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astera Oct 4th 2014 5:07 pm

Internet provider recommendations?
 
Need to get the family home (Cronulla, NSW) connected to the world but have no idea which providers offer decent quality and service.

What I need is:
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)
- fixed IP address
- no monthly transfer/bandwidth limits

Any ideas which companies to look at and which ones to steer clear of?

GarryP Oct 4th 2014 6:47 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
Need to get the family home (Cronulla, NSW) connected to the world but have no idea which providers offer decent quality and service.

What I need is:
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)

Unless you happen to be on the NBN, you'll get at max the 25Mbps rate that ADSL2+ provides. Check here myNBN | Welcome . Obviously the further from the ADSL exchange you are, the slower it gets. People get Netflix HD here, but no guarantees - its down to geography most of the time.

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
- fixed IP address

I think there are a number of providers that do this, but at extra cost usually.

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
- no monthly transfer/bandwidth limits

Ha, ha, ha - that's a good one.

Everything is limited.


Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
Any ideas which companies to look at and which ones to steer clear of?

Most people end up with Telstra, and that's the one that most people say to avoid. Dodo also has a bad rap. iiNET seems to get good word. Basically checkout Whirlpool Forums for current views of each provider.

Note, in some locations being able to get broadband at all is a trial - thanks to the wonderful way Australian services are screwed up by government...

astera Oct 4th 2014 7:11 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 
Many thanks, I was just going to add that there is no NBN in the area, and unfortunately cable is also out of the question. So as you mentioned it's ADSL2+ or nothing at all.

As this connection would almost solely be used for Netflix I think my recommendation will be to take the $100 per month (+ Netflix subscription, + Unotelly DNS) and splash it out on Amazon blu-ray discs instead...

GarryP Oct 4th 2014 8:53 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428225)
Many thanks, I was just going to add that there is no NBN in the area, and unfortunately cable is also out of the question. So as you mentioned it's ADSL2+ or nothing at all.

As this connection would almost solely be used for Netflix I think my recommendation will be to take the $100 per month (+ Netflix subscription, + Unotelly DNS) and splash it out on Amazon blu-ray discs instead...

Well, its depends on what you want.

Quickflix do blu-rays by mail for movies (since Netflix doesn't have much in that way). For US TV Netflix is good, whereas for UK TV then hooking into iPlayer at al is best. getflix is ~$3pm and you can get 100GB of bandwidth quite easily.

drizzcool Oct 4th 2014 10:02 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)

Unfortunately, above average speed is something that isn't offered in Australia, unless - like said before - you have the NBN.


Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
- fixed IP address

You should be able to change this for no cost within your router settings. I'm with Optus, and can change it at my will between static and dynamic.

Good luck with your quest for the best internet!

spouse of scouse Oct 4th 2014 11:14 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 
I've tried a few internet providers over the years. Wasn't impressed with Telstra, mainly due to poor customer service. Vivid Wi-Fi was great, but Optus has bought them out and my area fell off the network :(

Am now with iiNet 4G (wireless) and so far have been very impressed. I stuck the sim in the wrong way in my new device :o I was directed to an iiNet shop to get it removed - they did that, and not only supplied a new sim, but a new device as well as they'd scratched the old one a tiny bit. I love great customer service like that.

astera Oct 4th 2014 11:54 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by drizzcool (Post 11428313)
You should be able to change this for no cost within your router settings. I'm with Optus, and can change it at my will between static and dynamic.

Internally you can set your own number range, but I think this is something that the provider dictates as they are the one assigning you the external IP. Here they control whether it's dynamic (which happens a lot with ADSL-type setups) or fixed.

For Netflix the latter is better as you can then use a service like Unotelly to make you appear to be in the US, without having to update your IP with them each time it changes (not hard to do, but just another step to take each day).

GarryP Oct 5th 2014 11:23 am

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428369)
For Netflix the latter is better as you can then use a service like Unotelly to make you appear to be in the US, without having to update your IP with them each time it changes (not hard to do, but just another step to take each day).

Most decent modems have an automated service to maintain dynamic DNS services.

Not sure if the Oz bargain basement units you get with the ISP do - but you probably want something better than them anyway (eg you want 5Ghz, ac).

bcworld Oct 5th 2014 3:20 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
Need to get the family home (Cronulla, NSW) connected to the world but have no idea which providers offer decent quality and service.

What I need is:
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)
- fixed IP address
- no monthly transfer/bandwidth limits

Any ideas which companies to look at and which ones to steer clear of?

I have used TPG for years now.

Its $60 per month for unlimited ADSL2+ with home phone (which I don't use).

TPG ADSL2+ with Home Phone Line Rental Plans - Bundle and Save

I don't have any complaints...my download speed is consistently around 15-16Mbps, use it for Netflix no problems - occasionally when other devices are streaming at the same time it gets a bit pixelated temporarily.

astera Oct 6th 2014 5:25 am

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 
Thanks guys, I think I'll tell them to invest a chunk of those funds into a stockpile of blu-ray discs for the coming year and simply wait for the arrival of NBN to their street/building.

