info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
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info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Hi everyone,
does anyone know the web address of where on the dimia site, i can find the details where it says full time is anything over 20hrs a week, this is to help a friend in oz.
much appreciated
Cheers
Trish
does anyone know the web address of where on the dimia site, i can find the details where it says full time is anything over 20hrs a week, this is to help a friend in oz.
much appreciated
Cheers
Trish
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by jimtrish
Hi everyone,
does anyone know the web address of where on the dimia site, i can find the details where it says full time is anything over 20hrs a week, this is to help a friend in oz.
much appreciated
Cheers
Trish
does anyone know the web address of where on the dimia site, i can find the details where it says full time is anything over 20hrs a week, this is to help a friend in oz.
much appreciated
Cheers
Trish
Note - this definition may not not necessarily apply to other visas (eg employer nomination).
Jeremy
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
It's in the Skilled Migration Booklet (booklet 6).
Note - this definition may not not necessarily apply to other visas (eg employer nomination).
Jeremy
Note - this definition may not not necessarily apply to other visas (eg employer nomination).
Jeremy
Thankyou
Trish
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by jimtrish
from what i gather, or have been informed by a migration agent it does apply for RSMS, my friend is already out there on the RSMS and wasnt aware of this.
Thankyou
Trish
Thankyou
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
There is normally no work experience requirement for RSMS. If your friend has an RSMS visa already, then why ask the question?
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I think were on about 2 different subjects here, shes wanting to know about full time hrs at work whereas you mean the work exp.
As far as im aware, as long as dimia have been informed that you will be working full time ( i.e over 20hrs a week) and for 2 years, they will be happy that you will be sticking to the rules of the visa?
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
There is normally no work experience requirement for RSMS. If your friend has an RSMS visa already, then why ask the question?
Jeremy
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Do you mean that a newly qualified nurse can apply for a RSMS visa without prior work experience in the UK as a qualified nurse?
Thanks, Cas
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Originally Posted by jimtrish
the visa says you have to have full time position for 2 yrs, in eyes of dimia this is over 20hrs a week, as was clarified by my agent initially. But my friend in oz didnt know this and is currently doing about 65hrs a fortnight.
I think were on about 2 different subjects here, shes wanting to know about full time hrs at work whereas you mean the work exp.
As far as im aware, as long as dimia have been informed that you will be working full time ( i.e over 20hrs a week) and for 2 years, they will be happy that you will be sticking to the rules of the visa?
I think were on about 2 different subjects here, shes wanting to know about full time hrs at work whereas you mean the work exp.
As far as im aware, as long as dimia have been informed that you will be working full time ( i.e over 20hrs a week) and for 2 years, they will be happy that you will be sticking to the rules of the visa?
For signing off an ENS/RSMS nomination DIMIA normally expect the position to be 'full time'. This is usually interpreted as 35 hours a week, in special circumstances they can go as low as 30 hours a week.
A job that will employ you for 20 hours a week is not normally acceptable for employer nomination.
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
You are confused between different rules for different visas.
For signing off an ENS/RSMS nomination DIMIA normally expect the position to be 'full time'. This is usually interpreted as 35 hours a week, in special circumstances they can go as low as 30 hours a week.
A job that will employ you for 20 hours a week is not normally acceptable for employer nomination.
Jeremy
For signing off an ENS/RSMS nomination DIMIA normally expect the position to be 'full time'. This is usually interpreted as 35 hours a week, in special circumstances they can go as low as 30 hours a week.
A job that will employ you for 20 hours a week is not normally acceptable for employer nomination.
Jeremy
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Originally Posted by carolinegorka
Sorry Jeremy, can I clarify something here for someone.
Do you mean that a newly qualified nurse can apply for a RSMS visa without prior work experience in the UK as a qualified nurse?
Thanks, Cas
Do you mean that a newly qualified nurse can apply for a RSMS visa without prior work experience in the UK as a qualified nurse?
Thanks, Cas
The criteria for RSMS is whether the job requires an Australian diploma, and whether the applicant has that. Work experience is not a criteria (unlike for regular ENS).
I believe that a newly qualified nurse could go straight onto an RSMS visa, but it would be prudent to make the application from offshore (just to be sure) and not go on a 457 visa in advance.
State/Territory registration is required (or eligiblity for such) however an ANCI skill assessment may not be specifically demanded. It does no harm to have one.
Jeremy
Last edited by JAJ; Nov 14th 2004 at 3:43 pm.
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
The criteria for RSMS is whether the job requires an Australian diploma, and whether the applicant has that. Work experience is not a criteria (unlike for regular ENS).
I believe that a newly qualified nurse could go straight onto an RSMS visa, but it would be prudent to make the application from offshore (just to be sure) and not go on a 457 visa in advance.
State/Territory registration is required (or eligiblity for such) however an ANCI skill assessment may not be specifically demanded.
Jeremy
I believe that a newly qualified nurse could go straight onto an RSMS visa, but it would be prudent to make the application from offshore (just to be sure) and not go on a 457 visa in advance.
State/Territory registration is required (or eligiblity for such) however an ANCI skill assessment may not be specifically demanded.
Jeremy
Cas
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by jimtrish
so have i been wrongly informed then? as i was told that i could work 21hrs a week and this would be seen as being full time in the eyes of dimia. also my friend in oz is on the rsms and works less than 35hrs a week.
It is not ok if it's a job offer you're hoping to use for RSMS.
I don't know how I can make myself any clearer than that.
As for your friend, with the greatest of respect I cannot comment on specific cases without knowing the full details. If she does 65 hours a fortnight that works out at 32.5 hours a week and if you read my post again you'll see I did say there was *some* flexibility in the 30-35 hour range.
Jeremy
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Originally Posted by carolinegorka
Thankyou, that will be good news for my friend
Cas
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by JAJ
It depends on what you're asking about. 21 hours a week is ok if you want to use the work experience for general skilled migration.
It is not ok if it's a job offer you're hoping to use for RSMS.
I don't know how I can make myself any clearer than that.
As for your friend, with the greatest of respect I cannot comment on specific cases without knowing the full details. If she does 65 hours a fortnight that works out at 32.5 hours a week and if you read my post again you'll see I did say there was *some* flexibility in the 30-35 hour range.
Jeremy
It is not ok if it's a job offer you're hoping to use for RSMS.
I don't know how I can make myself any clearer than that.
As for your friend, with the greatest of respect I cannot comment on specific cases without knowing the full details. If she does 65 hours a fortnight that works out at 32.5 hours a week and if you read my post again you'll see I did say there was *some* flexibility in the 30-35 hour range.
Jeremy
thanks for that.
Im sure she will read this.
ive been offered a job as im sure you remember, but i thought on rsms i could do 21hrs a week out there. mainly due to child comittments, maybe i could get them to accept 30.
bugger.
thanks anyway
Trish
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by jimtrish
ok jeremy,
thanks for that.
Im sure she will read this.
ive been offered a job as im sure you remember, but i thought on rsms i could do 21hrs a week out there. mainly due to child comittments, maybe i could get them to accept 30.
bugger.
thanks anyway
Trish
thanks for that.
Im sure she will read this.
ive been offered a job as im sure you remember, but i thought on rsms i could do 21hrs a week out there. mainly due to child comittments, maybe i could get them to accept 30.
bugger.
thanks anyway
Trish
Considering they were trying to get you to on 457 like myself - where you have to work full-time (which is for me) - I'd get this clarified
Cas x
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Re: info on what DIMIA say is full time hours
Originally Posted by jimtrish
ive been offered a job as im sure you remember, but i thought on rsms i could do 21hrs a week out there. mainly due to child comittments, maybe i could get them to accept 30.
You'd likely have a similar problem on a 457 although the exact structure of the rules is different (again, different visa, different rules).
Jeremy
Last edited by JAJ; Nov 14th 2004 at 4:04 pm.