Melbourne best city in world again!
Feb 5th 2004, 9:19 pm
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Melbourne best city in world again!
Thought you Melbourne wannabes might like this from todays THE AGE newspaper:
Melbourne ranked world's top city
February 6, 2004
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Melbourne has retained its position as the best city in the world to call home.
Often derided as Bleak City by Sydneysiders, Melbourne topped a survey of 130 cities, narrowly beating out the other four Australian capitals surveyed - because its weather rated the best.
Sydney lost ground because its crime rate was rated on a par with New York and London.
1= Melbourne
1= Vancouver
1= Vienna
4 Perth
5 Geneva
6= Adelaide
6= Brisbane
6= Copenhagen
6= Montreal
6= Oslo
6= Sydney
6= Zurich
13= Helsinki
13= Stockholm
13= Toronto
Others:
19= Auckland
19= Honolulu
28= Paris
45= London
51= Dublin
51= New York
57= Washington
64= Athens
75= Beijing
130 Port Moresby
The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) survey ranked Melbourne, Vancouver and Vienna as the best cities for expatriates to live, with Perth fourth and Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney equal sixth.
Geneva was ranked fifth, while Papua New Guinea's capital Port Moresby kept the title it took in the last survey in October 2002 as the worst.
"Melbourne pretty much top scored in everything," said survey co-editor Jon Copestake.
"But the difference between all the Australian cities is minimal. One thing Sydney had different to the other cities was a higher crime rate, and it's climate. It's level of humidity was worse than Melbourne's."
The London-based EIU assessed the level of hardship for expatriates in the 130 cities, using 12 factors including housing, education, recreational activities, health, climate and terrorism.
Cities were rated one to five in the 12 categories, with one meaning there was no hardship and five indicating extreme hardship.
Melbourne received the perfect one in each category, including its unpredictable weather, to give it an overall score of one.
The other Australian cities were all given a two for climate, while Adelaide also received two for housing, Brisbane and Perth scored two for transport and Sydney for its crime. Port Moresby received five for crime and an overall score of 80.
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While Perth was given an overall mark of 1.1, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney scored 1.2.
The heightened terrorist threat only had a minimal impact on western cities, even those in the United States, largely because of newly developed security measures.
The highest ranked US city was Honolulu in 19th on eight points, while New York was 51st with 16 and Washington was the lowest of 16 American cities in the survey at 57th, mainly due to a higher risk of terrorism giving it an overall score of 19.
London was equal 45th, along with Los Angeles, Madrid and San Francisco.
Melbourne ranked world's top city
February 6, 2004
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Melbourne has retained its position as the best city in the world to call home.
Often derided as Bleak City by Sydneysiders, Melbourne topped a survey of 130 cities, narrowly beating out the other four Australian capitals surveyed - because its weather rated the best.
Sydney lost ground because its crime rate was rated on a par with New York and London.
1= Melbourne
1= Vancouver
1= Vienna
4 Perth
5 Geneva
6= Adelaide
6= Brisbane
6= Copenhagen
6= Montreal
6= Oslo
6= Sydney
6= Zurich
13= Helsinki
13= Stockholm
13= Toronto
Others:
19= Auckland
19= Honolulu
28= Paris
45= London
51= Dublin
51= New York
57= Washington
64= Athens
75= Beijing
130 Port Moresby
The Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) survey ranked Melbourne, Vancouver and Vienna as the best cities for expatriates to live, with Perth fourth and Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney equal sixth.
Geneva was ranked fifth, while Papua New Guinea's capital Port Moresby kept the title it took in the last survey in October 2002 as the worst.
"Melbourne pretty much top scored in everything," said survey co-editor Jon Copestake.
"But the difference between all the Australian cities is minimal. One thing Sydney had different to the other cities was a higher crime rate, and it's climate. It's level of humidity was worse than Melbourne's."
The London-based EIU assessed the level of hardship for expatriates in the 130 cities, using 12 factors including housing, education, recreational activities, health, climate and terrorism.
Cities were rated one to five in the 12 categories, with one meaning there was no hardship and five indicating extreme hardship.
Melbourne received the perfect one in each category, including its unpredictable weather, to give it an overall score of one.
The other Australian cities were all given a two for climate, while Adelaide also received two for housing, Brisbane and Perth scored two for transport and Sydney for its crime. Port Moresby received five for crime and an overall score of 80.
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While Perth was given an overall mark of 1.1, Adelaide, Brisbane and Sydney scored 1.2.
The heightened terrorist threat only had a minimal impact on western cities, even those in the United States, largely because of newly developed security measures.
