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AndrewMarilyn Oct 22nd 2010 9:09 am

Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
We arrive early morning Thursday 6 Jan in Sydney and I start work there Monday 10th.

Thursday we will be knackered, but what are the things we must sort on the Friday?

By then we will already have a Oz bank account and temporary accommodation.......looking back on your move, what did you do/meed to do immediately?

Ta

Wol Oct 22nd 2010 9:33 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
Sleep, and car!

Bermudashorts Oct 22nd 2010 10:02 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
Get online and order a TFN, you can't do it until you get there. As you start work straight away the sooner you have it the better.

Go to the bank and activate your account.

Dorothy Oct 22nd 2010 11:22 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by AndrewMarilyn (Post 8936587)
We arrive early morning Thursday 6 Jan in Sydney and I start work there Monday 10th.

Thursday we will be knackered, but what are the things we must sort on the Friday?

By then we will already have a Oz bank account and temporary accommodation.......looking back on your move, what did you do/meed to do immediately?

Ta

http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=345774

derson Oct 22nd 2010 6:10 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
I second the sleep and car recommendation - although it depends if you're in the city or not for the car, you might get away with public transport???? I've been here 2 weeks and am still a bit screwed up with the body clock (although I've had to work some late shifts to overlap UK hours)

And for me, getting internet and a phone sorted. I picked up a Crazy Johns sim at Melbourne airport and then a mobile broadband dongle at Target later on. Absolute lifesavers....


Originally Posted by AndrewMarilyn (Post 8936587)
We arrive early morning Thursday 6 Jan in Sydney and I start work there Monday 10th.

Thursday we will be knackered, but what are the things we must sort on the Friday?

By then we will already have a Oz bank account and temporary accommodation.......looking back on your move, what did you do/meed to do immediately?

Ta


Alfresco Oct 22nd 2010 6:23 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
Change your Oz bank account address to your Oz temp address and get a print out as proof of address. Then use this to...

Exchange your drivers license(s) for Oz ones. It's a great piece of ID with your new address on, even if it's temp.

Can't buy a car unless you have a Oz drivers license. (at least in QLD with a QLD license)

Good luck. :fingerscrossed:

Alfresco Oct 22nd 2010 6:27 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8936664)
Get online and order a TFN, you can't do it until you get there. As you start work straight away the sooner you have it the better.

Go to the bank and activate your account.

Yes and if they give you poxy (savings only) bank cards, order decent Visa or Mastercard debit cards for your account so you can spend more than a restricted daily limit.

saffymouse Oct 22nd 2010 7:17 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8936664)
Get online and order a TFN, you can't do it until you get there. As you start work straight away the sooner you have it the better.

Go to the bank and activate your account.

I'm new to all this, what's a "TFN"?

verystormy Oct 22nd 2010 7:26 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
TFN = Tax file number. A bit like a national insurance number and essential for work in order to pay taxes.

In WA you dont need a WA licence to buy a car. In fact i got away without showing them my UK one as i had misplaced it.

Alfresco Oct 22nd 2010 7:42 pm

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Originally Posted by saffymouse (Post 8937181)
I'm new to all this, what's a "TFN"?


Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 8937192)
TFN = Tax file number. A bit like a national insurance number and essential for work in order to pay taxes.

In WA you dont need a WA licence to buy a car. In fact i got away without showing them my UK one as i had misplaced it.

Your name according to the ATO (Australian Tax Office). ;)

http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co...tent/38760.htm

Bermudashorts Oct 22nd 2010 7:57 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8937129)

Can't buy a car unless you have a Oz drivers license. (at least in QLD with a QLD license)

We bought a car despite only having UK licences, so it is possible in NSW.

Still it is something that will need doing so might as well get it out of the way.

RachH Oct 22nd 2010 8:47 pm

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for us, the first thing was picking up a hire car that we had organised for the first two weeks...then drove it through the local BWS drive through bottle shop (new experience for us that!) for some beer and champagne, then visited the local IGA - didn't realise that there were other supermarkets in the area - was horrified until we discovered Coles and Woolworths - and bought a few lovely seafoody things for dinner. then straight back to the holiday rental and chilled out with wine and food whilst trying to stay awake for the rest of the day and evening!

the next few days like jet-lagged zombies we activated our bank accounts, got our Queensland drivers licences, signed on with telstra for mobile phones and a mobile broadband dongle thingie as we had our laptop with us(not alot of choice for decent coverage in our area unfortunately - we are still with them 2 years later so not all bad). Once we'd done that we went online and got our tax file numbers, signed on with medicare and started looking at permanent rental.

good luck with everything. its a shame you have to start work so quickly...

