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Old Apr 21st 2005, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Pootle
I have lived in Melbourne now for 3 1/2 months and am loving it, although feeling the "I miss my old life" vibes that people have mentioned. No I wouldn't want to move back, but just miss the familiarity of my life as it was. Today for the first time I bought the International Express newspaper. I have not seen it before so thought I would have a read - what doom and gloom! Makes me remember all the reasons we wanted to come to oz. The schools in uk are in crisis,immigration problems, more speed cameras being put on motorways, political correctness gone mad (one village carnival which has been held for a century has now stopped because someone last year launched a claim for compensation), policemen getting murdered, old ladies being mugged, innocent people being locked up for protecting their own property whilst the villains get off.........
The list goes on and on...,
I know stuff does happen in oz but not to the extent in the uk. In an article by Frederick Forsyth he states that Britain (in Europe) is a finished country and he shall advise his sons to leave for Australia! My experience so far is that people are more content and happier over here and its where I would like my children to grow up...
Now I've got that off my chest I will put the paper in the bin and not buy it again!!
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Hmm, the International Express, the overseas version of the well balanced & unbiased UK version, which in my opinion is probably the worst newspaper in the world.

Fact, UK=Australia=same problems (some better, some worse).
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Hmm, the International Express, the overseas version of the well balanced & unbiased UK version, which in my opinion is probably the worst newspaper in the world.

Fact, UK=Australia=same problems (some better, some worse).
The extension of Desmonds OK magasine and porn empire. I am suprised they havent put 'pictures of tits in that toilet paper.
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Originally Posted by Grayling
Frederick Forsyth is a well known Right wing reactionary bigot and writer of fiction.

He is also a staunch supporter of the Tory party and vehemently anti-labour.

I would take what he says with a huge pinch of salt

Especially as there is an election looming.

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He is a bit of a tosser.

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well maybe i better not read any more news....
better to carry on living in blissful ignorance...
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Old Apr 21st 2005, 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Pootle
well maybe i better not read any more news....
better to carry on living in blissful ignorance...
Reading news is OK

What you read was propaganda.

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Old Apr 21st 2005, 7:45 pm
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Its not doom and gloom in OZ.
Crime in OZ falls to record lows because of record low unemployment and booming economy.

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Thats just some selective figures released by Bob Carr for NSW. The article does not refer to Australia as a whole. It does demonstrate the low level of journalism in Australia.
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I swear that in OZ you will be robbed every single day, if not by some low life scum then from the low life politician upping taxes and finding more things to tax.
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Hi,

Thanks for your post, put my mind at rest again, had a mini fit yesterday when I read and entire thread from people going back to the uk because they missed family etc. I am going to Melbourne too, got the visa last week but when you read the stuff like that you think you are being crazy wanting to move. Any advise on Melbourne do's and dont's on arrival, are you happy you made the move,

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Hi,

Thanks for your post, put my mind at rest again, had a mini fit yesterday when I read and entire thread from people going back to the uk because they missed family etc. I am going to Melbourne too, got the visa last week but when you read the stuff like that you think you are being crazy wanting to move. Any advise on Melbourne do's and dont's on arrival, are you happy you made the move,

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Hi Gillian!
Yes we are very happy we made the move. Have 2 kids - 3 and 6. The eldest settling well into school. There is so much to do here that doesn't cost a fortune. Loads of great parks to take the kids to. A family ticket to the zoo only $50. The coast 30 mins away. If ever it was a nice day in the uk we would be stuck for places to go, invariably would just be in the back garden! I'm not especially sporty but do love the outdoors, walking etc. Just been down the great ocean road on hols which was excellent - would highly recommend it. Saw kangaroos, koalas, parrots, cockatoos! Also the 12 apostles is well worth a visit. When are you planning to move?
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Hi,

Thanks for your post, put my mind at rest again, had a mini fit yesterday when I read and entire thread from people going back to the uk because they missed family etc. I am going to Melbourne too, got the visa last week but when you read the stuff like that you think you are being crazy wanting to move. Any advise on Melbourne do's and dont's on arrival, are you happy you made the move,

Kind regards
Gillian
Ive been here a bit longer, almost 5 years now & still loving it. It does take time to settle though, after the initial feeling of being on holiday then finding work etc.
Give it time, as Pootle says theres always something to do here especially in Summer, Spring & Autumn.
I'm sure you will love it.
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Thanks for sharing that with us - I think. Now get out there and move on

Let's face it, good news just doesn't sell papers and never will.

The British papers at the moment are full of crap stories because either the owner is tory and wants to show labour in a bad light or vise versa.

I don't read them anymore except Sunday Times and that is mainly for all the other sections. Watch channel 4 news cos Jon Snow makes me laugh. Read all other news from various sites on the web.
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ps thats nothing to do with being a Scot & having to pay $4 for the bloody thing.
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Originally Posted by Amazulu
Hmm, the International Express, the overseas version of the well balanced & unbiased UK version, which in my opinion is probably the worst newspaper in the world.

Fact, UK=Australia=same problems (some better, some worse).
Oh come come now, what about the balanced writing columns of the celebrated Daily Mail ? Surely the last bastion of liberal thinking......?
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Old Apr 22nd 2005, 1:05 am
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Hi There,

Thanks for getting back to me, unfortunately we are not leaving here till the 16th of January, only because when we did tell the families it did not go so well and we thought we would not get a responseon the visa till the end of July and when we got it in April we decided it would not be fare to then say we are going earlier than anticipated and besides, it gives us more time to save money, we have sold our house and move out in July into mum and dads (aagghh!!) but better than spending a fortune in rent!.

Cannot wait to go, I just wish I was there, we are going to melbourne too. Lived there for 7 months a few years ago and loved it, I am sure some things have changed a lot but we still want to try.

How did you decide on a suburb are you near the city, I suppose it will depend on where we get work, are you renting?

Nice talking to you!
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