Moving to Aus advice
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
we will struggle leaving family behind,
This is the reason most people give who return to the UK.
If you spend a reasonable amount of time now visiting family/friends, the grandparents love visiting the children, kids enjoy playing with cousins etc, Christmas is always spent with family, then having none of this support network and a 24 hour flight to see anyone, seems to negatively affect people's ability to settle. Lost count of the number of people who say "we've made some friends, but its not the same'
Knowing before you go how much you are going to miss your family/friends is a telling comment.
This is the reason most people give who return to the UK.
If you spend a reasonable amount of time now visiting family/friends, the grandparents love visiting the children, kids enjoy playing with cousins etc, Christmas is always spent with family, then having none of this support network and a 24 hour flight to see anyone, seems to negatively affect people's ability to settle. Lost count of the number of people who say "we've made some friends, but its not the same'
Knowing before you go how much you are going to miss your family/friends is a telling comment.
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"Daddy sold a successful business to open a burger bar in Orlando?"
Ok. If daddy had a successful business then one would assume he had money, and also made some good money by selling the business. So a year out trying a burger bar business is no great shakes. If daddy wasn't such the businessman he thought he was and failed at a burger business, so what, if he was smart he would have put part of the killings from his UK business aside, and risked some on a burger business. If daddy was dumb then bad luck, there will be some like Troubadour who can't make a go of their experience abroad. I am sure the kids enjoyed the beach and lots of additional sunshine in Florida.
Life experience ....... daddy can't run a burger business.
Ok. If daddy had a successful business then one would assume he had money, and also made some good money by selling the business. So a year out trying a burger bar business is no great shakes. If daddy wasn't such the businessman he thought he was and failed at a burger business, so what, if he was smart he would have put part of the killings from his UK business aside, and risked some on a burger business. If daddy was dumb then bad luck, there will be some like Troubadour who can't make a go of their experience abroad. I am sure the kids enjoyed the beach and lots of additional sunshine in Florida.
Life experience ....... daddy can't run a burger business.
As for your claim of success in business, again it does not necessary suggest any such thing. A successful business does not infer money. It does though not losing it. It takes time to build up reserves, but a business may well be successful in the process of doing so.
Reasons for wanting change may be varied. Most likely a less stressful life Some value life quality over money.
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Australia is very far removed from the country where success of sorts came rather easily for past generations.
Obviously all is possible but downsides need to be seriously considered.
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They may well have bought into the 'picture' too often 'sold ' over in UK. Shows like 'Wanted Down Under' for example. The glossy promotion all very well but a dose of reality can shine a different light onto the matter.
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The majority of people who know we lived in Australia then returned home day "oh you must miss that lifestyle hugely" I ask if they have been (because they seem to know the lifestyle) and they say no but they watch all the TV programmes/shows on aus !! the ones who don't think we're mad for leaving have either visited Aus on a few occasions, have family who live in Australia or have lived in Australia themselves. I am all for "giving things ago" we did that ourselves but would I risk it if we were doing "well" for ourselves .... then no...because doing "well" is really a blessing in this day and age....anywhere.
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The majority of people who know we lived in Australia then returned home day "oh you must miss that lifestyle hugely" I ask if they have been (because they seem to know the lifestyle) and they say no but they watch all the TV programmes/shows on aus !! the ones who don't think we're mad for leaving have either visited Aus on a few occasions, have family who live in Australia or have lived in Australia themselves. I am all for "giving things ago" we did that ourselves but would I risk it if we were doing "well" for ourselves .... then no...because doing "well" is really a blessing in this day and age....anywhere.
It has long become a business. Australia wants turbo population growth to grow/save the economy. How these people manage once arrived here is of little concern.
Life is expensive. It can prove very hard to develop 'real' friendships. People tend to be more standoffish than expected. Like all things some may benefit. Best just don't take it as a given. People should be aware of a break in relationships as well. One side likes it other detests it. All sorts of dynamics can come from that.
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Well said and what always surprises me the most is that people wanting to move to Australia, Canada etc. seem to be focused on the whole country and the whole country is great. If it's the UK, people will look at every aspect and the same person will not even move 50 miles away because they feel the school in City A is not as good as the one in City B. As the troubadour mentioned, sunshine is of course the big seller but even my Spanish friends look at other factors first and sunshine is the bonus and not the main factor. No doubt I also like the sun/sea and we're lucky enough to have a small place in Spain and could drive there before Covid but so far no job offer has made me want to move there permanently.
More likely a case of successful marketing these days on the part of Australia, than any really meaningful betterment in living standards.
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At some point, you need to draw the line, and not let your mistakes influence the decisions of others. Using reality TV shows is now drawing a very long bow.
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Well said and what always surprises me the most is that people wanting to move to Australia, Canada etc. seem to be focused on the whole country and the whole country is great. If it's the UK, people will look at every aspect and the same person will not even move 50 miles away because they feel the school in City A is not as good as the one in City B. As the troubadour mentioned, sunshine is of course the big seller but even my Spanish friends look at other factors first and sunshine is the bonus and not the main factor. No doubt I also like the sun/sea and we're lucky enough to have a small place in Spain and could drive there before Covid but so far no job offer has made me want to move there permanently.
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
for emigrating Brits.
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Any professional or trade like job is very hard to get in Spain for a British expat. Language for starters can be a barrier. Spain is hardly renowned for being the centre of excellence for anything other than partying for a few months of the year. If jobs and sunshine are important better to be in a big metropolitan area with a beach on its door step.
#45
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Can I suggest that those of you that want to discuss the politics of emigrating to Australia, or elsewhere, open a thread for that topic.
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