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Old Apr 13th 2006, 7:17 am
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...or did anyone else, when reading the news about her staying in Oz for a while, to write a book, think "well what visa is she on? Too old at 32 for a backpackers. She has no job so can't be sponsored .Does not seem to be here on PR...hmmm what visa applies to her circumstances".
There again I went throught the same process when I heard that 52 year old Leo Sayer came to Oz- what visa category did he arrive on?

maybe I am just too fixated by visas?
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...or did anyone else, when reading the news about her staying in Oz for a while, to write a book, think "well what visa is she on? Too old at 32 for a backpackers. She has no job so can't be sponsored .Does not seem to be here on PR...hmmm what visa applies to her circumstances".
There again I went throught the same process when I heard that 52 year old Leo Sayer came to Oz- what visa category did he arrive on?

maybe I am just too fixated by visas?
Probably this one
http://www.immi.gov.au/faq/migrate/m.../special01.htm

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I looked it up (sad!) and can't see that it applies to either person:

Individuals with an internationally recognised record of exceptional and outstanding achievement, and still prominent in a profession, the arts, sport, or research and academia may apply to migrate or stay permanently in Australia

def, was not true of Leo Sayer 2 years ago! Or do I misjudge him?
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I looked it up (sad!) and can't see that it applies to either person:

Individuals with an internationally recognised record of exceptional and outstanding achievement, and still prominent in a profession, the arts, sport, or research and academia may apply to migrate or stay permanently in Australia

def, was not true of Leo Sayer 2 years ago! Or do I misjudge him?
That is just your opinion though.

The fact they are well known and have money is enough.

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...or did anyone else, when reading the news about her staying in Oz for a while, to write a book, think "well what visa is she on? Too old at 32 for a backpackers. She has no job so can't be sponsored .Does not seem to be here on PR...hmmm what visa applies to her circumstances".
There again I went throught the same process when I heard that 52 year old Leo Sayer came to Oz- what visa category did he arrive on?

maybe I am just too fixated by visas?
She may be on a holiday visa for 3 months - you can renew them a couple of times if you can prove you have (I think its) $2000 to live on each time you renew your visa.
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Originally Posted by KayC
She may be on a holiday visa for 3 months - you can renew them a couple of times if you can prove you have (I think its) $2000 to live on each time you renew your visa.
You can get a 6 month tourist visa as well.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
You can get a 6 month tourist visa as well.
True, you're not supposed to "work" though i.e. writing a book
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
You can get a 6 month tourist visa as well.

Aye, but what about this working bit....writing is working ain't it
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Money and fame (infamy) talk.

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Originally Posted by Muzza04
Aye, but what about this working bit....writing is working ain't it

If she's not being paid to write it then it's probably ok. Anyone can write a book if they want too.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
If she's not being paid to write it then it's probably ok. Anyone can write a book if they want too.
Of course, she's got a publicist too.
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Originally Posted by Pomster
...or did anyone else, when reading the news about her staying in Oz for a while, to write a book, think "well what visa is she on? Too old at 32 for a backpackers. She has no job so can't be sponsored .Does not seem to be here on PR...hmmm what visa applies to her circumstances".
There again I went throught the same process when I heard that 52 year old Leo Sayer came to Oz- what visa category did he arrive on?

maybe I am just too fixated by visas?


She will probably be on a 457 visa
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
If she's not being paid to write it then it's probably ok. Anyone can write a book if they want too.
I don't think it is, I'm sure there have been a few cases, or at least one where an author has visited Australia on a tourist visa, worked on their book and been deported by DIMIA. I can't be arsed to do a search on it, but you can if you want.

It's easy to forget, now I'm a citizen, just how harsh DIMIA can be.
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Originally Posted by renth
True, you're not supposed to "work" though i.e. writing a book
I think her writing a book here is not necessarily an actual conflict with the terms of a tourist visa. She is not to take recognised paid employment (that most likely could be done by an Australian) while here.

Generating private income for which she pays no taxes here on, and which may be paid to an overseas account, by an overseas 'employer' and which does not specifically require her to be located in Australia while 'working', I think you will find is different. We are hypothesising about the production of 'intellectual property' here. Tricky stuff.
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Originally Posted by renth
I don't think it is, I'm sure there have been a few cases, or at least one where an author has visited Australia on a tourist visa, worked on their book and been deported by DIMIA. I can't be arsed to do a search on it, but you can if you want.
Pity. It would be interesting to find out just what exactly were the issues that led DIMIA to cancel someone's visa regarding this subject. I think you would find there's more to it than simply writing or researching for a book.
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