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moneypenny20 Feb 20th 2010 3:14 pm

Learning to drive QLD
 
A quick query as I've gone through the website and read and reread the books and can't find the answer.

If a 16/17 year old is learning to drive, in order to get a Manual licence, they have to do 100 hours split into 90 for daytime and 10 for nighttime driving. However, does all that driving have to be done in a Manual car or can some of it be done in an Automatic?

Reason I ask is that although the daughter has her own Manual car, sometimes it would easier if she could drive my Automatic but that's not worth it at the moment if it doesn't count towards the hours. Friends of hers are doing most of their in Automatic cars but reckon they're going for a Manual licence.

Common sense tells me that if she's driving an Automatic, she's not getting Manual experience so it shouldn't count but common sense isn't huge in Queensland Transport ;)

Confused much.

Bonnie65 Feb 20th 2010 3:53 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8361613)
A quick query as I've gone through the website and read and reread the books and can't find the answer.

If a 16/17 year old is learning to drive, in order to get a Manual licence, they have to do 100 hours split into 90 for daytime and 10 for nighttime driving. However, does all that driving have to be done in a Manual car or can some of it be done in an Automatic?

Reason I ask is that although the daughter has her own Manual car, sometimes it would easier if she could drive my Automatic but that's not worth it at the moment if it doesn't count towards the hours. Friends of hers are doing most of their in Automatic cars but reckon they're going for a Manual licence.

Common sense tells me that if she's driving an Automatic, she's not getting Manual experience so it shouldn't count but common sense isn't huge in Queensland Transport ;)

Confused much.

Hi moneypenny

My hubby works as a customer service officer for QT and he says that, as far as he is aware, it doesn't matter whether the hours are done in a manual or automatic - so long as she can pass her test in a manual.

I agree with you - seems completely bonkers:confused:

He's in work tomorrow so will check it out for definite for you (if he remembers!)

moneypenny20 Feb 20th 2010 3:57 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by Bonnie65 (Post 8361657)
Hi moneypenny

My hubby works as a customer service officer for QT and he says that, as far as he is aware, it doesn't matter whether the hours are done in a manual or automatic - so long as she can pass her test in a manual.

I agree with you - seems completely bonkers:confused:

He's in work tomorrow so will check it out for definite for you (if he remembers!)

That would be great if he remembers but I understand he's a guy ;):lol: I guess they assume that if they haven't done enough in a Manual then they will fail the test but it seems bloody silly to me.

ABCDiamond Feb 20th 2010 4:01 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 
My wife has a driving licence for a manual, but she has NEVER driven one, not ever !

moneypenny20 Feb 20th 2010 4:06 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8361665)
My wife has a driving licence for a manual, but she has NEVER driven one, not ever !

How did she get that then?

ABCDiamond Feb 20th 2010 4:16 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8361672)
How did she get that then?

I am wondering that aswell.....

She took her test in NSW, in an auto. I assume the NSW licence was restricted, but don't have it now so can't check.

She swapped it to a UK one, when we moved back, and then swapped back again on our return to Australia. It must have been that. Unless the change from a NSW licence to a QLD one, a year or so later, wasn't done correctly.

I have her old UK licence somewhere, I shall try to find it and see if that had an auto restriction on it.

moneypenny20 Feb 20th 2010 4:21 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8361689)
I am wondering that aswell.....

She took her test in NSW, in an auto. I assume the NSW licence was restricted, but don't have it now so can't check.

She swapped it to a UK one, when we moved back, and then swapped back again on our return to Australia. It must have been that. Unless the change from a NSW licence to a QLD one, a year or so later, wasn't done correctly.

I have her old UK licence somewhere, I shall try to find it and see if that had an auto restriction on it.

Someone cocked up.:D

The Bloke Feb 20th 2010 11:19 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by Bonnie65 (Post 8361657)
Hi moneypenny

My hubby works as a customer service officer for QT and he says that, as far as he is aware, it doesn't matter whether the hours are done in a manual or automatic - so long as she can pass her test in a manual.

I agree with you - seems completely bonkers:confused:

He's in work tomorrow so will check it out for definite for you (if he remembers!)

Unless they have drastically changed it over the years, if you did the test in an automatic, you licence was endorsed to drive "automatic only". If you get a licence for a manual, you can drive either manual or auto.
I cheated, did the test in both auto and manual cars......, but then again, I didn't have to go through all the BS that now has to be done.

JackTheLad Feb 20th 2010 11:29 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 8362281)
I cheated, did the test in both auto and manual cars......


