Medicare, u still need Private Insurance ?
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Medicare, u still need Private Insurance ?
Hi,
This juz cross my mind, with Medicare do one still need a Private Medical Insurance ? what type of medical coverage does Medicare provide to an individual (either Australia Citizen or PR) ?
This juz cross my mind, with Medicare do one still need a Private Medical Insurance ? what type of medical coverage does Medicare provide to an individual (either Australia Citizen or PR) ?
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Re: Medicare, u still need Private Insurance ?
The only benefit from having private hospital insurance is that waiting lists for treatment are shorter and you are more likely to get a private room. In saying that, there are no waiting lists in the public system if you need immediate treatment. Waiting lists are only in effect for electable surgery and non-urgent problems, just like the NHS.
Frankly, private hospital insurance is a waste of money and for every person who takes out private cover, the government pulls money out of the public system, so the whole system ends up weaker as a result.
However, it is recommended to get private extras cover. Unfortunately, Medicare does not cover dental, so you can save yourself some money taking out extras cover, which provides for dental treatment, as well as natural therapies, optical, etc.
I have lived in Australia almost all my life and I have never had private hospital insurance, nor has my family, despite requiring occasional hospital visits for accidents and illness.
You're a fool if you take out private hospital insurance - you'll just be giving your money away to company profit - unless for some reason you won't be covered by Medicare.
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Our family has had the best of care and we do not have health insurance.
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Count me amongst the fools. We have had private insurance since forever and there have been a couple of times where the wait for a minor procedure which, whilst minor in their eyes, had a major impact in my life, was shortened by between 1 and 2 YEARS (we have/had really bad waitlists).
Yes it is expensive and for life threatening conditions public medicine will do very well but for other things you can be waiting in considerable pain for an awfully long time.
Yes it is expensive and for life threatening conditions public medicine will do very well but for other things you can be waiting in considerable pain for an awfully long time.
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I would also recommend ambulance cover (would probably be included in an extras package) as these trips can be very costly and the cover for a family of 4 is pretty cheap ($80 a year)
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It costs us less to have the cheapest private hospital cover than it is to pay the extra 1% Medicare Levy - so I guess we're fools too .
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We're fools too, I guess. The extras cover is worth it to us. Both my husband and I wear glasses and we visit the dentist at least twice a year. I'm also going to need a knee replacement in a couple of years and will be very pleased to choose my own surgeon rather than luck of the draw at the public hospital. (Not that the public surgeons aren't top of the heap, just I want the choice of surgeon and to know that my care will all be by the same team).
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You also avoid Lifetime Health Care loading if you take out health insurance in good time.
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I'm also going to need a knee replacement in a couple of years and will be very pleased to choose my own surgeon rather than luck of the draw at the public hospital. (Not that the public surgeons aren't top of the heap, just I want the choice of surgeon and to know that my care will all be by the same team).
At least you won't be on the "long" waiting list for elective surgery. People can apparently suffer for years waiting.
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Re: Medicare, u still need Private Insurance ?
Interesting discussion and inputs on Medicare.
How about Dental Care Coverage ?
How about Dental Care Coverage ?
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Yep, we are amongst the fools too. Our trips to the physio and massage therapist this year and our dental cover more than justifies the cost to us. Added to that the fact we don't have to pay the 1% Medicare loading.
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In my humble opinion you DO need private insurance. Dental costs are seriously expensive as are all the other extras. I had a bad run or luck last year and my total medical costs not covered by public were in the region of $20,000. I got $4,000 back from the insurers and $4,000 on tax so a shortfall of $12,000. The insurer also paid out for other stuff as did medicare. The problem was dental - a complicated problem with an old bridge and a tiny mole near my eye. There is a also a levy for those above a certain income level and it is easier to take out insurance when you first arrive even if you are older. Well that is my two pence worth. Sue
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In my humble opinion you DO need private insurance. Dental costs are seriously expensive as are all the other extras. I had a bad run or luck last year and my total medical costs not covered by public were in the region of $20,000. I got $4,000 back from the insurers and $4,000 on tax so a shortfall of $12,000. The insurer also paid out for other stuff as did medicare. The problem was dental - a complicated problem with an old bridge and a tiny mole near my eye. There is a also a levy for those above a certain income level and it is easier to take out insurance when you first arrive even if you are older. Well that is my two pence worth. Sue
Any ideal what the cost of a basic Medical and Dental Insurance for a family of 4 - 3 Adults and 1 child, age 10 ?
Thanks alot.