The highest ranked US city was Honolulu in 19th on eight points, while New York was 51st with 16 and Washington was the lowest of 16 American cities in the survey at 57th, mainly due to a higher risk of terrorism giving it an overall score of 19.
London was equal 45th, along with Los Angeles, Madrid and San Francisco.
Feb 6th 2004, 1:46 am
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Great stuff - I can't agree more its a great place. Just wish I didn't have to work....................
Feb 6th 2004, 7:01 am
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Originally posted by joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
Nice one! For those of us living here its what we already know, for those of you who don't, this is why you should!
Like N said shame we have to work, oh no, i don't do i!
Feb 6th 2004, 7:06 am
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Originally posted by joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
Feb 6th 2004, 7:25 am
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Originally posted by joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
Stick the article, up your arse hole:lecture:
joem
I don't think little joel's city made the nasty listy poos muhahahaha...
Feb 6th 2004, 10:17 am
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Fantastic news! Great to hear. And the other Aussie cities were right up there again.
Feb 6th 2004, 1:03 pm
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It is fair to point out that the survey proclaims Melbourne as the (equal) world's most LIVEABLE city, according to the criteria used by the EIU. It isn't saying it is the world's best city and you can argue about the criteria used but it is nice to see some confirmation of what I have thought for a long time. As jez pointed out it is significant that 5 Australian cities are included in the top 10 of the survey too.
We just await all the posts pointing out why the survey is wrong -but when it is all said and done it is a subjective, personal thing that the survey is trying to make objective.
OzTennis
We just await all the posts pointing out why the survey is wrong -but when it is all said and done it is a subjective, personal thing that the survey is trying to make objective.
OzTennis
Feb 6th 2004, 1:35 pm
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Re: Melbourne best city in world again!
Dont these people know that Nottingham is the worlds best city. 
It must be cause Jo and Twiggy tell me every morning on Trent FM.
Obviously must be a HUGE mistake by the report writers.
TT
It must be cause Jo and Twiggy tell me every morning on Trent FM.
Obviously must be a HUGE mistake by the report writers.
TT
Feb 6th 2004, 1:43 pm
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yippee!!!
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Feb 7th 2004, 1:41 am
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Originally posted by OzTennis
It is fair to point out that the survey proclaims Melbourne as the (equal) world's most LIVEABLE city, according to the criteria used by the EIU. It isn't saying it is the world's best city and you can argue about the criteria used but it is nice to see some confirmation of what I have thought for a long time. As jez pointed out it is significant that 5 Australian cities are included in the top 10 of the survey too.
We just await all the posts pointing out why the survey is wrong -but when it is all said and done it is a subjective, personal thing that the survey is trying to make objective.
OzTennis
It is fair to point out that the survey proclaims Melbourne as the (equal) world's most LIVEABLE city, according to the criteria used by the EIU. It isn't saying it is the world's best city and you can argue about the criteria used but it is nice to see some confirmation of what I have thought for a long time. As jez pointed out it is significant that 5 Australian cities are included in the top 10 of the survey too.
We just await all the posts pointing out why the survey is wrong -but when it is all said and done it is a subjective, personal thing that the survey is trying to make objective.
OzTennis
Feb 7th 2004, 8:40 pm
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Told you Vienna and environs are quite pleasant!
(Heading back to not too far from Vienna. )
(Heading back to not too far from Vienna.
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Feb 7th 2004, 9:20 pm
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It's gonna be a hot one here today
38 degrees and a total fire ban.
When I went for my walk this morning, all the volunteers were having a meeting at the CFA station, so they're on standby too.
Regards
38 degrees and a total fire ban.
When I went for my walk this morning, all the volunteers were having a meeting at the CFA station, so they're on standby too.
Regards
Feb 7th 2004, 9:49 pm
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Perth number 4!
Just thought I'd post what The West Australian says about becoming 4th:
http://www.thewest.com.au/20040207/n...sto119571.html
Perth proves it's 'Popularville'
By Andrew Gregory
EXPATRIATES have named Perth as one of the best cities in the world to live and work.
A survey conducted in 130 cities by The Economist magazine found Perth came fourth as a preferred base. Melbourne, Vancouver and Vienna came in ahead.
WA Tourism Commission chief executive Richard Muirhead said the result meant Perth was no longer "Dullsville" or "Glumsville".
"Given it is rated fourth in the world by an expatriate population, which has no doubt wide-ranging experience of attractive locations, this rather puts paid to the notion of Perth as Dullsville," he said.