What's the point of that? If you pass your manual driving exam, surely you're qualified to drive an automatic?:confused:

JTL

The Bloke Feb 20th 2010 11:35 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by JackTheLad (Post 8362298)
What's the point of that? If you pass your manual driving exam, surely you're qualified to drive an automatic?:confused:

JTL

Errr, back then we only had an auto, no manual to learn in (had to borrow from one of the local coppers to do the test), and none of the BS that they have to do now-testing done by the local cops, 100 hours in a liar book.....
When they went to QT testers, it was guaranteed that if you were male, it took at least 2 to 3 goes to pass (female, especially good looking ones, passed 1st time).

moneypenny20 Feb 20th 2010 11:48 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 8362281)
Unless they have drastically changed it over the years, if you did the test in an automatic, you licence was endorsed to drive "automatic only". If you get a licence for a manual, you can drive either manual or auto.
I cheated, did the test in both auto and manual cars......, but then again, I didn't have to go through all the BS that now has to be done.

I just think if you're going for a Manual licence, ALL your hours should be done in a Manual car. However now I know it doesn't matter, my daughter will be doing more hours in my Automatic as it's more comfortable than her Barina. :lol: The more experience she gets in various styles of car the better but I still think the vast majority should be in the Manual whereas some of her friends are using Automatics for most of the hours and then wondering why they fail the Manual test and then go for the Automatic one and pass. What's the point? We want her to be able to drive any car without a problem, are we odd or unusual? :confused:

Alfresco Feb 21st 2010 4:53 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8362326)
I just think if you're going for a Manual licence, ALL your hours should be done in a Manual car. However now I know it doesn't matter, my daughter will be doing more hours in my Automatic as it's more comfortable than her Barina. :lol: The more experience she gets in various styles of car the better but I still think the vast majority should be in the Manual whereas some of her friends are using Automatics for most of the hours and then wondering why they fail the Manual test and then go for the Automatic one and pass. What's the point? We want her to be able to drive any car without a problem, are we odd or unusual? :confused:


I think there's more to it than just what type of car it is. It's the ability to drive safely etc... which is far more important. Once someone has the hang of both manual and auto, then it's just road sense experience that counts.

Dreamy Feb 21st 2010 7:03 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8362326)
I just think if you're going for a Manual licence, ALL your hours should be done in a Manual car. However now I know it doesn't matter, my daughter will be doing more hours in my Automatic as it's more comfortable than her Barina. :lol: The more experience she gets in various styles of car the better but I still think the vast majority should be in the Manual whereas some of her friends are using Automatics for most of the hours and then wondering why they fail the Manual test and then go for the Automatic one and pass. What's the point? We want her to be able to drive any car without a problem, are we odd or unusual? :confused:

When I was learning to drive in the UK my parents had an automatic, so they fronted up for driving lessons for me in a manual. Apart from the driving lessons all my car driving experience was in an automatic - car driving is car driving when it comes to gaining road sense, so long as you get enough manual car experience so you are aware of the role that changing gear has to the car's performance etc.

Obviously that doesn't help you for your Qld question and the 100 hours :) Is she having professional driving lessons too? The kids had informed me that professional driving lessons count for more hours - can't remember if its 1 hour of driving lesson = 2 hours in the log book or if its some other ratio, but you can only count so many of them.. again, this may be a complete lie, I've managed to stall the boys learning to drive at all so I didn't investigate it fully.

moneypenny20 Feb 21st 2010 8:47 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 8363029)
When I was learning to drive in the UK my parents had an automatic, so they fronted up for driving lessons for me in a manual. Apart from the driving lessons all my car driving experience was in an automatic - car driving is car driving when it comes to gaining road sense, so long as you get enough manual car experience so you are aware of the role that changing gear has to the car's performance etc.

Obviously that doesn't help you for your Qld question and the 100 hours :) Is she having professional driving lessons too? The kids had informed me that professional driving lessons count for more hours - can't remember if its 1 hour of driving lesson = 2 hours in the log book or if its some other ratio, but you can only count so many of them.. again, this may be a complete lie, I've managed to stall the boys learning to drive at all so I didn't investigate it fully.

It's 1:3 and yes, you can only count about 10 professional lessons as triple hours. The only reason I'm checking now, she's already done 40 odd but had to take five months out for medical reasons and she's obviously eager to do the rest as quickly as she can fit in.

Thanks all for the help.

ABCDiamond Feb 21st 2010 10:27 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8362326)
Iare we odd or unusual? :confused:

There is a third option....... "sensible" :D

PaulandNic Feb 21st 2010 2:30 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8361665)
My wife has a driving licence for a manual, but she has NEVER driven one, not ever !


Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8361672)
How did she get that then?

