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Originally posted by jayr
Pagey, I guess someone should now tell you that what you know as thongs and what Australians know as thongs are quite different. It is quite normal for men to wear black rubber thongs on the beach, around the city, in shops and even at work in some informal workplaces.
Pagey, I guess someone should now tell you that what you know as thongs and what Australians know as thongs are quite different. It is quite normal for men to wear black rubber thongs on the beach, around the city, in shops and even at work in some informal workplaces.
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Now that should really give pagey a great mental image
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Ive heard that black rubber thongs pull the hairs![EEK!](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif)
Now that should really give pagey a great mental image
Ive heard that black rubber thongs pull the hairs
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Now that should really give pagey a great mental image
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Getting hot sand chafing in them on the beach can be quite painful too...
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Originally posted by chippy
Do we British integrate into Aus society (when in Rome etc.), or are we all a bunch of little Englanders ? Do we have a choice?
Just wondered what the general consensus was.
Do we British integrate into Aus society (when in Rome etc.), or are we all a bunch of little Englanders ? Do we have a choice?
Just wondered what the general consensus was.
Coming back to the start of this thread I do believe the when in Rome tact is the right one to follow.
Why do so many brits want to go to OZ in the first place ?
I suggest the majority are like me and fed up with how UK Ltd is developing into a who's who of tribal segmentation.
It is not a case of mix up the best of all worlds enriching society but more a strong entrenchment tendancy. Won't be too long before the UK gets subdivided into miniscule ethic regions.
Stick em all in the same pot is the way it should be.
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Originally posted by Bix
Coming back to the start of this thread I do believe the when in Rome tact is the right one to follow.
Why do so many brits want to go to OZ in the first place ?
I suggest the majority are like me and fed up with how UK Ltd is developing into a who's who of tribal segmentation.
It is not a case of mix up the best of all worlds enriching society but more a strong entrenchment tendancy. Won't be too long before the UK gets subdivided into miniscule ethic regions.
Stick em all in the same pot is the way it should be.
Coming back to the start of this thread I do believe the when in Rome tact is the right one to follow.
Why do so many brits want to go to OZ in the first place ?
I suggest the majority are like me and fed up with how UK Ltd is developing into a who's who of tribal segmentation.
It is not a case of mix up the best of all worlds enriching society but more a strong entrenchment tendancy. Won't be too long before the UK gets subdivided into miniscule ethic regions.
Stick em all in the same pot is the way it should be.
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OK back to the serious stuff..
I always find it intriguing that high on the list of why people want to leave the UK is something to do with the country going downhill and invariably that this has something to do with immigration (illegal or otherwise). They then choose to migrate to a country which has been built on its immigrant population and, of course, become an immigrant themselves. Perhaps they expect to find a 'better class' of immigrant here or perhaps they believe that Australia remains in some kind of 1950's Commonwealth timewarp
I always find it intriguing that high on the list of why people want to leave the UK is something to do with the country going downhill and invariably that this has something to do with immigration (illegal or otherwise). They then choose to migrate to a country which has been built on its immigrant population and, of course, become an immigrant themselves. Perhaps they expect to find a 'better class' of immigrant here or perhaps they believe that Australia remains in some kind of 1950's Commonwealth timewarp
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This thread has made me sit back and think. I've just realised, that in the 18 months that I've been here, the only contact I've had with UK folk is through this forum, or emailing mates and family back in the UK.
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
) if they don't like it the way it is here, (or anywhere else) then they can bugger off back where they came from!!
I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
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I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
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Originally posted by downunderpom
This thread has made me sit back and think. I've just realised, that in the 18 months that I've been here, the only contact I've had with UK folk is through this forum, or emailing mates and family back in the UK.
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
) if they don't like it the way it is here, (or anywhere else) then they can bugger off back where they came from!!
I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
This thread has made me sit back and think. I've just realised, that in the 18 months that I've been here, the only contact I've had with UK folk is through this forum, or emailing mates and family back in the UK.
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
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I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
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Australia is richer for taking elements of all the immigrant's cultures. Eid, Chinese New year and Greek Xmasses mean people bring in their foods to work and we all learn a bit more about the rest of Australian society. Half this country is of post war immigrant stock.
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Originally posted by Megalania
Stuff the so called "multi-cultural society", lets have a Cosmopolitan one.
Stuff the so called "multi-cultural society", lets have a Cosmopolitan one.
