last straw now im defo leaving UK
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last straw now im defo leaving UK
HI all, I am getting nearer our leaving date and getting all the normal voices in my head "is it the right thing to do" blah blah blah.
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by the Brady gang
HI all, I am getting nearer our leaving date and getting all the normal voices in my head "is it the right thing to do" blah blah blah.
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
God how awful for you, the trouble with this siutation is you're the one who starts to feel a pain - constant phone calls to the police and when something like this happens, they finally get their act together -when it's far too late. Thank god he's now away from you and your community, it's just terrible that such a young person hs died, someone who had his whole life to look forward to.
Hope you make the correct choice and that Australia can offer you more.
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
How sad . He's off the streets now, hopefully the law will keep him off and he wont be able to hurt anybody else.
My thoughts are with the young man who was killed and his family
Tracey
My thoughts are with the young man who was killed and his family
Tracey
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Nothing same sh** different
you know what I mean, I had this argument the other night with someone on here, I know that all places in the world have their problems but this just seems to be a haven for them. I have a druggy to contend with too, have done the community thing, police, told him myself, made lists, nothing happens.
Poor family who have just lost their son. Tragic
lace x
you know what I mean, I had this argument the other night with someone on here, I know that all places in the world have their problems but this just seems to be a haven for them. I have a druggy to contend with too, have done the community thing, police, told him myself, made lists, nothing happens.
Poor family who have just lost their son. Tragic
lace x
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Yes this is tragic but isnt this a world thing not just specific to the UK
Theres a 6 year old girl dead here, junkie parents, investigation now into why 20 complaints were registered and nobody did anything. Just one of many cases. Point is it happens here too, so where do you move to then??
You cant let it make you bitter or cloud your judgement that it wont happen elsewhere.
Theres a 6 year old girl dead here, junkie parents, investigation now into why 20 complaints were registered and nobody did anything. Just one of many cases. Point is it happens here too, so where do you move to then??
You cant let it make you bitter or cloud your judgement that it wont happen elsewhere.
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Wow - a really terrible story
Australia has more than its fair share of crime and problems though and people should not think its any different here. The crime rate is higher than the UK!
The drugs problems here are huge and also much worse than the UK!!
Fortunately none of this has touched us yet but the papers and news are full of horrid stories. No matter where you are in the world, its a sign of the modern times I'm afraid.
Australia has more than its fair share of crime and problems though and people should not think its any different here. The crime rate is higher than the UK!
The drugs problems here are huge and also much worse than the UK!!
Fortunately none of this has touched us yet but the papers and news are full of horrid stories. No matter where you are in the world, its a sign of the modern times I'm afraid.
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Sod it I am staying here, my sisters said it was miles better where they live. Maybe sometime a bit off on one in Redcliffe but deffo not as bad as it is here they say
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by the Brady gang
HI all, I am getting nearer our leaving date and getting all the normal voices in my head "is it the right thing to do" blah blah blah.
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
You will never get over it, but you have to stop beating yourself up.
You tried your best to warn people, its just a shame that somebodys life has been taken in order to get this scum off the street.
W e have a friend here who is a pliceman, and he was surprised at some of the stories i told him about my beloved town Morecambe. It happened all the time there. Anyway think of the future at least you are trying to do what is best for your family.
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by jad n rich
Yes this is tragic but isnt this a world thing not just specific to the UK
Theres a 6 year old girl dead here, junkie parents, investigation now into why 20 complaints were registered and nobody did anything. Just one of many cases. Point is it happens here too, so where do you move to then??
You cant let it make you bitter or cloud your judgement that it wont happen elsewhere.
Theres a 6 year old girl dead here, junkie parents, investigation now into why 20 complaints were registered and nobody did anything. Just one of many cases. Point is it happens here too, so where do you move to then??
You cant let it make you bitter or cloud your judgement that it wont happen elsewhere.
Police in Aus don't tend to worry about that sort of stuff either, but dare to drive 2km/h over the speed limit and they're sure to be on the case straight away!
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by the Brady gang
HI all, I am getting nearer our leaving date and getting all the normal voices in my head "is it the right thing to do" blah blah blah.
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of times I called the police on him, the times I spoke to the community officer. The letter of all incidents advising them he was getting worse and still they did nothing. They came to my door and said they couldnt do anything. Not once did they go to his door and every time we called 999 the police took hours to respond and in turn missed the incidents.
Oh I know OZ has its troubles but today has made me realise if I am to start my own family it certainly wont be in the fekin country.
Sorry for rant but I am so upset a young mans life has been taken and I tried warning them. What can you do....
I don't find this too hard to believe. I used to be a community police officer, and, apart from being probably the worst job i've ever had, it gave me a very good insight into the direction in which tthe UK will undoubtedly go.
