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lisaW1610 Apr 30th 2017 4:42 am

Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
My husband and I are looking into making the move from Scotland Uk to Perth Au. We have 2 children, 7 and 4, and expecting number 3.

My husband works as an Estimating engineer and has experience in rail, electric, renewable energy and oil and gas. We were told there is a growing need for applicants in this sector in Perth??
We are looking for advice on suburbs that are reasonably close to the city that have good schools and are family orientated, we would be renting at first and think we could afford about 700 per week. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Dorothy Apr 30th 2017 10:24 am

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by lisaW1610 (Post 12241530)
My husband and I are looking into making the move from Scotland Uk to Perth Au. We have 2 children, 7 and 4, and expecting number 3.

My husband works as an Estimating engineer and has experience in rail, electric, renewable energy and oil and gas. We were told there is a growing need for applicants in this sector in Perth??
We are looking for advice on suburbs that are reasonably close to the city that have good schools and are family orientated, we would be renting at first and think we could afford about 700 per week. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

What visa are you coming on? Visa first, areas to live next.

lisaW1610 Apr 30th 2017 5:02 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
Hi, We have PR. We stayed in Sydney for 3 years and left about 4 years ago.

xizzles Apr 30th 2017 5:47 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
I'm no expert when it comes to Perth - actually let me rephrase that: according to my wife, I'm simply no expert, end of - but we will be looking at properties in Subiaco and Mount Hawley this coming June on our visit to Perth. I've been told by true experts that those are good suburbs to start off with.

Good luck!

verystormy Apr 30th 2017 5:54 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
You are aware that West Australia is in a deep recession at the moment?

No, your husbands skills are not in demand in Perth. Far from it.

Beoz Apr 30th 2017 5:56 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12241811)
I'm no expert when it comes to Perth - actually let me rephrase that: according to my wife, I'm simply no expert, end of - but we will be looking at properties in Subiaco and Mount Hawley this coming June on our visit to Perth. I've been told by true experts that those are good suburbs to start off with.

Good luck!

And they should listen to the property investor who thinks Perth has hit rock bottom. There may be an underlying message there. :)

xizzles Apr 30th 2017 6:05 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12241816)
And they should listen to the property investor who thinks Perth has hit rock bottom. There may be an underlying message there. :)

Oh for heaven's sake haha. I'm just trying to think out of the box and perhaps do a viable visa run between the Lion City and the Lucky Land via the most accessible point, viz Perth.

It's all very preliminary at the moment and as this will strictly be a owner occupier apartment/villa/townhouse, I'm setting a very tight budget of no more than $500,000. Hardly the stuff that would cause a ripple really.

Dorothy Apr 30th 2017 6:09 pm

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Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12241822)
Oh for heaven's sake haha. I'm just trying to think out of the box and perhaps do a viable visa run between the Lion City and the Lucky Land via the most accessible point, viz Perth.

It's all very preliminary at the moment and as this will strictly be a owner occupier apartment/villa/townhouse, I'm setting a very tight budget of no more than $500,000. Hardly the stuff that would cause a ripple really.

You won't get much on Subi or Mt Lawley (I presume you meant Mt Lawley) for 500k. Leederville is supposed to be goid calue or look further out for good deals.

xizzles Apr 30th 2017 6:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12241824)
You won't get much on Subi or Mt Lawley (I presume you meant Mt Lawley) for 500k. Leederville is supposed to be goid calue or look further out for good deals.

You're not wrong there, Dot. A quick glance at domain.com.au returned a paltry 1/2 a dozen properties at Mt Lawley (sorry for the earlier typo) and a big fat squat all in Subiaco!

Dorothy Apr 30th 2017 6:31 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12241830)
You're not wrong there, Dot. A quick glance at domain.com.au returned a paltry 1/2 a dozen properties at Mt Lawley (sorry for the earlier typo) and a big fat squat all in Subiaco!

Let me know when you're comi g and I'll take you around to some nice places. There are definitely some hidden gems here but you have to know where to look

Beoz Apr 30th 2017 6:37 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12241822)
Oh for heaven's sake haha. I'm just trying to think out of the box and perhaps do a viable visa run between the Lion City and the Lucky Land via the most accessible point, viz Perth.

