries, including Muslim countries, whose presence in the country goes back to about 50 years only.

While the Muslims of Australia have yet to have any influence in the political process in Australia, many have joined some of the existing political parties in the country, the majority support the Labor Party. They feel that this party "respects and takes interest" in their affairs.

However, the media have been distorting the true image of Islam and Muslims, and the community has gone through many ups and downs, because of that distortion, and is now a well-established community. It is a community comprised of 35 out of Australia’s 85 ethnic groups.


http://www.islamicpopulation.com/australia_muslim.html

http://www.icnsw.org.au/muslimsau.html


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To Pommy Expat: Auckland is the largest polynesian city in the world last time I checked.... so I think Aucklanders are a little more used to 'exotic' people than you know...

To Slater: Okay, you say all asylum seekers should seek refuge in the first safe country they arrive. Fine.... that would result in ZERO genuine asylum seekers entering Britain - because only those that could afford to fly directly to Britain (assuming they come from a country that has direct flights and is not wartorn) would qualify under this rule. Perhaps this is what you want???
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Originally posted by jandjuk
To Slater: Okay, you say all asylum seekers should seek refuge in the first safe country they arrive. Fine.... that would result in ZERO genuine asylum seekers entering Britain - because only those that could afford to fly directly to Britain (assuming they come from a country that has direct flights and is not wartorn) would qualify under this rule. Perhaps this is what you want???
Yes, that would be nice, every family would be thousands of pounds better off, have a managable health system, less crime, spaces in prison to send our burglars, less beggars on the street. Not only this but it would eventually save the lives of millions. Just my view.


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