Steve & Family

Hi,

As some of you know we are in our early stages of migrating and I would like to change my job direction from being a boring IT specialist to something a bit more ?????

When reading the many threads on this site its looks like the building trade is flourishing - I have a little way to go before getting my visa so I'm thinking it might me a good idea to do a crash course in some trade - we have courses in the UK, where apparently you can become a plumber in 6 weeks! – Is this really possibly? – Is it worth it? – Will I really be any good at the end of it? (I have to do some more research) - I know at much experience in life is useful...but…..

I will consider my hand at anything but I don’t REALLY know whats available in Perth – I’ve even thought about doing a boat handling course, then thought its probably cheaper to do once I’m over there.

Financially I shouldn’t be in too bad a situation, should be able to buy a nice house outright, able to live for a few months without any income but I would like to get some idea on what I should expect I shall be doing eventually.

This is just some of the avenues I'm looking at - any other advice on job direction, opportunities, offer of employment greatly received.

Thankyou

Steve (Age 32)
Wife & 2 lovely daughters

Grub

Hi there

All i know is my husband is a carpneter and there is apparently a shotage of skilled trades people out in Oz generally. Even though i have degree etc it is his job that we have gone through not mine. The good thing in Oz is that tradespeople have unions (which they dont have here) so the money and conditions are better thsn in UK. Maybe you could do a course here but might be better to wait and see what jobs are available in Perth in IT, and then consider a career change once you are settled.

Hope that's of some help.

Nicky

pommie bastard

Midland brick in Perth do a brickies course takes 3 months , here they will not give you a ticket for skilled trade unless you have apprentership papers. Unions only control wages in building trade for unskilled mainly because the bikies(Hells Angels) run them , the skilled work self employed or contract.
The building tradesmen here do very well , your game IT has too many chasing too few jobs but thats not saying you may get a good employment .Dont come here thinking work is same as UK a lot of employers here are in the dark ages and take the attitude if you dont bow down and know your place the next boat load of mugs are coming next week.

Grub

Dear Steve

Just a quick word of warning- there are a number of people on this site who delight in spreading bad feelings abuot Asutralia. Please ignore them. Australia is a wnderful place with much to offer. You will find that out for yourself i am sure.

Kind regards & good luck

Nicky

Kennyboy

Hi Steve, I'm in the early stages as you are but I'm sorry to hear that you want to
retrain as a plumber ( possibly!!) . I'm a chippy who has 20 years exp. and I'mstill
learning. I work regularly with my best mate ( a plumber
! ) and he had to take a 5 year apprenticeship.
Your question sums up why I'm going, it seems to me that in the UK a man can lose his
job , go down to B&Q and buy some really bad tools and call himself a chippy!! ( I'm
on a roll now, getting really steamed up!!!) The problem is with the customers who
watch programs on TV and think we're all put to rip off all and sundrie. I've been
self employed for around 10 years and have never had a day without work! All work
comes from referals. Don't be fooled into thinking you can retrain so easily, My mate
earns good money putting right other peoples ( note I don't say plumbers ) attempts
at his trade.

It's not as easy as the tv programs try to make it look.

I'm typing this with a grin on my face so don't be insulted!!

Good luck to you and your family, perhaps if we ever meet up in Aus you'd like to
retrain as a chippy !!!!!! Seeya Kennyboy

<Steve &amp>; "Family" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Hi,
    > As some of you know we are in our early stages of migrating and I would like to
    > change my job direction from being a boring IT specialist to something a bit
    > more ?????
    > When reading the many threads on this site its looks like the building trade is
    > flourishing - I have a little way to go before getting my visa so I'm thinking it
    > might me a good idea to do a crash course in some trade - we have courses in the
    > UK, where apparently you can become a plumber in 6 weeks! - Is this really
    > possibly? - Is it worth it? - Will I really be any good at the end of it? (I have
    > to do some more research)
    > - I know at much experience in life is useful...but...
    > I will consider my hand at anything but I don't REALLY know whats available in
    > Perth - I've even thought about doing a boat handling course, then thought its
    > probably cheaper to do once I'm over there.
    > Financially I shouldn't be in too bad a situation, should be able to buy a nice
    > house outright, able to live for a few months without any income but I would like
    > to get some idea on what I should expect I shall be doing eventually.
    > This is just some of the avenues I'm looking at - any other advice on job
    > direction, opportunities, offer of employment greatly received.
    > Thankyou
    > Steve (Age 32) Wife & 2 lovely daughters
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

pommie bastard

Anyone who is in building trade will do well here right now , thats why loads of building trade workers are coming .Most are on contract to big companys who will drop prices as soon as boom is over so get what you can now. Every building boom will go bust its all down to interest rates that are at 20year low.Not all are in building trade some jobs are very poor in pay and conditions so dream on.