Dreamy Oct 22nd 2010 9:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8937129)
Can't buy a car unless you have a Oz drivers license. (at least in QLD with a QLD license)

Good luck. :fingerscrossed:

We did - was just a matter of providing enough other forms of id.

Alfresco Oct 22nd 2010 9:27 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8937213)
We bought a car despite only having UK licences, so it is possible in NSW.

Still it is something that will need doing so might as well get it out of the way.


Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 8937286)
We did - was just a matter of providing enough other forms of id.

Must be a QLD thing then. The car dealer said if would be "1000" times more difficult to buy a car in QLD without a QLD license.

Anyway, had them done way before then so not worried. :thumbup:

Dreamy Oct 22nd 2010 10:36 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8937295)
Must be a QLD thing then. The car dealer said if would be "1000" times more difficult to buy a car in QLD without a QLD license.

Anyway, had them done way before then so not worried. :thumbup:

We were in Qld :D

Alfresco Oct 22nd 2010 10:38 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 8937374)
We were in Qld :D

How many demerit points do you have? ;)

Dreamy Oct 22nd 2010 10:40 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8937377)
How many demerit points do you have? ;)

None - I tend to find that if you don't speed, you don't get demerit points (well, not ones for speeding anyway)

Controversial, I know

Iando Oct 22nd 2010 10:45 pm

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1) Make sure you get a driving licence - you use it everywhere as id
2) SAT NAV - invaluable when you 1st arrive
3) TFN - as already mentioned on thread
4) Medicare cards
5) Try and do some fun things

Lisa and Martin Oct 23rd 2010 2:18 am

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Although one could argue not strictly NECESSARY....we have digital cameras that do videos, we did a 10 minute video of us (one person would interview the other) in the last hour before we left our house in the UK, and another one when we arrived in Australia, then a third one in our new empty house just before our container arrived. Sometimes during those moments you are so busy 'coping' that life becomes a bit of a blur. I look back on those videos now and treasure them as they were landmark moments. It makes me remember what headspace we were in. :)

Sherlock Holmes Oct 23rd 2010 2:21 am

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ENJOY! :thumbup:

Alfresco Oct 23rd 2010 8:32 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Dreamy (Post 8937380)
None - I tend to find that if you don't speed, you don't get demerit points (well, not ones for speeding anyway)

Controversial, I know

Yep for some. I haven't get any either and hope to keep it that way.


Originally Posted by Iando (Post 8937384)
1) Make sure you get a driving licence - you use it everywhere as id
2) SAT NAV - invaluable when you 1st arrive
3) TFN - as already mentioned on thread
4) Medicare cards
5) Try and do some fun things

Yes GPS is a must. Just picked another one yesterday for the other car for $185 - Tom tom 250XL.

Hebe Oct 23rd 2010 9:14 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8937213)
We bought a car despite only having UK licences, so it is possible in NSW.

Still it is something that will need doing so might as well get it out of the way.

Not is you are on a temp visa.

Bermudashorts Oct 23rd 2010 9:26 am

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Originally Posted by Hebe (Post 8938167)
Not is you are on a temp visa.

Not what if you are on a temporary visa? Buy a car or change the driving licence? :confused:

I don't remember the car dealer asking to see my visa if the former.

steen1976 Oct 23rd 2010 8:59 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8938184)
Not what if you are on a temporary visa? Buy a car or change the driving licence? :confused:

I don't remember the car dealer asking to see my visa if the former.

Change the licence I think. You are allowed to keep using your UK licence if on a temp visa otherwise it needs to be changed within 3 months.

No worries buying a car though.

AndrewMarilyn Oct 27th 2010 10:23 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
Mobile dongle thingy? Is this a kind of wireless modem? We have just bought a new lap top for Oz.......what is the quickest/best way to connect when we arrive at our temporary address?

A and M




Originally Posted by RachH (Post 8937258)
for us, the first thing was picking up a hire car that we had organised for the first two weeks...then drove it through the local BWS drive through bottle shop (new experience for us that!) for some beer and champagne, then visited the local IGA - didn't realise that there were other supermarkets in the area - was horrified until we discovered Coles and Woolworths - and bought a few lovely seafoody things for dinner. then straight back to the holiday rental and chilled out with wine and food whilst trying to stay awake for the rest of the day and evening!

the next few days like jet-lagged zombies we activated our bank accounts, got our Queensland drivers licences, signed on with telstra for mobile phones and a mobile broadband dongle thingie as we had our laptop with us(not alot of choice for decent coverage in our area unfortunately - we are still with them 2 years later so not all bad). Once we'd done that we went online and got our tax file numbers, signed on with medicare and started looking at permanent rental.

good luck with everything. its a shame you have to start work so quickly...


