NedKelly

It took me and I am sure a lot of other people on this board a lot of time, money, sweat, worry and stress to get to this country. Perhaps I should have taken the easy route and come here as a tourist and then claimed asylum.

http://www.optusnet.com.au/news/stor...ic/1314151.inp

bondipom

As per an Australian trying to claim assylum in the UK you would be laughed out of immigration and back onto the plane.

NedKelly

I can't imagine why any Australian would want to claim asylum in the UK. The state benefits are just as good in Australia and you don't have to put up with the bloody weather.

jayr

In which country are you facing persecution for your religious or political beliefs? I doubt you know the meanings of the word worry and stress

Stormz

Seems strange. He must have alot of money to be able to get to Aus from Russia. Makes me very suspicious. Like alot of `asylum` seekers in the UK, they come from half-way around the world and through Italy/France/Holland/Germany/Spain/Portugal/Timbuktu etc to get here.... kinda takes the piss really. If I was a genuine refugee or asylum seeker I`d be bloody happy to have made it across the border into ANY country that meant me and my family were safe... wouldn`t care what country that was.

But no, they look at their benefit/lifestyle asylum travel brochures and head for the one they can get the most out of.

I`m all for genuine asylum seekers btw, but not financial asylum seekers.

Larissa

I think it's a great ruling and a victory for human rights. What we go through for visa applications is *nothing* in comparison to what some of these poor guys go through. Last week I met some lovely Sudanese guys and I found their stories heartbreaking. I'd much rather share a drink and some tucker with some those guys than someone who thinks he's better than someone else purely because he's been able to buy his way into the country.
Maybe some of you should go live with Sharia law.

bondipom

Per head of population the UK accepts far less than some of the nations you list. You sound like a Daily Mail reader or is it the Express.

seang

Really depends . If Australia has a quota for the number of Asylum seekers it takes in then it is awhole different ball game.
Consider - in this case the applicant had an alternative country to go to. What if there is a quota and someone comes along that has no other country willing to take them in- then perhaps it may be a better situation to send the person to the alternative country and take in the person with no other alternative.

Just a senario to consider

Stormz

The UK is also a far smaller country, with generally a larger population, which means far less housing.

All the newspapers are crap really, but yeah I read the express every month or so. I know what you mean though.... pinch of salt and all that.

bondipom

Not sure how you can set quotas for assylum seekers when there is a legal obligation to consider the cases. Refugees are another matter. Australia can decide the numbers it will accept.

seang

True (I presume)
However it does strike me as alittle strange that this case had an alternative but seemed to really want to pick the most ideal of options. Doubt many would be in that situation.

The article in the SMH seems to have more context than the original article.

bondipom

An awkward situation. Israel was willing to accept them because they were Jewish, not because they were Israeli. Quite a unusual situation. If they had Israeli citizenship I think the outcome would be different. Would you want to live in Israel to have you children conscripted into a bloody conflict?

seang

No I wouldnt and hopefully never have such a choice to make.
You have raised an interesting point. Even if a precident is not set it could have ramifications - many could now apply (and possibly do) claiming pacifist beliefs and not wishing to undertake compulsary military service.

Maybe interesting as well that :

"But the RRT affirmed the Immigration Department's decision to refuse to grant them protection visas in Australia as Israel was a country in which they would have effective protection under Israel's Law of Return."

Wonder if the minister will get involved when she returns?

jc_hoops

Get real, bet you live in a nice multi culture area......NOT

I have seen West London become a @&*" hole, every man and his dog are coming here. Our schools are over run with non-speaking English and crime out of control, all because we have had a population increase that the local community cannot sustain and integrate with in so short a time.

It is creating major barriers, problems, that will get worst, not better.

All thanks to that scum bag Blair......

NedKelly

I was facing persecution in the UK because I am white and therefore a second class citizen in my own country. Many UK laws now give preferential treatment to ethnic minorities. I was facing persecution because I am a Christian. As an example, my son's school cancelled the nativity play because it might offend Muslims and it now no longer has a morning assembly where hymns were sung. As far as politics is concerned I was persecuted by the Government because I owned my own house, a few shares and some investment property, so I am considered to be a filthy rich property owning enemy of the people who should rightly be targeted by Gordon Browns 60 stealth taxes.