Grub

God you are such a miserable f****. I start reading an enjoyable thread and then suddenly i get to your posting and, just as we cant help but look when there's a car accident, i end up reading your drivel and yes- you can still amaze me! Have you anything good to say about anythihg?
My husband is a Chippy and alot of our penpals going to Perth are manual tradespeople, and there are never going to stop needing people to build, repair and revamp houses. No computer/ technical advance is ever going to be able to fix a sofit, put up a dado rail, mend a broken cistern, so to all you hard working skilled people out there- Australia has heaps to offer- you wont be out of work. And at least with the hard earned dollars that you earn, you can enjoy afternoons on the beach with your family, giving them a healhtier, more pleasuable start to life.

That off my chest.... i bid you farewell.
Cheers

Nicky
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dotty

We are in Queensland Building Trade. There are certainly jobs here, (at moment) as it seems in most other states. However, it is not like the Uk, in Aus you really need Proper Qualifications, that is Full Trade Papers, formal Training, Apprenteship completed etc. It is highly regulated, (which is good) and big penalties for those employing unqualified. The big jobs have Unions checking up everybody has the correct cards, licenses, etc, even inidvidual building sites subject to this now. Financial checks, insurances all done too, could not see anybody risking employing non compliant people. Building boom really not expected to go on forever tho, general feeling is another one or two years, although some say give it 6 months. Just be aware it is not a Country where anyone can set up as a builder etc, Tradesmen are also held liable for their work for years to come too. Hope this helps.

Thunder Ace

"kennyboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
    > Hi Steve, I'm in the early stages as you are but I'm sorry to hear that you want to
    > retrain as a plumber ( possibly!!) . I'm a chippy who has 20 years exp. and
    > I'mstill learning. I work regularly with my best mate ( a plumber
    > ! ) and he had to take a 5 year apprenticeship.
    > Your question sums up why I'm going, it seems to me that in the UK a man can lose
    > his job , go down to B&Q and buy some really bad tools and call himself a chippy!!
    > ( I'm on a roll now, getting really steamed up!!!) The problem is with the
    > customers who watch programs on TV and think we're all put to rip off all and
    > sundrie. I've been self employed for around 10 years and have never had a day
    > without work! All work comes from referals. Don't be fooled into thinking you can
    > retrain so easily, My mate earns good money putting right other peoples ( note I
    > don't say plumbers ) attempts at his trade.
    > It's not as easy as the tv programs try to make it look.

Sorry Kennyboy but I gotta disagree. I admit that some people will struggle to
develop a decent level of skill, but in my experience there is nothing difficult
about building work in general. I found plumbing extremely easy to pick up, carpentry
a bit more difficult because it takes more skill. I've built a large extension on my
own house and did most of the work myself including plumbing, carpentry, electrics,
brickwork and plastering. I've seen several examples of professional work and I know
that much of my own work is to a better standard although I will concede to making a
few cock-ups along the way, but how else do you learn? Preparation is the key, do
your homework before you start and things will work out fine. I agree that not all
tradesmen are out to rip people off, just most of them are. By the way, I work in IT
now but I used to work on the buildings, and that's what I expect to have to do in
Oz. I fancy getting into the plant hire game, but this time the seat will be behind a
desk and not in the cab of an excavator. Money, Money, Money; Gimme, Gimme, Gimme.

Thunder Ace

Grub

Dear Thunder Ace

I would suggest that your quote below may stir some negaitvity. My husband is a carpenter, and many of our friends have trades. What you said was ill considered and ill informed. You may have just had a bad experience.
Please dont pigeonhole people.
Thanks
Nicky

'tradesmen are out to rip people off, just most of them are.' Thunder Ace
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Jez

Nicky

That's not fair. He or she did not say that. What they said was: "I agree that not
all tradesmen are out to rip people off, just most of them are."

Jez.


"NickyTurner" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Dear Thunder Ace
    > I would suggest that your quote below may stir some negaitvity. My husband is a
    > carpenter, and many of our friends have trades. What you said was ill considered
    > and ill informed. You may have just had a bad experience. Please dont pigeonhole
    > people. Thanks Nicky
    > 'tradesmen are out to rip people off, just most of them are.' Thunder Ace
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

Grub

Yes- and???
I think that is saying 'most trades people rip people off' -tell me what other way i can read it?.
I cannot see how it can possibly be misinterpreted?
I'm not cross really- just thought it was a bit like saying all black people are robbers etc etc.

Grotbags

I've seen several examples of professional work and I know
that much of my own work is to a better standard
Thunder Ace
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Thunder Ace

If your work is a better standard, then theres isn't professional.

Don

I did all the carpentry (inc hanging ceiling), electrics, tiling (but not plumbing) on a new bathroom and it looked the dogs'! I didn't even read any manuals, just guessed a bit where to put stuff, assemble, saw etc and read the instructions on the light fittings etc.

Having said that, it was probably a death trap and I sold the flat a couple of months later.

Don

Garyp

Any way, whats wrong with being a robber?