The challenge for the commission and the tourism industry was to convey this message more clearly to the international market.
"Positive feedback from expatriates living in our city is a very effective marketing tool for Western Australia," he said.
Melbourne outshone Perth in the eyes of expatriate workers because of its transport and, incredibly, its weather.
Cities are judged on 12 factors divided into three categories - health and safety, culture and environment, and infrastructure.
Beilby WA manager Mark Nicholas said he was not surprised that Melbourne's weather was a favourite with expats, especially the British, yet Perth had much to offer.
"The big plus we have got here, particularly if you are coming from Europe or South-East Asia, is space. Personal space and the cost of living," he said.
KPMG Perth chairman Steve Scudamore, who came to Perth in 1978 for a two-year stint and decided to stay, said several of the firm's employees also had moved here permanently.
"That is a reflection of what people think about Perth as a place to live," he said.
Austal Ships executive chairman John Rothwell said Perth had been an attraction for crews of luxury yachts, naval architects and draughtspeople.
"While owners of the luxury boats tend to run their businesses from Europe or the US and, as a result, find Perth too remote, the crews of the boats seem to look forward to coming to Perth," he said.
"Not just because of the weather and lifestyle but also because it's a beautiful city."
Hamersley Iron human resources general manager Michael Bisset said people recruited from overseas tended to be more for senior positions.
ChevronTexaco Australia external affairs manager James Pearson said Perth's attraction was its great lifestyle combined with working on the world-class Gorgon project.
About 8 per cent of ChevronTexaco's 450 workers in Australia are expatriates.
Woodside Petroleum spokesman Rob Millhouse said one of the selling points for attracting people to work for the company was Perth.
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http://www.thewest.com.au/20040207/n...sto119571.html
Perth proves it's 'Popularville'
By Andrew Gregory
EXPATRIATES have named Perth as one of the best cities in the world to live and work.
A survey conducted in 130 cities by The Economist magazine found Perth came fourth as a preferred base. Melbourne, Vancouver and Vienna came in ahead.
WA Tourism Commission chief executive Richard Muirhead said the result meant Perth was no longer "Dullsville" or "Glumsville".
"Given it is rated fourth in the world by an expatriate population, which has no doubt wide-ranging experience of attractive locations, this rather puts paid to the notion of Perth as Dullsville," he said.
The challenge for the commission and the tourism industry was to convey this message more clearly to the international market.
"Positive feedback from expatriates living in our city is a very effective marketing tool for Western Australia," he said.
Melbourne outshone Perth in the eyes of expatriate workers because of its transport and, incredibly, its weather.
Cities are judged on 12 factors divided into three categories - health and safety, culture and environment, and infrastructure.
Beilby WA manager Mark Nicholas said he was not surprised that Melbourne's weather was a favourite with expats, especially the British, yet Perth had much to offer.
"The big plus we have got here, particularly if you are coming from Europe or South-East Asia, is space. Personal space and the cost of living," he said.
KPMG Perth chairman Steve Scudamore, who came to Perth in 1978 for a two-year stint and decided to stay, said several of the firm's employees also had moved here permanently.
"That is a reflection of what people think about Perth as a place to live," he said.
Austal Ships executive chairman John Rothwell said Perth had been an attraction for crews of luxury yachts, naval architects and draughtspeople.
"While owners of the luxury boats tend to run their businesses from Europe or the US and, as a result, find Perth too remote, the crews of the boats seem to look forward to coming to Perth," he said.
"Not just because of the weather and lifestyle but also because it's a beautiful city."
Hamersley Iron human resources general manager Michael Bisset said people recruited from overseas tended to be more for senior positions.
ChevronTexaco Australia external affairs manager James Pearson said Perth's attraction was its great lifestyle combined with working on the world-class Gorgon project.
About 8 per cent of ChevronTexaco's 450 workers in Australia are expatriates.
Woodside Petroleum spokesman Rob Millhouse said one of the selling points for attracting people to work for the company was Perth.
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© 2004 West Australian Newspapers Limited
All Rights Reserved.
Feb 7th 2004, 10:20 pm
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Originally posted by Jaykay
It's gonna be a hot one here today
38 degrees and a total fire ban.
When I went for my walk this morning, all the volunteers were having a meeting at the CFA station, so they're on standby too.
Regards
It's gonna be a hot one here today
38 degrees and a total fire ban.
When I went for my walk this morning, all the volunteers were having a meeting at the CFA station, so they're on standby too.
Regards
Gonna be hotter in a few days when a certain person lands hey J???