Moving to Aus advice
Oct 18th 2020, 6:02 pm
#16
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
I think sometimes people are buying into a dream. many have unrealistic expectations and pictures of their destination that are out of kilter with reality.
Oct 18th 2020, 10:13 pm
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
If the OP ever moved? Moving for a bettter life for the children seems to be mentioned all the time but I often wonder if it's really about kids these days. Nothing against OP personally but how often do you hear parents say it's about kids and in reality it's the parents who are unhappy with their own life and kids are actually used as an excuse. There's nothing wrong wanting to have a better life but I often see the same parents more interested in their mobile phones when the kids would actually be happy to play outside. The parents complain when it's raining outside and outdoor living is not possible, although the child never complained before. The parents are willing to give up a successful business or job for a better life for the kids and might even move to parts of the world that are more likely to suffer from climate change? If the better job and location comes with financial benefits, then take the chance but maybe some people should accept that their life isn't as bad as they make it and kids are actually pretty happy where they are.
I can understand a young couple, child free, deciding to strike out and see what the world has to offer, but they usually have the ability to return, if so desired.
Oct 18th 2020, 10:22 pm
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
Indeed. Marketing is good at selling 'a dream'. The reality may be, offen is very different. But migration is big business these days so little will change.
Oct 20th 2020, 12:59 am
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
You only live once. Get out and explore. Worse case scenario, you had a life experience.
Oct 20th 2020, 1:54 am
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Oct 20th 2020, 8:55 am
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
Lol. Easy to say when you own multiple properties and always had luck and plenty of cash. Don't forget that for some people 20K is a lot of money and life experience can be different for all. I agree and go out and explore but that could be anything.
Oct 20th 2020, 11:07 am
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Don't put so much emphasis on 20k. Life experiences are priceless.
Oct 20th 2020, 2:17 pm
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True but life experiences can be anywhere, be it planting a tree or climbing up a mountain. I don't know many families with kids who said it was a great experience when all failed. It was said before but look at the families who used to move to Orlando after a trip to Disney. Daddy sold the business back home and opened a burger bar to get a visa and after a few months the dream was over and all money gone. This is worst case but unfortunately still happens and even in Spain forum, people have been told to not burn their bridges and be careful buying that pub after a nice holiday. It can all go well but first you need the right job in the right area and take it from there.
Oct 20th 2020, 7:55 pm
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Security is good. I thought of that a lot when I was on Skid Row ! Not sure that taking chances is always smart - especially when children are involved.
Oct 20th 2020, 8:56 pm
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
True but life experiences can be anywhere, be it planting a tree or climbing up a mountain. I don't know many families with kids who said it was a great experience when all failed. It was said before but look at the families who used to move to Orlando after a trip to Disney. Daddy sold the business back home and opened a burger bar to get a visa and after a few months the dream was over and all money gone. This is worst case but unfortunately still happens and even in Spain forum, people have been told to not burn their bridges and be careful buying that pub after a nice holiday. It can all go well but first you need the right job in the right area and take it from there.
Ok. If daddy had a successful business then one would assume he had money, and also made some good money by selling the business. So a year out trying a burger bar business is no great shakes. If daddy wasn't such the businessman he thought he was and failed at a burger business, so what, if he was smart he would have put part of the killings from his UK business aside, and risked some on a burger business. If daddy was dumb then bad luck, there will be some like Troubadour who can't make a go of their experience abroad. I am sure the kids enjoyed the beach and lots of additional sunshine in Florida.
Life experience ....... daddy can't run a burger business.
Oct 21st 2020, 7:12 am
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"Daddy sold a successful business to open a burger bar in Orlando?"
Ok. If daddy had a successful business then one would assume he had money, and also made some good money by selling the business. So a year out trying a burger bar business is no great shakes. If daddy wasn't such the businessman he thought he was and failed at a burger business, so what, if he was smart he would have put part of the killings from his UK business aside, and risked some on a burger business. If daddy was dumb then bad luck, there will be some like Troubadour who can't make a go of their experience abroad. I am sure the kids enjoyed the beach and lots of additional sunshine in Florida.
Life experience ....... daddy can't run a burger business.
Ok. If daddy had a successful business then one would assume he had money, and also made some good money by selling the business. So a year out trying a burger bar business is no great shakes. If daddy wasn't such the businessman he thought he was and failed at a burger business, so what, if he was smart he would have put part of the killings from his UK business aside, and risked some on a burger business. If daddy was dumb then bad luck, there will be some like Troubadour who can't make a go of their experience abroad. I am sure the kids enjoyed the beach and lots of additional sunshine in Florida.
Life experience ....... daddy can't run a burger business.
Oct 21st 2020, 7:00 pm
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
we will struggle leaving family behind,
This is the reason most people give who return to the UK.
If you spend a reasonable amount of time now visiting family/friends, the grandparents love visiting the children, kids enjoy playing with cousins etc, Christmas is always spent with family, then having none of this support network and a 24 hour flight to see anyone, seems to negatively affect people's ability to settle. Lost count of the number of people who say "we've made some friends, but its not the same'
Knowing before you go how much you are going to miss your family/friends is a telling comment.
This is the reason most people give who return to the UK.
If you spend a reasonable amount of time now visiting family/friends, the grandparents love visiting the children, kids enjoy playing with cousins etc, Christmas is always spent with family, then having none of this support network and a 24 hour flight to see anyone, seems to negatively affect people's ability to settle. Lost count of the number of people who say "we've made some friends, but its not the same'
Knowing before you go how much you are going to miss your family/friends is a telling comment.
Oct 22nd 2020, 5:11 am
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Re: Moving to Aus advice
Any business that is successful is swimming in money. Anything short of that is not a successful business and worth giving up for a punt elsewhere.
Oct 22nd 2020, 8:07 am
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That's all relative and no business is the same, be it painter/decorator, farmer etc. and it can takes many years to grow your customer base. Money in each location is different too and for some people 50K is a paid off house but in your location it's just your rent in 2 years.