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How long to stay in OZ to retain PR ?

Old Oct 11th 2002, 3:22 pm
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Hi,

I know that you can validate your visa any time within 5 years but, after validating, are there any rules about having to stay in the country for a certain length of time to retain your PR status ?
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Originally posted by iancurtis:
Hi,

I know that you can validate your visa any time within 5 years but, after validating, are there any rules about having to stay in the country for a certain length of time to retain your PR status ?
Read the returning resident visa section. PR means permanent (for skilled - not always for other categories) ie you can stay in Aus indefinitely. But you may not leave Aus and return with PR status unless you hold a valid RRV.
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    >On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 15:22:46 +0000, iancurtis wrote:
    >Hi,
    >I know that you can validate your visa any time within 5 years

You need to validate before the first entry dats which is within the
first 12 months (and maybe less) from visa grant.

but,
    >after validating, are there any rules about having to stay in the
    >country for a certain length of time to retain your PR status ?

You need 2 years in the first 5 resident in Australia to easily
qualify for a Resident Return Visa, and if you want to travel and
re-enter Australia as a PR you'll need one of these after the 5 years
is up.

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Old Oct 12th 2002, 9:20 am
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OK, I've never heard of an RRV before. Does this mean that if we validate before the given entry date and then don't move over until near the end of the 5 years then it's hard to get an RRV ?
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No, it's just that you must live in Oz for at last 2 years before you are eligible for a RRV. If you move to Oz say 4 years (let's call this the start of Year 5) after your initial permanent residency visa is granted you will have to wait until the end of Year 6 until you are eligible for a RRV, which is in effect a 5 year extension of your initial permanent visa.

As your initial permanent residency visa will expire at the end of Year 5 you will have the whole of year 5 during which you will not be able to re-enter Australia if you want to travel overseas.

This isn't an issue if you don't want/have to travel outside Australia in Year 5, but could be an issue if you have a family emergency (say) outside Oz during that year.

Does this help?



Originally posted by iancurtis:
OK, I've never heard of an RRV before. Does this mean that if we validate before the given entry date and then don't move over until near the end of the 5 years then it's hard to get an RRV ?
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Originally posted by iancurtis:
OK, I've never heard of an RRV before. Does this mean that if we validate before the given entry date and then don't move over until near the end of the 5 years then it's hard to get an RRV ?
Requirements that need to be met for an RRV are:
http://www.immi.gov.au/faq/resident/index.htm#are


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Jeremy explains it quite clearly here as well:

http://australianz.topcities.com/permanent.htm


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    >On Sat, 12 Oct 2002 09:39:15 +0000, Alan Collett wrote:
    >No, it's just that you must live in Oz for at last 2 years before you
    >are eligible for a RRV. If you move to Oz say 4 years (let's call this
    >the start of Year 5) after your initial permanent residency visa is
    >granted you will have to wait until the end of Year 6 until you are
    >eligible for a RRV, which is in effect a 5 year extension of your
    >initial permanent visa.

Actually they might be able to get an RRV at the end of year 5, bt
would have to show business, cultural, employment or personal ties to
Australia. Maybe possible if they've been living there a year, but
they would have to work on their application and put a good case
together. If they had not moved to Australia during the 5 year period
it would be almost impossible.


    >As your initial permanent residency visa will expire at the end of Year
    >5 you will have the whole of year 5 during which you will not be able to
    >re-enter Australia if you want to travel overseas.

You must mean year 6.
Not even to NZ for a few days.


    >This isn't an issue if you don't want/have to travel outside Australia
    >in Year 5, but could be an issue if you have a family emergency (say)
    >outside Oz during that year.

Although a 3 month RRV might be granted in such circumstances.

Simple thing is to make sure you've 2 years residence in Australia
before the initial 5 year period is up.

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    >Does this help?
    >Originally posted by iancurtis:
    >OK, I've never heard of an RRV before. Does this mean that if we
    >validate before the given entry date and then don't move over until near
    >the end of the 5 years then it's hard to get an RRV ?
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Old Oct 20th 2002, 10:06 am
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Hi Jeremy,

    > You need to validate before the first entry dats which is within the
    > first 12 months (and maybe less) from visa grant.

we have entered australia on a PR and have validated our visas (me +
family) during a work+holiday trip (it consulting) for 4 months.

    > but,
    > >after validating, are there any rules about having to stay in the
    > >country for a certain length of time to retain your PR status ?
    > You need 2 years in the first 5 resident in Australia to easily
    > qualify for a Resident Return Visa, and if you want to travel and
    > re-enter Australia as a PR you'll need one of these after the 5 years
    > is up.

We would want to stay here but currently the job situation for my
skill-set is not to good. I have an offer to move to the us for 3
years which I would want to take and return afterwards spending my
money here ;-)

As far as I understand it will be not a problem with our PR status in
other words: I won't lose the PR if I would come back in 3 years to
live here?


Thanks for your support

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Default Re: How long to stay in OZ to retain PR ?

Originally posted by Mr. Sap:
As far as I understand it will be not a problem with our PR status in other words: I won't lose the PR if I would come back in 3 years to live here?
You will not lose your PR status if you re-enter Australia before the expiration of your migrant visa, supposing you have not obtained any other visas (such as an RRV).

Read Jeremy's write up here:
http://australianz.topcities.com/permanent.htm


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