The police here have quite simply had their hands tied by the Eurpoean convention on human rights, and are now so hogtied that its extremely difficult, if not almost impossible to do anything proactive in terms of community policing without breaching the convention. Most things that any normal person would consider to be logical and sensible are generally deemed to be breaches of the ECHR.
A good example is of using video evidence to capture youths disorderly conduct (drinking, abuse, vandalism, racing cars etc) in public places. Logical eh? Because it *MAY* capture an innocent person, or the film may sweep across somebodies window where the curtains are open, it makes it completely inadmissable as evidence.
Any reports from members of the public that don't amount to anything being found by the police can't be used either, which is probably what has happened in this case. So if I called the police 10 times to report the same person using drugs on my doorstep and the police only caught him at it once, guess what? The other 9 incident reports can't be used to build up a profile of his activities, incase I had called them in maliciously.
I understand that many years ago, the police were open to corruption etc, but now I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way, and they are powerless to do anything in many situations. Except of course traffic policing, which produces instant and very measurable results.
In the end I left because it felt as if I was just lying to the public about what we (the organisation) would do to help them with their problems etc etc, knowing full well that I would return to the station and just file it for no further action because there was very little we could actually do.
Not a job I would readily take up again.
S
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by NJJ
Police in Aus don't tend to worry about that sort of stuff either, but dare to drive 2km/h over the speed limit and they're sure to be on the case straight away!
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I don't find this too hard to believe. I used to be a community police officer, and, apart from being probably the worst job i've ever had, it gave me a very good insight into the direction in which tthe UK will undoubtedly go.
The police here have quite simply had their hands tied by the Eurpoean convention on human rights, and are now so hogtied that its extremely difficult, if not almost impossible to do anything proactive in terms of community policing without breaching the convention. Most things that any normal person would consider to be logical and sensible are generally deemed to be breaches of the ECHR.
A good example is of using video evidence to capture youths disorderly conduct (drinking, abuse, vandalism, racing cars etc) in public places. Logical eh? Because it *MAY* capture an innocent person, or the film may sweep across somebodies window where the curtains are open, it makes it completely inadmissable as evidence.
Any reports from members of the public that don't amount to anything being found by the police can't be used either, which is probably what has happened in this case. So if I called the police 10 times to report the same person using drugs on my doorstep and the police only caught him at it once, guess what? The other 9 incident reports can't be used to build up a profile of his activities, incase I had called them in maliciously.
I understand that many years ago, the police were open to corruption etc, but now I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way, and they are powerless to do anything in many situations. Except of course traffic policing, which produces instant and very measurable results.
In the end I left because it felt as if I was just lying to the public about what we (the organisation) would do to help them with their problems etc etc, knowing full well that I would return to the station and just file it for no further action because there was very little we could actually do.
Not a job I would readily take up again.
S
The police here have quite simply had their hands tied by the Eurpoean convention on human rights, and are now so hogtied that its extremely difficult, if not almost impossible to do anything proactive in terms of community policing without breaching the convention. Most things that any normal person would consider to be logical and sensible are generally deemed to be breaches of the ECHR.
A good example is of using video evidence to capture youths disorderly conduct (drinking, abuse, vandalism, racing cars etc) in public places. Logical eh? Because it *MAY* capture an innocent person, or the film may sweep across somebodies window where the curtains are open, it makes it completely inadmissable as evidence.
Any reports from members of the public that don't amount to anything being found by the police can't be used either, which is probably what has happened in this case. So if I called the police 10 times to report the same person using drugs on my doorstep and the police only caught him at it once, guess what? The other 9 incident reports can't be used to build up a profile of his activities, incase I had called them in maliciously.
I understand that many years ago, the police were open to corruption etc, but now I think the pendulum has swung too far the other way, and they are powerless to do anything in many situations. Except of course traffic policing, which produces instant and very measurable results.
In the end I left because it felt as if I was just lying to the public about what we (the organisation) would do to help them with their problems etc etc, knowing full well that I would return to the station and just file it for no further action because there was very little we could actually do.
Not a job I would readily take up again.
S
Interesting post, but very worrying and a bit sad. Explains why a complaint by me about being assualted in broad daylight came to nothing.
Suzyx
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by suzy
Interesting post, but very worrying and a bit sad. Explains why a complaint by me about being assualted in broad daylight came to nothing.
Suzyx
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Originally Posted by the Brady gang
Then today I was talking to friends about one of my neighbours who has been a nightmare for the last year, weve saw him batter his sister in the street, threaten his friend with a knife in the street, the violence has been getting worse and worse so I have reported him to the police on many many occasions giving them details in abundance. Anyway things quietened down in last week or so. Just found out why he has been charged with MURDER of a young 19 year old boy. I am absolutely gutted and furious. The amount of do....
But that type of thing would never happen here in Florida...
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Re: last straw now im defo leaving UK
Sorry you've had such a horrible time. Hope life in Aus makes up for all the misery.
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