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Munchmel Jan 6th 2007 10:38 pm

Mortgages?
 
Hi, I've done some online mortgage calculators, but can't seem to suss out how they decide borrowing criteria in Oz. Obviously its individually assessed, but there doesn't seem to be the UK equiv like 4.5 x single salary or 3 x joint salary. It seems to be based on outgoings and dependants (which with 4 kids is wiping out our mortgage possibilities!! :) ) Any advice/explanations appreciated. plus do you have to wait 6 months to build up a credit rating?

Mel
:confused:

esperanza Jan 6th 2007 10:49 pm

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I've been trying to work this one out too - it would be good to have a basic guide like 3 x joint income, just to get an idea of what we might be able to afford.

midgetjan Jan 6th 2007 11:15 pm

Re: Mortgages?
 
Interested to see a reply to this one. Also do you have to be in Australia for a set period of time before obtaining a mortgage?

This is a useful link though to answer some queries.

http://www.infochoice.com.au/aspx/

khoardiroy Jan 6th 2007 11:21 pm

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If you have permenant residency then no problems.

Your a first time buyer so you get a $7000 grant.

Its not about wage.

We were offered a stupid mortgage but it would mean we couldn't enjoy life.

Wages are lower here but so is the cost of living.

Find an area you like (trust the locals not the ex-pats....sorry folks not you lot but other people were arrogant snobs who looked down on areas that were not flush). You'll get housing areas in all subburbs. Look for the nice part of a subburb.

Go to a LOCAL mortgage advisor..not smart line. The advisor gets a commission from the lender - no charge to you - and they do all the paper work.

We got a 4 bedroom with a pool and garden in a great area and can still enjoy life!

Feel free to disregard all the above as your own experience suits.

midgetjan Jan 6th 2007 11:44 pm

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Thank you for advice. I can't believe how naive I feel. Everything seems so confusing.

We are going to Perth hopefully in June. Wondered how much a 3/4 bedroomed house would cost. Son would love a pool but it will just depend on cost. I have looked online at real estate but as you say you've no idea which are the decent areas.

I am not a snob and don't care how "Flash" the property is but by the same token I don't want to end up in a very bad area either.

:confused:

NickyC Jan 6th 2007 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Munchmel (Post 4256783)
Hi, I've done some online mortgage calculators, but can't seem to suss out how they decide borrowing criteria in Oz. Obviously its individually assessed, but there doesn't seem to be the UK equiv like 4.5 x single salary or 3 x joint salary. It seems to be based on outgoings and dependants (which with 4 kids is wiping out our mortgage possibilities!! :) ) Any advice/explanations appreciated. plus do you have to wait 6 months to build up a credit rating?

Mel
:confused:

The amount that a mortgage company/bank will lend is based on how much you can afford to repay. Someone on $50k with no other debts and no dependants has more cash available for mortgage repayments than the next person (also on $50k) who might have personal loans, six credit cards and four kids. Banks have a legal obligation not to lend more than the borrower can afford to repay (they've been in trouble in the past for doing this) and consequently need to know how many kids/debts you have - to ensure that you retain enough cash to feed them!

That's not to say they're mean with their money - they will calculate a loan amount where the repayments could take up every last cent you have left over - hence the silly amounts that they offer some people.

khoardiroy Jan 7th 2007 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by midgetjan (Post 4256911)
Son would love a pool but it will just depend on cost. I have looked online at real estate but as you say you've no idea which are the decent areas.



:confused:

Two good sites are

http://www.realestate.com.au/

and

http://www.domain.com.au/?s_cid=1860

but viewing and buying are very different. I think you should rent first...suss out where you want to go then go for it.

Nomore Jan 7th 2007 12:23 am

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Originally Posted by midgetjan (Post 4256911)
Thank you for advice. I can't believe how naive I feel. Everything seems so confusing.

We are going to Perth hopefully in June. Wondered how much a 3/4 bedroomed house would cost. Son would love a pool but it will just depend on cost. I have looked online at real estate but as you say you've no idea which are the decent areas.

