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I do see the bigger picture and I have for a long time, that's the problem. I can't understand why you think this is a single incident, don't you see that these types of incidents are connected by people who have the same goal?

You can't compare the IRA with Islamic extremists, they're playing a totally different ball game. The IRA have one goal, the Islamic extremists have many aimed at anyone who doesn't sing from their hymn sheet.
Remember social media wasn't present then like it is today, what people didn't know back then didn't hurt them. We get to know a lot of information nowadays, It's a different society with added worries. People are going to react differently.

Yes we have a hostage situation, which I hope gets resolved soon. The fact that no one has been shot yet, or the fact that a bomb hasn't been detonated yet, doesn't necessarily mean it won't happen or there isn't one. I also very much doubt this is a crank, there's something just not right about this ' hostage' situation, but I'm sure all will become clear.

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Have just watched 3 short videos from an 'alternative' media source (ie not mainstream), in each one a different person, who identified themselves as one of the hostages, read three demands from their 'brother'

Send in an ISIS flag and one hostage will be released
Tell the world that this situation is an Islamic state attack on Australia, and two hostages will be released
Arrange a live hook up with Tony Abbott, for a 'short talk with our brother', and five hostages will be released.

At the end of one of the videos, I heard a man's voice saying 'that's it'.

May be fake? Mainstream media has been saying for hours that they have been sent videos of the hostages reading demands, but they have not released them at the request of police.

Forgot to say, the 'hostages' also said that their 'brother' requests his 'brothers' not to detonate explosive devices around Sydney yet, and that they can't understand why their 'brother's' demands haven't been met yet, as they are simple demands. One finished with 'please help us'.

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Who was the guy holding the flag up ?

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The flag was being held up as a backdrop to the hostages, the person holding it can't be seen (ie is hidden behind the flag)

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No on the video there was a paki type guy holding the flag while one of the hostages was speaking

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Live TV is showing the building being stormed by police.

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Looks like they don't give a shit there, hey, I wonder how many bullets they put in him !

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Good,can we get back to Michael Clarke's injury please.

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Lots of bangs and flashes, then a flurry of paramedics rushing people away on stretchers.

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Police have confirmed the siege is over but no news yet on casualties.

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2 dead it is alleged

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Charming.....you'd be perfect to run for UKIP!

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as reoprted by yahoo news, gunman identified as the person who sends abusive letters to families of Ausralians killed in Afghanistan

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/least-five...0.html#n8UM7kQ

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2 hostages confirmed dead now :( and the gunman.

Can anyone explain to me how a criminal with so many serious convictions was allowed to roam free on bail? Words fail me.

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Indeed. How did he ever get bail? This country gave him refuge when he sought it and this is how he chooses to repay his fellow citizens. We need a zero tolerance on these evil beings. No second chances, for them or their families.