It's all very preliminary at the moment and as this will strictly be a owner occupier apartment/villa/townhouse, I'm setting a very tight budget of no more than $500,000. Hardly the stuff that would cause a ripple really.

Hey, nothing wrong with that. If you think you can make money from it go nuts. You won't be the first to think Perth might be a good buy right now.

Amazulu Apr 30th 2017 7:34 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12241824)
You won't get much on Subi or Mt Lawley (I presume you meant Mt Lawley) for 500k. Leederville is supposed to be goid calue or look further out for good deals.

Yes, I prefer Leederville to Subiaco too - a very overrated place IMO

the troubadour May 1st 2017 9:38 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
Subi is very over rated. Actually been in decline for sometime. Being a Leederville resident, probably biased, but few other places in the metro area would interest me.
I still find house prices too expensive though. No hurry wait a time property is going nowhere but down.
Rents are in decline. The OP should seek out a good deal. Some decent property on the market at the moment. Renters have the upper hand.

Bloodyseppo May 1st 2017 9:38 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by lisaW1610 (Post 12241530)
My husband and I are looking into making the move from Scotland Uk to Perth Au. We have 2 children, 7 and 4, and expecting number 3.

My husband works as an Estimating engineer and has experience in rail, electric, renewable energy and oil and gas. We were told there is a growing need for applicants in this sector in Perth??
We are looking for advice on suburbs that are reasonably close to the city that have good schools and are family orientated, we would be renting at first and think we could afford about 700 per week. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

For $700/week you should be able to find a nice place in many suburbs with good schools near(ish) to the city.

For very good to excellent public schools - south of the river I would be looking at places like South Perth, Victoria Park, Como, Rossmoyne, Applecross, Attadale, Bicton. North of the river, any suburbs in the Shenton College catchment area, Mt Lawley, Highgate, most of the western suburbs.

Don't know about demand for your professions at this time though.

northernbird May 2nd 2017 2:47 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
I would not be considering a move to Perth in your position right now.

sign May 2nd 2017 10:14 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 12243309)
I would not be considering a move to Perth in your position right now.

Can I ask why. I was looking at Perth maybe for a year. My companion is a nurse. Are things quite bad.

carcajou May 2nd 2017 10:34 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
They are - even nurses not immune - they are no longer anywhere near in demand as they once were.

carcajou May 2nd 2017 10:35 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
Look, it's not impossible, but I would not move without doing a recce first specifically to scout out your job prospects.

teza May 2nd 2017 10:46 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
WA has the highest unemployment in the country at the moment and when you live in a country where jobs comes based on not what you know, but who you know, it might be hard. I know dozens of tradies with 10-20 yrs local experience working at anything they can get, may it be cleaning, checkout chicks to fully without no work in foreseeable future. Mining downturn brought all those locally qualified back from the north, and also the state is pretty much broke. So not trying to put a downer on your plans but that's your competition for jobs.

Amazulu May 2nd 2017 11:17 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by teza (Post 12243490)
when you live in a country where jobs comes based on not what you know, but who you know, it might be hard.

That happens in every country - certainly in the UK at least. I've had it work for and against me - in Australia and the UK

Amazulu May 2nd 2017 11:22 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by sign (Post 12243462)
Can I ask why. I was looking at Perth maybe for a year. My companion is a nurse. Are things quite bad.

I agree with Northernbird - not the time to be moving to WA. The economy is improving - new mining projects starting this year for instance - but it will be a while before this translates to increasing employment - and there are plenty of locals to fill theses jobs without the need for migrants

Nursing also affected - plenty of nurses out if work. The state government is grappling with a large deficit and is restructuring which will lead to job losses. This is a good thing for the state in the long run but not good for the individuals affected

spouse of scouse May 3rd 2017 12:32 am

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12243525)
I agree with Northernbird - not the time to be moving to WA. The economy is improving - new mining projects starting this year for instance - but it will be a while before this translates to increasing employment - and there are plenty of locals to fill theses jobs without the need for migrants

Nursing also affected - plenty of nurses out if work. The state government is grappling with a large deficit and is restructuring which will lead to job losses. This is a good thing for the state in the long run but not good for the individuals affected

I'm sad to hear that things aren't too good there. I know that house prices in Perth had taken a tumble at the time I left (18 months ago). Fingers crossed that the improvement you've mentioned keeps up.

