fraser

Of course they wouldn't, they all enjoy a drink an acceptable drug that the government earn a fortune out of.

Ozceltic

I don't think there is any fear that he is innocent. He has admitted his crime and should hang for it.
I would volunteer to kick the chair from under him.

eatstatic

Too true, if alcohol and/or tobacco were recent additions to the chemical mind altering league of drugs they would definetely be class A.

The hypocrisy of Government and populations never cease to amaze me.

Heroin and cocaine are actually non lethal if perscribed in a pure unadulterated form (and the dose not exceeded, impossible to check when given gangster controlled street drugs)

My view is in for a penny, in for a pound, if Alcohol and tobacco are legal although they kill and rip peoples lifes apart, how can you justify the criminalisation of Cannabis, cocaine , ecstacy and yes, even heroin?

Whatever happened to personal choice and realizing the implications of your actions?

TraceyW

So why didn't his brother carry the drugs then if it was his debt?

I feel very sorry for the parents having to go through this. As a Mum I would be devastated to experience the death of a child though an accident, let alone intentional murder. My heart goes out to them.

However, I do have to say the phrase "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime" springs to mind. He must have known the consequences, he chose to take the gamble. VERY STUPID.

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Amen to that.

BillnLinz

He's not the first and mores the pity he wont be the last, they know the consequences, sorry...

hevs

He wasn't.....
Who's all? She was carrying marijuana, not A grade......
It is wrong in our eyes, but is the law of Singapore and the mules are more than aware of this. If you value your life then don't do it. Simple.....

And yeah if it were my kid i would probably feel much differently and the letter was totally innapropriate.

Be aware though that there is another troll among you

NedKelly

I think it shows that the Singaporeans have some compassion. If you read the letter they have offered extra visits up until his execution and have given the opportunity to her to arrange the funeral. That's more than he deserves but at least it gives the family some closure.

NedKelly

It's not Murder, it's EXECUTION. They should televise it as a warning to others.

Sorchar

How terrible for his mother and family. I know the heartbreak drugs can cause, but I can't condone the death penalty. How can someone decide which crime "deserves" death and which doesn't. Surely a crime is a crime. And how many of us can honestly say we've never commited a crime. What about using e-mail at work, or taking a stamp, or pen or whatever. It's still theft at the end of the day. Okay, so nobody dies as a result of taking some office stationery for their own use. Drink drivers, they know the consequences, but look how many people still have a pint or two, if not more, and get behind the wheel. Make prison terms appropriate for the result of the offence. And another thought, I fail to believe that someone wakes up one day and decided it's a good idea to become an addict. Sometimes life and circumstances drive people to drink and/or drugs. If you or your family are well heeled, you can get away with it. If death penalties were the answer to the problem then surely there wouldn't be these awful crimes.

Luke I Amyofath

I totally agree. Its not only the weak pathetic that end up as alcoholics or drug dependant. If you have worked with them you'll see a different side to the coin instead of the attitude of snubbing your nose at them thinking you are well above them. While its drugs that turn them into the scourge of society in many instances its society and the pressures that make them what they have become.

Vash the Stampede

So we agree on these points, then.

But why do you draw the line at capital punishment? I'd call that a necessary evil as well.

Wars are sometimes necessary to protect a nation's citizens. I'd say that capital punishment is sometimes necessary for the same reason.

And for those who argue that it could lead to the death of innocent people (well, war does too - but anyway...) I reply that in order to escape this problem, I would propose a system under which the death penalty was only permitted in cases where the guilt of the accused was demonstrated by DNA testing.

This rules out any possibility of executing the wrong person.

russmcp

Interesting point made there. I read a book by Ben Elton called High Society. Basically about the drugs issue in this country. While the comment I make is about the UK, could this work elsewhere?

Would the legalising of ALL drugs take away the majority of the power from the criminals who make the serious money out of drugs? What I mean is if drugs were legalised, would people who take drugs go to official government centres to get their drugs? Would they be taking drugs that had not been mixed with brick dust and all sorts of shit so were 'less' likely to kill the user? Would this way help users come off their habit and seek guideance at an earlier opportunity? Would it stop or reduce crime? Would it be better to bring this out in the open? Would this approach to drugs use in this country liberalise our attitude leading to further problems or would it help in our understanding of drugs? Would doing it this way provide a wealth of 'tax' contributions towards the government and help fund state services, for example the NHS.

Lots of questions there and no doubt something to chat about. For me, I think it really should be considered.

arkon

The problem I have with all this is that although he knew the penalty and still did the crime and should therefore be punnished, its not fair of society to then punish his mother who after all is innocent. By killing her child regardless of what he has done she is being punished also and how can that be right? Maybe the death penalty should only be carried out once the parents are dead from old age or whatever. (only just found this thread)

MrsDagboy

Holy jesus, someone shoot me please - I think I agree with arkon :scared: :scared: