holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
#16
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Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
An employer can request an employee work on public holidays, as long as the request as reasonable based on certain criteria. I would say that you're fortunate you only work on a couple of public holidays - I've had to work on more than that this year.
#17
Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
If you think you are being treated unfairly, then give them a call and they will be able to help you
With the Long Service Leave - in the construction industry there is a company who handles LSL for employees that may work on different construction sites over the period of time they accrue it. Might be worth looking if there's something similar with IT. Here's a link to the SA one, so you can see what I mean https://www.cbserv.com.au/home/
#18
Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
As far as I'm concerned LSL is a con by which employers manage to claim they are giving you a benefit which they know full well they'll never have to pay out.
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Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
The IT industry however has never been unionised - hence the widespread exploitation of workers and It being rapid fast-track to workplace misery
<perhaps I'm just having a bad week? >
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/nat...itlements.aspx
Doesnt apply in QLD - and even if it does theres an awful lot of that word 'reasonable'. It not clear whether 20 hours unpaid overtime a week and no regard for publc holidays or not could be covered by 'reasonable' or not.
Last edited by DadAgain; Oct 3rd 2010 at 2:19 am.
#20
Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
..but of no benefit whatsoever to anyone in the IT industry. My longest stint with any employer is 4 years and at least 4 of my employers over the last 10 years are no longer in business.
As far as I'm concerned LSL is a con by which employers manage to claim they are giving you a benefit which they know full well they'll never have to pay out.
As far as I'm concerned LSL is a con by which employers manage to claim they are giving you a benefit which they know full well they'll never have to pay out.
#21
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Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
Construction industry has a long history of being unionised - and therefore are a number of provision for workers rights are in place and entitlements taken seriously.
The IT industry however has never been unionised - hence the widespread exploitation of workers and It being rapid fast-track to workplace misery
<perhaps I'm just having a bad week? >
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/nat...itlements.aspx
Doesnt apply in QLD - and even if it does theres an awful lot of that word 'reasonable'. It not clear whether 20 hours unpaid overtime a week and no regard for publc holidays or not could be covered by 'reasonable' or not.
The IT industry however has never been unionised - hence the widespread exploitation of workers and It being rapid fast-track to workplace misery
<perhaps I'm just having a bad week? >
http://www.fairwork.gov.au/leave/nat...itlements.aspx
Doesnt apply in QLD - and even if it does theres an awful lot of that word 'reasonable'. It not clear whether 20 hours unpaid overtime a week and no regard for publc holidays or not could be covered by 'reasonable' or not.
Basically you have to make the decision if you want to continually do the boss's bidding or actually enforce your own rights. This is what most people don't bother to do, enforce their own rights.
I have had many wars with my employers over the years, but have always won as I was enforcing my own legal rights, rather than being a submissive bitch.
Of course the side effect is you make enemies with the boss, but I never plan on sticking around for long anyway.
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Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
..but of no benefit whatsoever to anyone in the IT industry. My longest stint with any employer is 4 years and at least 4 of my employers over the last 10 years are no longer in business.
As far as I'm concerned LSL is a con by which employers manage to claim they are giving you a benefit which they know full well they'll never have to pay out.
As far as I'm concerned LSL is a con by which employers manage to claim they are giving you a benefit which they know full well they'll never have to pay out.
#23
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Re: holiday entitlements (moved from Immigration)
The only solution in my case is to move on... I've raised the issue many times and have had broad agreement from my colleagues and my direct manager (who is subject to the same pain-in-the-ass conditions) that our current arrangements are unfair but that they will NOT be changed in anyway at least until the director concerned retired or dies.