Laugh or cry you wont see this in the UK.
#46
Originally posted by MrsDagboy
I am still trying to work out how asking someone from another country whether they may have eaten a particular thing for lunch in their own country could possibly be construed as racist &/or offensive?
I am still trying to work out how asking someone from another country whether they may have eaten a particular thing for lunch in their own country could possibly be construed as racist &/or offensive?
How many people do you know that haven't eaten a sandwich? The question was asked because she thought the lady would have just eaten rice or things that a 'poor' African may eat, she thought she was deprived. She didn't stop to think that this lady lives in a house and not a mud hut and eats as we eat!!
#47
Originally posted by MrsDagboy
I am still trying to work out how asking someone from another country whether they may have eaten a particular thing for lunch in their own country could possibly be construed as racist &/or offensive?
I am still trying to work out how asking someone from another country whether they may have eaten a particular thing for lunch in their own country could possibly be construed as racist &/or offensive?
I am pretty sure that when I had been here for 4 months and went to the Brisbane Show (Ekka) one of the chaps at work asked me if I had ever had a Dagwood Dog before. I took it as an interest in the culinary habits of a different country (and maybe a perverse pride in the whole concept of "a sausage in batter on a stick") rather than an offensive racial slur.
Cheers,
DagWood
#48
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Originally posted by janeyray
Maybe you're asking that because you to are an Aussie? lol
How many people do you know that haven't eaten a sandwich? The question was asked because she thought the lady would have just eaten rice or things that a 'poor' African may eat, she thought she was deprived. She didn't stop to think that this lady lives in a house and not a mud hut and eats as we eat!!
Maybe you're asking that because you to are an Aussie? lol
How many people do you know that haven't eaten a sandwich? The question was asked because she thought the lady would have just eaten rice or things that a 'poor' African may eat, she thought she was deprived. She didn't stop to think that this lady lives in a house and not a mud hut and eats as we eat!!
#49
Originally posted by nickyc
Never seen racism given as reasons for their leaving before.
Never seen racism given as reasons for their leaving before.
#50
Originally posted by Megalania
Maybe they are just plain old homesick.
Maybe instead of accepting that as an entirely satisfactory reason for going home, they need to blame someone, something, anything at all really, except their state of mind.
Maybe they are just plain old homesick.
Maybe instead of accepting that as an entirely satisfactory reason for going home, they need to blame someone, something, anything at all really, except their state of mind.
And homesickness is usually not describable.
But bad experiences will of course make it worse.
An incident like this of course, is not a reason to remigrate. But a combination of incidents/experiences(not finding work, not making friends, not having 'choice' in shops, missing family, more racism than you have experienced) is. It's all very personal, depends on where you come from, where you are now, luck, and lots of other factors!!
Mrs DB: yeah, that's what I sort of thought as well, see a few posts above.
Nickyc: Agreed
#51
Originally posted by DagBoy
one of the chaps at work asked me if I had ever had a Dagwood Dog before.
DagWood
one of the chaps at work asked me if I had ever had a Dagwood Dog before.
DagWood
Little bit different though to a salad sandwich don't you think?
Not many people have heard of a Dagboy Dog before, woops sorry, I mean Dagwood Dog !! lol I think everyone's heard of a sandwich?
#52
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Originally posted by janeyray
Maybe you're asking that because you to are an Aussie? lol
How many people do you know that haven't eaten a sandwich? The question was asked because she thought the lady would have just eaten rice or things that a 'poor' African may eat, she thought she was deprived. She didn't stop to think that this lady lives in a house and not a mud hut and eats as we eat!!
Maybe you're asking that because you to are an Aussie? lol
How many people do you know that haven't eaten a sandwich? The question was asked because she thought the lady would have just eaten rice or things that a 'poor' African may eat, she thought she was deprived. She didn't stop to think that this lady lives in a house and not a mud hut and eats as we eat!!
And once again you show your true colours with the comment about me being an aussie. You seem to think that the only racism that matters is the one towards people of different skin colours.
#53
Originally posted by janeyray
Little bit different though to a salad sandwich don't you think?