Alfresco Oct 27th 2010 10:31 am

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by AndrewMarilyn (Post 8946322)
Mobile dongle thingy? Is this a kind of wireless modem? We have just bought a new lap top for Oz.......what is the quickest/best way to connect when we arrive at our temporary address?

A and M

Something like this:

http://store.vodafone.com.au/handset...broadband.aspx

Go into any mobile phone shop and check out prepaid mobile Internet deals like above.

Works well as long as you're in an area with good mobile phone coverage.

derson Oct 27th 2010 2:14 pm

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Couple more thoughts :

If possible, renew passports before you leave if they are getting close to expiry. Will save a load of hassle trying to do it when you get here.

Don't pick up a mobile broadband dongle at the airport when you first touch down, they are a lot more pricey than grabbing one at your local telco shop/dept store.


Originally Posted by AndrewMarilyn (Post 8936587)
We arrive early morning Thursday 6 Jan in Sydney and I start work there Monday 10th.

Thursday we will be knackered, but what are the things we must sort on the Friday?

By then we will already have a Oz bank account and temporary accommodation.......looking back on your move, what did you do/meed to do immediately?

Ta


Smudger82 Oct 27th 2010 5:27 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 
Whilst it is important to get an Oz licence, you can get away with using a British one. I used my British one for over a year even though you are meant to exchange it for an Oz one after 3 months. I used the British licence for ID everywhere, including buying a car from a dealer and opening a Westpac account.

I even got stopped for a random breath test by the cops and they checked my licence and gave me the green light.

Alfresco Oct 27th 2010 9:32 pm

Re: Initial Advice on Arrival in Oz
 

Originally Posted by Smudger82 (Post 8946807)
Whilst it is important to get an Oz licence, you can get away with using a British one. I used my British one for over a year even though you are meant to exchange it for an Oz one after 3 months. I used the British licence for ID everywhere, including buying a car from a dealer and opening a Westpac account.

I even got stopped for a random breath test by the cops and they checked my licence and gave me the green light.


:lol: That's thoroughness for you!

Smudger82 Oct 28th 2010 12:57 am

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Originally Posted by Alfresco (Post 8947136)
:lol: That's thoroughness for you!

My thoughts exactly, so it can't be that important.

Sherlock Holmes Oct 28th 2010 1:15 am

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I submit this short tale as an ex-copper UK. I was on holiday in Oz a few years back. Still a copper then. Flew from Melbourne to S.A. picked up a hire car with QLD plate. Drove back into Vic...some old dear decided to use me as target practice...outside a police station. Sgt and Senior Con arrived. Gave the sarge my UK licence which he unfurled and checked all over. Said he'd never seen a clean licence before. Said to his mate, "This blokes on holiday from QLD." "No I'm not, I'm on holiday from the UK" "Is that a pommy licence? Big isn't it." :unsure:

Sally Simpson Oct 28th 2010 1:55 am

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Originally Posted by Smudger82 (Post 8946807)
Whilst it is important to get an Oz licence, you can get away with using a British one. I used my British one for over a year even though you are meant to exchange it for an Oz one after 3 months. I used the British licence for ID everywhere, including buying a car from a dealer and opening a Westpac account.

I even got stopped for a random breath test by the cops and they checked my licence and gave me the green light.

I would not advise using your UK license over the 3 months as the police can & will check! Besides, it's not that hard to change, so why risk it?

To the OP, as you are starting work very soon after arrival, I would advise that you really prioritise what you need to sort out. TFN, as others have said, is important but you can do this online.
Make sure you get some rest & adjust to timezone before starting work. Stuff like Medicare can wait.

derson Oct 28th 2010 2:23 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Simpson (Post 8947635)
I would not advise using your UK license over the 3 months as the police can & will check! Besides, it's not that hard to change, so why risk it?

To the OP, as you are starting work very soon after arrival, I would advise that you really prioritise what you need to sort out. TFN, as others have said, is important but you can do this online.
Make sure you get some rest & adjust to timezone before starting work. Stuff like Medicare can wait.

Actually I made Medicare one of the first things I got sorted, even though I was still covered by travel insurance at the time (an aussie policy), together with joining Ambulance Victoria. Medicare office was just up the road so was dead easy for me even in my jetlagged state. Call it a little bit of peace of mind!