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Originally posted by OzTennis
Frankly I would call the person who gets off the plane and is straight into a clone of an Aussie image a phoney (be it shorts, singlet, she'll be right, beer swilling or whatever people think it means).
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Frankly I would call the person who gets off the plane and is straight into a clone of an Aussie image a phoney (be it shorts, singlet, she'll be right, beer swilling or whatever people think it means).
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mate. Does that include me? I was in to all that cos it is
a) practical to own a 4x4 dual cab FOR ME. won't explain why. To do with job opportunities, business, advertising options, keeping my options open.
b) thongs are better for my hot feet
c) I like aussie beer
d) I like showing off my muscles hence the singlet (joke)
I think you do what you do. If I am a aussie stereotype then I was always - hence why I always felt strange in the UK when I was there in 2003. eg I love Rugby League and don't care for soccer. Australia was made for me. Still will be born a pom though.
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Originally posted by bondipom
What special rights are you talking about DUP?
Australia is richer for taking elements of all the immigrant's cultures. Eid, Chinese New year and Greek Xmasses mean people bring in their foods to work and we all learn a bit more about the rest of Australian society. Half this country is of post war immigrant stock.
What special rights are you talking about DUP?
Australia is richer for taking elements of all the immigrant's cultures. Eid, Chinese New year and Greek Xmasses mean people bring in their foods to work and we all learn a bit more about the rest of Australian society. Half this country is of post war immigrant stock.
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Maybe I didn't make my point clear....
I object to people who come to a new country, be it the UK, or Australia, or the States, or Canada, and decide that the people who already live in that country should conform to the newcomers ideas of how to live. Some Arabs, as an example, insist that all women are treated in a certain way, they consider any 'western' female to be a slut, as she doesn't conform to their ideas of modesty. Others want certain types of food or goods available in the shops (not always a bad thing as I like diversity!
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I've lived in several countries, and visited somewhere in the region of 70. With a lot of people, 'When in Rome' only seems to apply to their countries. Example - in Saudi Arabia western women who go out in public showing their shoulders or legs are liable to be stoned. While I don't expect the moslem women to start dressing like the western women, I think that they (and even more so, their menfolk) should realise that just because the new country they're living in is different, doesn't mean that it's 'bad'. If they don't like what they see, and consider their countries / culture so much better, then why did they leave? Why do so many refuse to learn to speak English? My neighbour downstairs at my last place has been living in Oz for over 30 years, has grown up, 'Ozzified' sons, but can only say 'Hello. Good?' in English.
Tirade over!
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Originally posted by bondipom
I was wondering if that was going to link to the woman's magasine.
I was wondering if that was going to link to the woman's magasine.
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I was wondering if there were any groups getting special rights in Australia?
Is does appear that certain groups bend the ears of immigration ministers no matter the party in power. The level of ear bending seems to be proportion to the donations to the relevant political party.
Is does appear that certain groups bend the ears of immigration ministers no matter the party in power. The level of ear bending seems to be proportion to the donations to the relevant political party.
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Originally posted by downunderpom
This thread has made me sit back and think. I've just realised, that in the 18 months that I've been here, the only contact I've had with UK folk is through this forum, or emailing mates and family back in the UK.
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
) if they don't like it the way it is here, (or anywhere else) then they can bugger off back where they came from!!
I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
This thread has made me sit back and think. I've just realised, that in the 18 months that I've been here, the only contact I've had with UK folk is through this forum, or emailing mates and family back in the UK.
But then to me it's normal, here. I was brought up out here and coming back was 'coming home'.
As far as integration is concerned, to each his own, IMO. I don't have a problem with 'communities', of whatever nationality / ethnic persuasion.
What gets right up my nose, however, is ethnic groups (of whatever nationality / religious persuasion) which don't only refuse to integrate into the country they've moved to (to get a 'better life'), but actively and aggressively expect the occupants of the country they've just moved to to give them extra privileges, and adopt the newcomers way of life! If their way of life and methods of living their lives are so bloody wonderful, why did they bother leaving their homeland in the first place? So, to take it one step further (and conclude my rant
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I'm here, and I'm staying. I may have been born in the UK, but a cat born in a chipshop isn't a chip. I'm an Aussie. Roll on Citizenship!
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Originally posted by Karen Thompson
If you want my reason for leaving good old blighty then you have just explained 50% it in one!!!!
If you want my reason for leaving good old blighty then you have just explained 50% it in one!!!!
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And shouldn't you be in bed, asleep?
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