Beoz May 3rd 2017 10:36 am

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12243583)
I'm sad to hear that things aren't too good there. I know that house prices in Perth had taken a tumble at the time I left (18 months ago). Fingers crossed that the improvement you've mentioned keeps up.

A correction :)

spouse of scouse May 3rd 2017 11:38 am

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12244058)
A correction :)

From my perspective, it was only a tumble rather that a tumble, because a nice young Chinese couple loved the house and paid over the odds :lol:

Amazulu May 3rd 2017 1:34 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by spouse of scouse (Post 12243583)
I'm sad to hear that things aren't too good there. I know that house prices in Perth had taken a tumble at the time I left (18 months ago). Fingers crossed that the improvement you've mentioned keeps up.

I don't really comment on house prices as opinions are like assholes etc - and nearly all commentary on the subject is just that - opinions. I guess prices are down but not by much if you look at the long-term. Prices around here are stable and properties are selling. That's going to be my only input into the subject

Reality is that although the economy is struggling somewhat, things aren't that bad (my opinion only - I'm not going to debate it). There is still tons of construction going on and much more planned. My wife recently started a well-paying full-time job. The shopping centre carparks are full and people are still spending money. You can often struggle to get a table at a decent restaurant and go to the cinema and you queue your ass off. You need to remember that Perth is the wealthiest city in the Southern Hemisphere and that average full-time salaries are 2nd only to Canberra - with a COL that is only marginally higher (and falling) than East Coast cities. There is a lot of money in this city and some of it is being utilised to keep people going. We live in a city that is at the mercy of economic cycles - and we are coming out of a trough in one of those cycles. It is what it is

xizzles May 3rd 2017 8:57 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
When there are people (or idiots) like me thinking of buying into the market in Perth, I reckon Amazulu can't be too wide off the mark there...

Beoz May 3rd 2017 9:03 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12244367)
When there are people (or idiots) like me thinking of buying into the market in Perth, I reckon Amazulu can't be too wide off the mark there...

You think natural resources has future then?

xizzles May 3rd 2017 9:23 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12244371)
You think natural resources has future then?

Well, I think it will never be without a future - how's that for a qualified answer. Its importance may have been overshadowed/overtaken by what technology can compensate at the moment, and shale gas/oil is an example, but when the reality of contaminated water tables and deformed babies and cancer rates in children climb because of the run-offs and the pollution hit home, don't be surprised to see "peak oil" and "peak oil prices" back in the lexicon of the traders. Just don't say you didn't read it here first.

Having said that, I'm not buying into Perth because of what the future promises. I'm thinking of buying into Perth for a viable punt at a visa run. It's a back up plan of a back up plan (the business in Sydney is my first back up), should the venture goes pear shaped. I'm doing everything possible I can to ensure that Australia is given as little excuse as possible to kick a 50-odd-year old fogey off its shores when the time for the RRV is due. Well, everything possible short of flipping keeping to the 2 years residency requirement which simply isn't viable at the moment.

Beoz May 3rd 2017 9:46 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12244386)
Well, I think it will never be without a future - how's that for a qualified answer. Its importance may have been overshadowed/overtaken by what technology can compensate at the moment, and shale gas/oil is an example, but when the reality of contaminated water tables and deformed babies and cancer rates in children climb because of the run-offs and the pollution hit home, don't be surprised to see "peak oil" and "peak oil prices" back in the lexicon of the traders. Just don't say you didn't read it here first.

Having said that, I'm not buying into Perth because of what the future promises. I'm thinking of buying into Perth for a viable punt at a visa run. It's a back up plan of a back up plan (the business in Sydney is my first back up), should the venture goes pear shaped. I'm doing everything possible I can to ensure that Australia is given as little excuse as possible to kick a 50-odd-year old fogey off its shores when the time for the RRV is due. Well, everything possible short of flipping keeping to the 2 years residency requirement which simply isn't viable at the moment.

All sounds fair to me. The contaminated land business is booming. I do wonder though, if the contaminated land lessons have been learned and the next gen of petrol stations, land fill, and run off sources will have been controlled and have the tech to sort it out.

That said, the detection and clean up methods will be equal to the task and that business will continue to boom.