Nic has too! When we went to Queensland Transport to apply for a QLD one they've given her a full open licence. She only passed her test in Auto in the UK but here she could legally drive a manual. I say legally as in the real world it'd be a diff case ... :D

ABCDiamond Feb 21st 2010 4:06 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by PaulandNic (Post 8363851)
Nic has too! When we went to Queensland Transport to apply for a QLD one they've given her a full open licence. She only passed her test in Auto in the UK but here she could legally drive a manual. I say legally as in the real world it'd be a diff case ... :D

Visions of crunching gear boxes !! :eek:

She can't even use my tiptronic gearbox in manual mode, and there is NO clutch.

DeadVim Feb 21st 2010 4:10 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 
QLD has a driving test? :blink: :eek:

ABCDiamond Feb 21st 2010 4:16 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 8363972)
QLD has a driving test? :blink: :eek:

They even need to show L plates and P plates now.. don't times change.... :lol:

PaulandNic Feb 21st 2010 4:32 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 8363963)
Visions of crunching gear boxes !! :eek:

For sure! ... :D

PaulandNic Feb 21st 2010 4:32 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 8363972)
QLD has a driving test? :blink: :eek:

It's all true!

Alfresco Feb 22nd 2010 9:39 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 
How much does the 'Test' itself cost?

The Bloke Feb 22nd 2010 9:59 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 8363972)
QLD has a driving test? :blink: :eek:

If you can weave in and out of traffic without hitting anyone, you pass.......:D

The Bloke Feb 22nd 2010 10:01 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8367273)
How much does the 'Test' itself cost?

I don't know about the test, but it cost one guy at work between $4500 and $5000 ($50 per hour with an instructor).:eek:

Bonnie65 Feb 22nd 2010 10:06 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8361661)
That would be great if he remembers but I understand he's a guy ;):lol: I guess they assume that if they haven't done enough in a Manual then they will fail the test but it seems bloody silly to me.

Hubby remembered to check this at work today :eek:
Yes you can do your hours in an automatic - I suppose they figure that, if you take your test in a manual, having done all your driving in an auto, then you'll fail!

moneypenny20 Feb 22nd 2010 11:09 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 
Thanks for that. She had a professional lesson the other day and the instructor said she was up to speed on everything so that's cool. Let her drive my car this morning and we both hated it :lol: I was worried about my baby (car) and she hated driving it because of it's size compared to hers so it's Manual all the way for her. :D

Alfresco Feb 22nd 2010 11:39 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 8367318)
I don't know about the test, but it cost one guy at work between $4500 and $5000 ($50 per hour with an instructor).:eek:

:eek: That's a LOT of hours/lessons.

My son has just done his license here 25.5 hrs @£22 p/h + £75 for the test = £636 all told.

Cuppa10 Feb 22nd 2010 11:52 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 
The actual test is I think $43.50 or $46.50 or something around that amount.

I cant remember 100% though.

Not too expensive. You've got to get the licence afterwards, though if you pass. (Extra $$$ on top)

The lessons are what's going to kill your finances though. Personally I think 5 or so initial lessons, then driving with parents for a while then 5 or so final lessons would probably be the best bet.

DeadVim Feb 23rd 2010 8:16 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by The Bloke (Post 8367315)
If you can weave in and out of traffic without hitting anyone, you pass.......:D

Whilst holding a can of Bundy and Coke and not spilling it.

Bonus points for a "Justify Your Existence" sticker.

Extra bonus style points for being on a bike.

jad n rich Feb 23rd 2010 9:44 am

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8367481)
Thanks for that. She had a professional lesson the other day and the instructor said she was up to speed on everything so that's cool. Let her drive my car this morning and we both hated it :lol: I was worried about my baby (car) and she hated driving it because of it's size compared to hers so it's Manual all the way for her. :D


L has his first professional lesson next week, the older sturdy truck we had earmarked for him needed $4000 of work :( so we had to trade it in, hes now be driving a new mitsubishi triton dual cab, quick driving school course to polish up his skills.

Had to laugh when we picked it up we let him have a little drive from the school, hes already one of the first to get the L plates, you should have seen the ladies swoon at him :wub:in his big new pick up truck.

However he wont be getting much action in it :rofl: we have a rule they cant drive with mates in the car for 2 years after they get the P's.

moneypenny20 Feb 23rd 2010 12:27 pm

Re: Learning to drive QLD
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8369192)
L has his first professional lesson next week, the older sturdy truck we had earmarked for him needed $4000 of work :( so we had to trade it in, hes now be driving a new mitsubishi triton dual cab, quick driving school course to polish up his skills.

Had to laugh when we picked it up we let him have a little drive from the school, hes already one of the first to get the L plates, you should have seen the ladies swoon at him :wub:in his big new pick up truck.

However he wont be getting much action in it :rofl: we have a rule they cant drive with mates in the car for 2 years after they get the P's.

Good rule. A friend of first born's isn't taking anyone in her car unless they pay her. She drives to school everyday and gives her younger sister a lift - same school. She charges her as well :lol: Start as you mean to go on I say :D


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