Amazulu

It's a good question but don't expect any kind understandable answer

Methinks he's one of those individuals who likes a good whinge about where they live but are unprepared to do anything about it - happy to be unhappy basically. BE's full of 'em

BadgeIsBack

Just one thing...in the Eastern states there are cultural pursuits and institutions which grant the very access to European cities, culture and people you often tag as an interest, quite rightly. There is a flow of people in and out.

the troubadour

Well if one positive comes out of the ridiculous post of yours is that you are thinking. Something sadly not often in evidence with your usual postings.

Beoz

Perth and Adelaide are also busy cities. Both have central business districts surround by suburbs of housing. Sydney too. What differentiates Sydney from every other city in Australia is its variety of natural beauty.

If you don't want a busy city strike Perth and Adelaide from the list.

Beoz

Prices of what? Beer, shoes, bananas?

If this were true it has a silver lining. It keeps the resentful whiners like you out.

Unfortunately Australia is never going to be a financial hub. Its de-centralized location and shocking global timezone will see fit to that.

There will always be an element of society that struggle anywhere. Fortunately for Australia it has very few living below the poverty line in comparison to other countries.

Property is not the cheapest, thats for sure, but the best usually comes with a price tag.

Not impossible though. The recent drops in Sydney prices due to restrictions on investor lending have helped.

Time to get a new job and stop blaming others.

Did you miss the mining boom? Aww bad luck.

jon111

so my question is wheres the best cost to living ratio in australia? there must be areas where more people end up with more disposable income?

i assume theres statistics on this?

BadgeIsBack

Hard to say as cheaper areas = lower salaries, or rather, less jobs.

If you are a tradie or a GP and you can work anywhere, regional is cheaper (housing). But still exy. I would say its hard to find a sweet spot in AU. Distance is a tyranny of sorts.

Possibly a sweet spot is a regional centre with access to other centres or a state capital..where you can work from home or avoid a peak hour commute.. (eg)

Success in Au is about being able to set up well..which now might need some capital..to reduce housing cost for a start. (I keep editing my post)..reducing housing cost is a No 1...once you do this,
..you can start to play and experiment.

Beoz

Hard to say because salaries are best where there is the most demand for people.

I was chatting with some locals on the Central Coast of NSW last week who travel to work in Sydney.

They think they have a good life earning Sydney money but paying Central Coast prices for houses by the beach.

Personally the Central Coast would drive me nuts after a week of beach and not much else. The commute would also kill me.

jon111

im a tradie and i think most important is obviously going where theres work but i dont want to just move into a city and struggle to afford things in general. money is important but i dont want to be a slave to my job just to pay the bills.

its a hard one because each person is different and i like all these views but you never know until you get there and see how things pan out. its a very expensive test isnt it lol.

jon111

agreed that is a bloody long commute.

tbf that sounds great if you dont mind the commute i know plenty of people around me who do the london trip everyday so 1 hour 20mins with no traffic. they earn great money and pay our small town prices they love it but i couldnt think of anything worse than that. i dont even have kids yet but i imagine the dad basically doesnt see them in the week. not my cup of tea im afraid. but each to their own i suppose

the troubadour

Australia is an expensive country end off. No one that comes to Australia from a wealthy west European country will tell you different.


Thank goodness for small mercies. We do not want Australia to become a financial hub. Sydney is bad enough as it is and enough banksters in place as it stands.


No Australia's divide in society is not unfortunate it is planned that way. Inequality is huge and growing while those with privilege gain ever more. A massive con job is being undertaken on the Australian people, but don't you trouble your head about it as of course you won't.


Property is nothing but a rip off with vested interests that include government privy to the con.
Australian workers need high incomes to pay for this con. Not too many have much in the way of savings, but excel on personal debt levels.
All in a country where one has largely to fund own retirement and keep money aside for medical expenses.


Recent drops in Sydney are next to nothing. Without government interference in the market over the years prices would have corrected substantially years ago.


The boom had no impact on me. besides house with no mortgage going up almost 300%.


I'll leave the job hunting and worry about work to you proletarians. It seems in your case your sole sense of identity and belonging. You mention it all the time.


Luckily I've far more important things to ponder.

the troubadour

Success in Australia is where the cycle is meaning right timing. You can certainly not work anywhere as a tradie if coming during a downturn.


Small business? Not always easy to get a loan....banks seem to prefer for some reason larger companies.


Oh, according to ABS.(Australian Bureau of Statistics) more than 60% of small business ceases to operate within first three years.


A lot of luck and certainly not the easy place to make out. Although I accept you have perhaps never been in Australia during a down turn.

the troubadour

Agreed commuting is hardly a great way to live a life. As for not seeing kids, best to remember a lot of Aussies work some of the longest hours......so not a lot of joy there either.

BadgeIsBack

Nothing to do with me personally! Some trades are always in demand. As are medics.

Beoz

If you are a tradie then you've got nothing to worry about from the fear mongers on this site.

I know plenty of tradies living in the better suburbs of Sydney. Tradies do well in Australia. Especially in the current construction and home renovation boom.