Invest in that one :)

spouse of scouse May 3rd 2017 10:05 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12244142)
I don't really comment on house prices as opinions are like assholes etc - and nearly all commentary on the subject is just that - opinions. I guess prices are down but not by much if you look at the long-term. Prices around here are stable and properties are selling. That's going to be my only input into the subject

Reality is that although the economy is struggling somewhat, things aren't that bad (my opinion only - I'm not going to debate it). There is still tons of construction going on and much more planned. My wife recently started a well-paying full-time job. The shopping centre carparks are full and people are still spending money. You can often struggle to get a table at a decent restaurant and go to the cinema and you queue your ass off. You need to remember that Perth is the wealthiest city in the Southern Hemisphere and that average full-time salaries are 2nd only to Canberra - with a COL that is only marginally higher (and falling) than East Coast cities. There is a lot of money in this city and some of it is being utilised to keep people going. We live in a city that is at the mercy of economic cycles - and we are coming out of a trough in one of those cycles. It is what it is

Ta for your perspective Zulu.

moneypenny20 May 3rd 2017 10:12 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12243523)
That happens in every country - certainly in the UK at least. I've had it work for and against me - in Australia and the UK

Yeah I don't get the 'this is how it is in Aus' routine. It's normal practice everywhere. Maybe if you live somewhere long enough you're not aware you're getting a job based on who you know because you know so many people? No idea. :shrugs:

Amazulu May 3rd 2017 10:27 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12244371)
You think natural resources has future then?

:confused:

Why wouldn't they?

moneypenny20 May 3rd 2017 10:35 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 
Please don't make me split a thread. It's tiresome.

Amazulu May 3rd 2017 10:37 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12244432)
Yeah I don't get the 'this is how it is in Aus' routine. It's normal practice everywhere. Maybe if you live somewhere long enough you're not aware you're getting a job based on who you know because you know so many people? No idea. :shrugs:

And like I said, it works both ways - I've got jobs (including my current one) because of people I know

In the past when I've been responsible for hiring, I've given priority to people that I know - I knew what I was getting

Beoz May 3rd 2017 10:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12244444)
:confused:

Why wouldn't they?

Just asking. Some may believe they don't.

Amazulu May 3rd 2017 10:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 12244460)
Just asking. Some may believe they don't.

They would be wrong - but if they're right, Australia has no meaningful economic future and our living standards - East and West Coast - will plummet

The super-cycle is still in play

xizzles May 3rd 2017 10:53 pm

Re: Making the Move to Perth AU..
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12244455)
Please don't make me split a thread. It's tiresome.

Sorry moneypenny20 ... it's just the nature of boys and their banter. We do go on sometimes ... unfortunately, at a tangent most of the time! :rofl:

moneypenny20 May 3rd 2017 11:15 pm

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Originally Posted by xizzles (Post 12244465)
Sorry moneypenny20 ... it's just the nature of boys and their banter. We do go on sometimes ... unfortunately, at a tangent most of the time! :rofl:

I know ;) and I'm not concerned with the 'banter', there's just no need for it to repeatedly kick off in many of the threads that don't call for it. Splitting threads is fine when it works but at the moment it's a pain in the arse to do.

Anyway back on topic so the OP doesn't disappear...... does your move have to be to Perth and WA? Is there a reason that the other States/Territories aren't on your radar?

Beoz May 3rd 2017 11:19 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 12244485)
I know ;) and I'm not concerned with the 'banter', there's just no need for it to repeatedly kick off in many of the threads that don't call for it. Splitting threads is fine when it works but at the moment it's a pain in the arse to do.

Anyway back on topic so the OP doesn't disappear...... does your move have to be to Perth and WA? Is there a reason that the other States/Territories aren't on your radar?

The 3 of us generally don't kick off with each other. You should have nothing to worry about on a bit of resources and contaminated land chit chat.

Beoz May 3rd 2017 11:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 12244463)
They would be wrong - but if they're right, Australia has no meaningful economic future and our living standards - East and West Coast - will plummet

The super-cycle is still in play

Yep. I can see it coming back at some point. The appetite is too great. The next big thing will happen.

A couple of my old mining related clients have called up recently. Haven't heard boo from a couple of years so I have thrown it all into east coast infrastructure. They tell me there is a slight bit of movement.


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