AlliF Oct 28th 2010 11:31 am

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[QUOTE=Iando;8937384]1) Make sure you get a driving licence - you use it everywhere as id


You dont need a driving licence for ID at all - i dont drive (medical condition prevents it) and have been here 4 years with no need to provide a driving licence as proof of ID. Passport suffices just as well.

Medicare card I would definitely get sorted though - you dont seem to exist without one over here! ;)

Smudger82 Oct 28th 2010 1:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Simpson (Post 8947635)
I would not advise using your UK license over the 3 months as the police can & will check! Besides, it's not that hard to change, so why risk it?

To the OP, as you are starting work very soon after arrival, I would advise that you really prioritise what you need to sort out. TFN, as others have said, is important but you can do this online.
Make sure you get some rest & adjust to timezone before starting work. Stuff like Medicare can wait.

The Police did check and said it was fine.

Sally Simpson Oct 28th 2010 2:13 pm

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Originally Posted by Smudger82 (Post 8948662)
The Police did check and said it was fine.

Well I would say you were lucky. I was stopped for a breath test after we had been here 6 weeks & they told me very politely but firmly to make sure I got my QLD licence within 3 months. They even called through to the station to check how long I could use my UK one for.
As I said before, why take the risk?

Iando Oct 28th 2010 9:23 pm

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[QUOTE=scotdownunder;8948533]

Originally Posted by Iando (Post 8937384)
1) Make sure you get a driving licence - you use it everywhere as id


You dont need a driving licence for ID at all - i dont drive (medical condition prevents it) and have been here 4 years with no need to provide a driving licence as proof of ID. Passport suffices just as well.

Medicare card I would definitely get sorted though - you dont seem to exist without one over here! ;)

Agree you dont need it as id but I have found it great for acceptance everywhere and it is convenient to carry v a passport.

riteshvarma Oct 29th 2010 1:21 am

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I don't mean to hijack this thread but I am in a similar situation and thought it would be best to continue along on this one rather than start a new one.

I am arriving in Sydney on 13th evening at 8 PM with wifey (no kids) and then going straight to holiday rental. Start work on 16th morning which gives me exactly two days to complete must do formalities. So reading this and other post, I have made a list. Any suggestions are most appreciated!

Day1 (Sunday)
1. Buy PAYG prepaid sims - split between Virgin prepaid and Crazy John's. Need something with cheap international calls and mobile internet.
2. Buy prepaid mobile dongle - Haven't decided on which one
3. Buy groceries, drinks and essentials
4. Relax and soak in the new place
5. Oh yes- apply for TFN

Day2 (Monday)
1. Activate my bank account
2. Collect my credit cards from bank (if they approve it before I get there)
3. Go to medicare office and register ourselves.
4. Shop around for a new car - was looking at Honda Jazz or Hyundai i30 though not sure if the dealers will offer finance on job offer letter without salary slips. This can wait but it would help rather than spending on rentals for long time. Any suggestions on buying a car?

Day3 - Work

Day5 - Identify suburbs where I want to stay and which fall in my rental budget

Day6, 7, 8- Search and visit rentals, hopefully find something and get accepted. Trying to prepare a document pack for applications.

Day 14,15 move in to rental, shop for furniture and white goods

Day 16 hopefully I should be done

Day 21, 22 - exchange my US license for a NSW one

Now only if I can get it done :fingerscrossed:

PMV Oct 29th 2010 2:58 am

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Wow!! From day 5 to day 16 sounds extremely tightly packed: find a suburb you like, find an apartment in that suburb, have an application accepted, shop for furniture and move in .. all in 11 days, while you're working full time?

Although if your wife is not working, then maybe she can help with your timelines. But for me when I moved over and started work within a few days, even though I had done a HUGE amount of research, it took a lot longer than that to get settled.

It was more like first w/end visit several suburbs, sussing out transport and facilities etc in the areas that I had researched.

2nd weekend (and evenings during week 2/3) apartment hunting

3rd weekend (and evenings during week 4) furniture/appliance shopping

4th weekend - move in with the minimum needed mattress/fridge/washing machine and basic stuff while I waited on shipment to arrive

weekends 5 - 8: lots of shoppng/assembling, and unpacking shipment

So I would say it took closed to 2 months to get somewhat settled... but then if I had a wife to do all the shopping etc for me, well it would have been a lot easier !! Yup, it's a man's world ;)

Good luck :)


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