arkon

Thats because they are all by and large the same, why would you want to drive 50k+ spend an hour each way in the car to see what?

Ok so they are not all identical but very near to it, and once you've been and seen a few you wouldn't want to go back.

jad n rich

Maybe millymog checked out adelaide as she is one of the many immigrants who cant get in unless they are prepared to live and work there. If she was destined for adelaide would there have been much point checking out Brisbane.

I agree australias a big place tho, although most of its not habitable, leaving most with a choice of less than a handful of large towns/cities.

Visit first and see more than one place if you have that choice.

MartinLuther

Tenby does have some nice beaches, as does the rest of Pembrokeshire.

MartinLuther

Fortunately they only "[rear] their heads at times", unlike the Aus-knockers who seem to be a constant presence.

arkon

Let's take each of here points shall we:

*many things: too hot in summer, they tore down 99% of the old buildings *and built crappy new ones, the people are standoffish (its the most *unfriendly place I have ever travelled to/lived in), they are arrogant, *superficial and materialistic.

Exactly true for most of the place, the only thing that changes is the amount of time it spends unberable


*It's parochial; they think it's the best possible place on earth to live (or *they are just trying so very hard to convince themselves cos they live *here). Personally I think they have an insecurity complex and infact it is the *most isolated city in the world. The fact is it's a sandpit on the edge of a *desert!

Well they are very parochial, and I thought the Americans were bad. I too think it's a case of when someone has an ugly baby and everyone goes ver the top to say how beutiful it is. People over compensate when things are bad to make themselves feel better. Doesn't actually make the place better.

*They go on an on and on and on about farkin AFL(aussie rules football: *more like synchronised field dancing) like no other state (not even victoria *where the game originated). We get this shit all year in the news and on *radio with only a brief respite during summer (if we are lucky)

Might not be AFL everywhere but replace AFL with sport in general and this ranks just so much higher than real news.

*Public transport is non existant at night or sundays unless u live near a train

Can't even get a taxi to come to my place as it's too far away at 20k, No amount of money can get them to come. No buses here in rural NSW and the trains are a joke.

*It gets so hot in summer u need air con in the house and car (mind u this *also applies to the likes of brisbane and other cities) so u can't really *exercise easily which is why u need to get up very early or go out at night *to exercise unless u can afford a gym membership.

Well you do need an aircon otherwise you get no quality of life indoors, try and sleep without one. For me during summer which lasts at least a third of the year in reality I'm a virtual prisoner of the house.

*Anywhere worth going that is outside of the immediate metro area you need *a car to get to cause public transport doesn't exist to get you there.

True

*The place lacks any feel of soul or character. HUGE social dislocation *problem that everyone just ignores. It's like "life's here Jim . but not as we *know it" !

Also true, The place feels dead, and more like a retirement home or village.

MikeStanton

"My" country? Remind me again, which aboriginal tribe do you belong to?

Oz may be 3 times the size of WE, however, it is also one of the most urbanised countries on Earth. Roughly 90% of the population lives in the main cities that hug the coast.

And a lot of Oz is a whole bunch of brown nothing.

Summarising a country on the basis of a visit to one city is dangerous, but, in Oz's case, it's reasonably accurate. Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane are all much of a muchness.

Only Melbourne and Sydney are a bit different (read 'more sophisticated').

And, yes, I have lived in all the main Oz states.

possoms

bloody hell didnt know you were still around

what are your views on Tasmania Mike??

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Amen to that.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......I was waiting for someone to say that. I'm a Welshman and grew up on that coastline. It's beautiful. Yet another nail in the OP's coffin.

tryinghard

I haven't read past the first thread on this post but after my second holiday to Perth I thought no way can I live there, I am happy in the UK.

Well after being back in the uk for all of 2 weeks I thought, hmmm maybe I was wrong, so I went straight back and had another long holiday. And then realised that I love OZ, I love everything about it. I just didn't give it a chance.

I get really annoyed some times as I constantly hear people saying " ahhh perth/oz is boring there isnt anything to do there" well I like my night clubs I love going out, loud music, loads of beers, clubs etc etc and perth has it all. you just need to know where to look, it also has some of the most friendly people I have ever had the pleasure to meet.

At the end of the day, some people will love it some will hate it, but I think part of this is because some people expect things on a plate when they arrive.

Just my 2p worth

sassenach

i agree when i get out of the cities i found i really enjoyed australia and really felt quiet at home but unfortunately the work is mainly centralised to the cities ,and thats the hard part if you dont like australian cities there is not a lot of choice all even australian youth struggle to gey full employment in smaller towns and they certainly have trouble finding a girl or boyfriend to settle down with as they have all naffed of to town to the bright lights and work opputunities

kiwichild

I have travelled to and lived in different parts of OZ including Perth long enough to make comments about the place. If you don't like it, feel free to post a counter argument rather than some smartarse comment like this one.

BTW How long have you lived here?

Vash the Stampede

Remind me again, of which countries is Queen Elizabeth the monarch? (Hint: one of them begins with a "A.") Are you seriously going to tell her that she's not the Queen of Australia? Let me know how that works out for you.

Remind me again, how many Britons are members of the tribes which originally inhabited the British isles? (Hint: I haven't seen any Celts around lately, and Saxons appear to be rather thin on the ground this year. I think I saw a Jute the other day, but I could be mistaken...)

Remind me again, which country was responsible for dispossessing the Aborigines in the first place by declaring Australia terra nullius? (Hint: it begins with "E.") And which country eventually overturned this judgement? (Hint: it begins with "A.")

BTW, FWIW I come from a family of English ex-pats; my father arrived in Australia during the 60s. I was born in Australia and I'm an Australian citizen (soon to have duel British/Australian citizenship.) Which makes Australia "my country" in every legitimate sense of the term.

So what?

It also has some of the largest areas of natural and untouched wilderness in the world, sixteen World Heritage sites, and a range of unique flora and fauna unrivalled by any other country (80% of Australia's plants and animals are found nowhere else in the world.)

Its climate ranges from temperate to tropical; arid to arctic. I know of only one other country which has such a diverse range, that that's the USA (which is, interestingly enough, the only other country of comparable size to Australia.)

Don't get me wrong; the UK is a pretty little place, in its quaint, old-fashioned way. I absolutely adore Devon, Dartmoor and Wales. Next year I'm taking the missus to Scotland, where we'll attend the Edinburgh Military Tattoo and visit the Isle of Skye. We're also planning to do Cornwall at some stage.

MikeStanton

What do you expect? It's so damn dull...


Fascinating if you're a botanist. Otherwise it's just consistently dull. As the US astronauts used to refer to it as "the boring brown country".

So, you're now shooting yourself in the foot by arguing that the Aborigines did have the land illegally taken from them.

I PMSL when Oz tries to take the moral high ground. This is the country that didn't even give Aborigines the vote until ~65 years after Federation and has been severely criticised by the UN for its treatment of asylum seekers...

Vash the Stampede

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