Is Moving To Australia Still Worth It In 2017/18
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Re: Is Moving To Australia Still Worth It In 2017/18
Perth is not boring
Only boring people get bored in a city of over 2 million
Perth, still, has the highest incomes in Australia apart from the ACT (go figure)
The only other places on the planet where I can earn the highest income and have a 1st world, western lifestyle are Texas and, maybe, Alberta (and I don't got a visa) - although the UK is coming back into the picture
Having lived there, I do not like Sydney
So Perth it is
Only boring people get bored in a city of over 2 million
Perth, still, has the highest incomes in Australia apart from the ACT (go figure)
The only other places on the planet where I can earn the highest income and have a 1st world, western lifestyle are Texas and, maybe, Alberta (and I don't got a visa) - although the UK is coming back into the picture
Having lived there, I do not like Sydney
So Perth it is
Well not quite. What you mean to write is that the simplicity that Perth posses satisfies personal requirements.
That does not mean it will suit all, or worse that only boring people are bored in Perth. Such a clichéd statement at best.
You may not be aware, or indeed given thought, to the fact that cities possess a 'personality' as well. Hence certain cities will suit certain psychological traits more so than others.
For example Woody Allen, is usually regarded as the prototypical New Yorker, appears cut out to fit that city. He probably wouldn't survive long in Perth. being a far more repressed, less out going city personality to the place he appears to 'fit'....
There are of course many personality types that would not fit into the Perth personality landscape. It certainly does not mean they are boring. It means Perth suits a very specific individual........
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When I look at the UK online papers all I read about is Brexit or the weather or complaints about a politician or a celebrity or Britain’s waning political influence in the world.
What’s left is the charm of the countryside, decent pork products , quaint villages and a short hop to explore Europe.
Australia has decent weather, people who (mostly) speak English and supermarkets that stock (mostly) similar products from back home. Its TV and magazines are as bad as the UK and the cost of things is directly related to how much you are earning (housing is expensive, but wages are high)
So, weather is (mostly) all you’ve got and I think it’s a huge incentive. I have lived in Sydney and Melbourne and spent a lot of time working in Brisbane and I love the fact that I have so many outdoor choices after work whether its evenings, weekends or on holiday. Beaches, parks, bbq’s, walking through the bush, fishing, cycling, watching kangaroos – there always seems something to do.
What’s left is the charm of the countryside, decent pork products , quaint villages and a short hop to explore Europe.
Australia has decent weather, people who (mostly) speak English and supermarkets that stock (mostly) similar products from back home. Its TV and magazines are as bad as the UK and the cost of things is directly related to how much you are earning (housing is expensive, but wages are high)
So, weather is (mostly) all you’ve got and I think it’s a huge incentive. I have lived in Sydney and Melbourne and spent a lot of time working in Brisbane and I love the fact that I have so many outdoor choices after work whether its evenings, weekends or on holiday. Beaches, parks, bbq’s, walking through the bush, fishing, cycling, watching kangaroos – there always seems something to do.
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Well weather alone doesn't make people stay in a country and Australia wouldn't really be considered a place with decent weather. Freshwater resources are declining in most parts with increasing droughts and the sun is way too aggressive. You can't really enjoy it, as you have to use sunscreen most of the time or you risk getting skin cancer. And then when it rains it really rains + the thunder storms. At least along the Med (in most parts) you can enjoy the sun all year round and summers in the UK are pleasant too. I suppose Tasmania (Hobart as a City) is the only place with a decent climate.
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Tasmania also experiences high temps - increasingly into the mid 30s - gets a fair amount of rain - often in deluges, not just as drizzle, and can be very cold and wintry. Suits me, but many people would not call that decent, any more than I would call Brisbane's climate decent.
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Well not quite. What you mean to write is that the simplicity that Perth posses satisfies personal requirements.
That does not mean it will suit all, or worse that only boring people are bored in Perth. Such a clichéd statement at best.
You may not be aware, or indeed given thought, to the fact that cities possess a 'personality' as well. Hence certain cities will suit certain psychological traits more so than others.
For example Woody Allen, is usually regarded as the prototypical New Yorker, appears cut out to fit that city. He probably wouldn't survive long in Perth. being a far more repressed, less out going city personality to the place he appears to 'fit'....
There are of course many personality types that would not fit into the Perth personality landscape. It certainly does not mean they are boring. It means Perth suits a very specific individual........
That does not mean it will suit all, or worse that only boring people are bored in Perth. Such a clichéd statement at best.
You may not be aware, or indeed given thought, to the fact that cities possess a 'personality' as well. Hence certain cities will suit certain psychological traits more so than others.
For example Woody Allen, is usually regarded as the prototypical New Yorker, appears cut out to fit that city. He probably wouldn't survive long in Perth. being a far more repressed, less out going city personality to the place he appears to 'fit'....
There are of course many personality types that would not fit into the Perth personality landscape. It certainly does not mean they are boring. It means Perth suits a very specific individual........