How fast are they rolling out NBN, are things progressing really quickly or at a snail's pace?

Beoz Oct 6th 2014 11:35 am

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
Need to get the family home (Cronulla, NSW) connected to the world but have no idea which providers offer decent quality and service.

What I need is:
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)
- fixed IP address
- no monthly transfer/bandwidth limits

Any ideas which companies to look at and which ones to steer clear of?

If you can find an affordable option, tether off your mobile phone with 4G. Faster than both my home and office internet connection.

PS thought you were moving to the 'Goldie'?

GarryP Oct 6th 2014 12:44 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11429846)
How fast are they rolling out NBN, are things progressing really quickly or at a snail's pace?

Turnball's got hold of it (on the orders of Abbott)

Hence he's stuffed the board with his (Telstra) yes men, the plan is now even slower to roll out, will almost certainly cost more (once the back-handers to Telstra have been paid) will be much slower (it's now UK style fibre to the node, rather than fibre to the home) and will cost much more in upkeep.

Think of all the ways a politician can stuff something up - they are doing all of them.

Amazulu Oct 6th 2014 12:46 pm

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by astera (Post 11428170)
Need to get the family home (Cronulla, NSW) connected to the world but have no idea which providers offer decent quality and service.

What I need is:
- above-average speed (enough to play HD content via Netflix)
- fixed IP address
- no monthly transfer/bandwidth limits

Any ideas which companies to look at and which ones to steer clear of?

I've been with iinet for 8 years on ADSL2+ and have found them to be really good
There are unlimited options but whether the quality is any good is debatable. Unlimited is not common in Australia due to our location in the world and the limited bandwidth coming in the country. I have 500Gb which is plenty - and I download and stream like a demon
To stream HD you need about 5Mb (BBC reckon 3.5Mb), so not too onerous. Remember, a lot of the US has not got great internet speeds
Have a look at my thread on streaming video as I've put as lot of effort into sorting myself out with this. Head and shoulders above the rest is Netflix, closely followed by Hulu plus, Amazon and Crackle. BBC iplayer is getting better but 4oD, Channel 5 and ITV are useless for streaming - basically unwatchable at time due to all the buffering, and the ads are seriously pants

astera Oct 7th 2014 1:25 am

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 11430206)
PS thought you were moving to the 'Goldie'?

Yup, unless Brisbane/Redcliffe makes some sort of miraculous impression on me come December, Gold Coast it is. :)

This internet setup is basically for the family home in Cronulla, so mainly for the parents during the months they are there. The sole purpose is to have Netflix - the only other use for the internet they have is to read newspapers and check emails on their ipads, and here they just get a Telstra SIM that works lightning fast. Makes me always think that there only is one true, quality network in Oz. But as a short-term visitor each time I still go for the $2/day scheme with Optus to get 1/2-gig of data each day included.


Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 11430234)
Think of all the ways a politician can stuff something up - they are doing all of them.

You would have thought this is a simple task really, at least in central areas. I just checked how the rollout is progressing and central Sydney is still in the wilderness when it comes to NBN.

astera Oct 7th 2014 1:29 am

Re: Internet provider recommendations?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 11430235)
I've been with iinet for 8 years on ADSL2+ and have found them to be really good
There are unlimited options but whether the quality is any good is debatable. Unlimited is not common in Australia due to our location in the world and the limited bandwidth coming in the country. I have 500Gb which is plenty - and I download and stream like a demon
To stream HD you need about 5Mb (BBC reckon 3.5Mb), so not too onerous. Remember, a lot of the US has not got great internet speeds
Have a look at my thread on streaming video as I've put as lot of effort into sorting myself out with this. Head and shoulders above the rest is Netflix, closely followed by Hulu plus, Amazon and Crackle. BBC iplayer is getting better but 4oD, Channel 5 and ITV are useless for streaming - basically unwatchable at time due to all the buffering, and the ads are seriously pants

You're right, if they have 500GB it's going to be pretty much the same as 'unlimited' as they'll never reach that sort of transfer ceiling. How do you get around the IP check with Netflix, do you use something like Unotelly and then just update your IP with them every time your ISP assigns you a new one?

Living in Singapore our ISP automatically does this for us, showing as as "Yanks" when accessing Netflix or Hulu, and as "Poms" when going to any of the major UK streaming sites.

I've used both Netflix and Hulu and don't have a preference apart from the latter chucking in annoying ads and providing a lot of shows on a "last X episodes" only basis. Each service has some unique content so in a way the only solution to watch the shows you like is to alternate between the two companies every few months.

Ditto on 5mbps being enough for HD, that's even what Netflix recommends: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306

Question is will data rates hold up in the evenings/weekends at peak times?


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