I am not a snob and don't care how "Flash" the property is but by the same token I don't want to end up in a very bad area either.

:confused:

We are in Perth and arrived here in the middle of the house boom.
We got a morgage no problem, even though neither of us were working.
We did have a deposit though.
Unfortunatley we are now being ripped off with the morgage, paying bigger monthly payments as our interest rate is higher than normal since we had no jobs. We are working now but are tied to the debt for 12 months, then we can buy ourselves out of it, which we will do as being ripped off isn't very nice is it.
Be careful what you buy out here as i think the houses are not worth the money at all.

khoardiroy Jan 7th 2007 12:32 am

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Hmmm ours was. It cost half of what a Renfrew/UK equivilant would cost

NickyC Jan 7th 2007 12:42 am

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4256991)
Unfortunatley we are now being ripped off with the morgage, paying bigger monthly payments as our interest rate is higher than normal since we had no jobs. We are working now but are tied to the debt for 12 months, then we can buy ourselves out of it, which we will do as being ripped off isn't very nice is it.

Surely you were aware of what the interest rate and terms were before you signed up for the loan? No-one tricked you, twisted your arm and forced you to take it, did they? So it's hardly a rip-off.

The rate was higher than usual because you were a higher risk than the average bloke with a job and a history. I'd have thought you should be thankful that anyone was prepared to take the risk and give you a loan at all...

Loz4Oz Jan 7th 2007 12:44 am

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I'm reading this thread with great interest. We will be flying out to Melbourne a week today :scared: :scared: :scared: .
We are planning to rent for six months but the more we think about it the more we would like to buy ASAP. We have a good idea of whereabouts we would like to settle, do you think we would still be wise to rent first and then buy?

Cheers, Loz.

onepearlyb Jan 7th 2007 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by Loz4Oz (Post 4257019)
I'm reading this thread with great interest. We will be flying out to Melbourne a week today :scared: :scared: :scared: .
We are planning to rent for six months but the more we think about it the more we would like to buy ASAP. We have a good idea of whereabouts we would like to settle, do you think we would still be wise to rent first and then buy?

Cheers, Loz.


Loz,

Planning the same thing as you - wondered if it was possible to take a 6 month lease out as opposed to a year. We could offer a good ammount upfront if it would entice a 6 month lease.
Any takers?

*pearly*

fastrhino Jan 7th 2007 5:38 am

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do you have to be in permenent employment too, most of the jobs i see are casual to start with. will a lender still do you a mortgage on this basis,,,or will you get shafted on the interest rate?

we were thinking of initialy renting for 6 months too,,,but we feel this is dead money, may be better to find a house as quickly as possible.

live in temporary furnished till then.

mick

onepearlyb Jan 7th 2007 6:32 am

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Know what your saying but the problem with renting being "dead money" is that the other option - to rent a short let place for say 2-4 weeks while you find somewhere to buy, is that the short lets are AT LEAST $150 night which mounts up to be a fair whack over a month. ( at least $4500 before other costs like internet set up etc ) If you went for a rented place for say $350 a week - that'd be $1400 a month!!!!!! BIG difference.
It's a tricky scenario but I'd say rent a short let for a week or so when you first arrive and spend that week or so finding a 6 month rental or shorter rental so that you have time to look around areas instead of perhaps rushing into making a purchase you might regret.
I know it's really difficult but that "dead money" I'm highly likely to spend on a rental might just buy me the time I need to find a place I really love.

Hope this helps.I've rented before in Melbourne so I have a rough idea of prices etc.

*pearly*

Ian & Sharon Jan 7th 2007 6:42 am

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I,m flying out to Brisbane in 7 hours :D

I've got a mortgage sorted out and I'm on a 457, the lady said there would be no problem.

Here's one of the examples

OPTION 1

Loan amount $200,000

Interest Rate 7.47% Variable

Repayments $1,394 per month on Principle & Interest

$697 per fortnight on Principle & Interest



She's sorting out a letter for the morning which will say something along the lines of "yes he has got X in the bank and yes he can borrow X amount"


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