Not many people have heard of a Dagboy Dog before, woops sorry, I mean Dagwood Dog !! lol I think everyone's heard of a sandwich?
Little bit different though to a salad sandwich don't you think?
Not many people have heard of a Dagboy Dog before, woops sorry, I mean Dagwood Dog !! lol I think everyone's heard of a sandwich?
And the question was about BEFORE she came to Oz, right?
#54
Originally posted by MrsDagboy
And once again you show your true colours with the comment about me being an aussie.
And once again you show your true colours with the comment about me being an aussie.
I'am an Aussie to.
#55
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Originally posted by mcmercer
Is this because its acceptable here or because people arent exposed so much to other cultures/nationalities (except poms) as much??? (I know there are other cultures/nationalities here, I'm talking about mixing) I've no idea but was just expressing amazement today that I havnt seen a single non-white child at my daughters school which concerns me a bit, we're from Birmingham where there is a huge diversity of people and that is something I liked about the place.
No I'm not starting to moan already I promise, just intrigued
Is this because its acceptable here or because people arent exposed so much to other cultures/nationalities (except poms) as much??? (I know there are other cultures/nationalities here, I'm talking about mixing) I've no idea but was just expressing amazement today that I havnt seen a single non-white child at my daughters school which concerns me a bit, we're from Birmingham where there is a huge diversity of people and that is something I liked about the place.
No I'm not starting to moan already I promise, just intrigued
I'm still 10 miles away and.............. I'm trying really hard...........ahhhhh nope sorry apart from .............. maybe not
#56
look I'am not getting into tit for tat about a sandwich. You weren't there. The comment 'sounded' rasist (hard to put over on here) and I was embaressed to be in the company of the lady that said it.
To 'me' she might as well have asked if she used her fingers to eat or had she ever seen a knife and fork. I'am suprised she didn't ask if they used plates at home to put thier food on or ate of the floor. The comment was mean as that and you had to hear the way it was said to appreciate how rasisit it sounded. the end.
To 'me' she might as well have asked if she used her fingers to eat or had she ever seen a knife and fork. I'am suprised she didn't ask if they used plates at home to put thier food on or ate of the floor. The comment was mean as that and you had to hear the way it was said to appreciate how rasisit it sounded. the end.
#57
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Originally posted by MrsDagboy
Janey, there are plenty of countries in this world where the people would not normally have sandwiches for their lunch. Or are you the one whos too blind to see that not everyone in the world lives by the premise that anything "white" &/or british is the norm? Why do you think that everyone in the world would have eaten a sandwich?
And once again you show your true colours with the comment about me being an aussie. You seem to think that the only racism that matters is the one towards people of different skin colours.
Janey, there are plenty of countries in this world where the people would not normally have sandwiches for their lunch. Or are you the one whos too blind to see that not everyone in the world lives by the premise that anything "white" &/or british is the norm? Why do you think that everyone in the world would have eaten a sandwich?
And once again you show your true colours with the comment about me being an aussie. You seem to think that the only racism that matters is the one towards people of different skin colours.
#58
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Originally posted by janeyray
I'am an Aussie to.
I'am an Aussie to.
#59
Originally posted by janeyray
Little bit different though to a salad sandwich don't you think?
Not many people have heard of a Dagboy Dog before, woops sorry, I mean Dagwood Dog !! lol I think everyone's heard of a sandwich?
Little bit different though to a salad sandwich don't you think?
Not many people have heard of a Dagboy Dog before, woops sorry, I mean Dagwood Dog !! lol I think everyone's heard of a sandwich?
When you consider the shared history of UK and Aus and the continuing strong links, I still find some of the differences amazing. How much greater the differences must be for someone coming here from Kenya. To me, asking the lady if she has had sandwiches before struck me as a friendly enquiry, a way to find out more about her, an opening to a discussion about the differences and similarities between the countries. That is not racist.
Cheers,
DagBoy
#60
Originally posted by janeyray
Maybe thats because we have our eyes open and aren't living in a fantasy?
Are you still living the dream and only hearing what you want to hear?
Maybe thats because we have our eyes open and aren't living in a fantasy?
Are you still living the dream and only hearing what you want to hear?