Please use someone else as an example
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Sure but many people enjoy smoking but is it good. We seem to be a generation that knows a lot but wants to ignore it. People used to move away from a desert and now we think it's great to build a city in a desert. From a scientific point, Tasmania is the only place with a brighter future.
Climate change: how Australia’s cities will be hotter, drier by 2050
Climate change: how Australia’s cities will be hotter, drier by 2050
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Sure but many people enjoy smoking but is it good. We seem to be a generation that knows a lot but wants to ignore it. People used to move away from a desert and now we think it's great to build a city in a desert. From a scientific point, Tasmania is the only place with a brighter future.
Climate change: how Australia’s cities will be hotter, drier by 2050
Climate change: how Australia’s cities will be hotter, drier by 2050
Sometimes the best holiday destinations should be left at that.
I have also had to apply sun lotion in Tasmania like you do in the 3 weeks of a UK summer. But really who cares. Rather be outside than in.
I apply sun lotion once a week in summer in Sydney. Playing cricket. Same when I play cricket in the UK.
That argument is a straw clutcher.
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Re: Is Moving To Australia Still Worth It In 2017/18
Depends what you're looking for. Lots of money - no, it's not worth it. Lots of sunshine - hell yeah!
This article presents an interesting take on things ;-)
Why Britain's Still Great, By Someone Who's Leaving
This article presents an interesting take on things ;-)
Why Britain's Still Great, By Someone Who's Leaving
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Re: Is Moving To Australia Still Worth It In 2017/18
Depends what you're looking for. Lots of money - no, it's not worth it. Lots of sunshine - hell yeah!
This article presents an interesting take on things ;-)
Why Britain's Still Great, By Someone Who's Leaving
This article presents an interesting take on things ;-)
Why Britain's Still Great, By Someone Who's Leaving
A certain type of Brit will likely find Australia very trying. To say the least. In fact I know people over there from long standing, whom couldn't believe why I would want to live in such a country.
Some even not the slightest interest to visit.
The once easily sold attraction of sun and beach, not quite as saleable these days. Apart from the tourist brochures of course.
I agree the sun and even ambiance is better in certain Euro locations. The pubs are better in UK , a summer is far more enjoyable there, where parks full of people sun bathing, long evenings, even the English sea side is rather unique and thus attractive to visit.
The regions, as on the Mainland, with regional accents and a sense of being in a different place due to that, not really found in Australia, although of course the geography can be far more diverse here.
Those not in need of economic refuge, where Australia may or may not prove to be a salvation, one can only wonder about the expectations those who embark on such an action like moving to the other side of the world in 2018 really hope to find?
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A very good take on things and reminds one of a number of things new world nations, such as Australia lack. Even compared to Mainland Europe, UK seem to posses something of the Danish 'hygge' , not usually found outside of Denmark, although I wonder if not in the same quantity, perhaps, as in times past. One can witness how strong this was in British film noir, a favourite of mine, that exposes a world, I suspect, no longer exists. The sense of 'hygge' certainly comes clearly out in those.
A certain type of Brit will likely find Australia very trying. To say the least. In fact I know people over there from long standing, whom couldn't believe why I would want to live in such a country.
Some even not the slightest interest to visit.
The once easily sold attraction of sun and beach, not quite as saleable these days. Apart from the tourist brochures of course.
I agree the sun and even ambiance is better in certain Euro locations. The pubs are better in UK , a summer is far more enjoyable there, where parks full of people sun bathing, long evenings, even the English sea side is rather unique and thus attractive to visit.
The regions, as on the Mainland, with regional accents and a sense of being in a different place due to that, not really found in Australia, although of course the geography can be far more diverse here.
Those not in need of economic refuge, where Australia may or may not prove to be a salvation, one can only wonder about the expectations those who embark on such an action like moving to the other side of the world in 2018 really hope to find?
A certain type of Brit will likely find Australia very trying. To say the least. In fact I know people over there from long standing, whom couldn't believe why I would want to live in such a country.
Some even not the slightest interest to visit.
The once easily sold attraction of sun and beach, not quite as saleable these days. Apart from the tourist brochures of course.
I agree the sun and even ambiance is better in certain Euro locations. The pubs are better in UK , a summer is far more enjoyable there, where parks full of people sun bathing, long evenings, even the English sea side is rather unique and thus attractive to visit.
The regions, as on the Mainland, with regional accents and a sense of being in a different place due to that, not really found in Australia, although of course the geography can be far more diverse here.
Those not in need of economic refuge, where Australia may or may not prove to be a salvation, one can only wonder about the expectations those who embark on such an action like moving to the other side of the world in 2018 really hope to find?
When are you moving there?
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Most likely even if never, would be long before you learnt the art of debate, or brushed up on literary skills only partly learnt in the South African 'dorp' you left behind.
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I can picture you there
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Better get in quick, Hastings is changing. The 2%'ers are seeing value in Hastings.